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* Yet, the Magen Avraham 651:25 explains that the opinion of the Rambam is that if one lit the candles and only later on found more candles he should make another bracha. Eliyah Raba 672:7 agrees. Pri Megadim A”A 672:3 questions it. Machasit HaShekel 676 asks why one would have to recite a new bracha if one already fulfilled the mitzvah with the first candle. However, Birkei Yosef 671:3 explains that the Rambam just meant that if one is going to light in another house and didn't have it in mind originally, one must recite another bracha. This is also suggested by the Rambam in Sh”t Pear Hadur 11. Maamer Mordechai 676:1, Olot [[Shabbat]] 676:1, and Sh”t Pri HaAretz 3:2 agree with this explanation. Shaarei [[Teshuva]] 671:2, Sadeh HaAretz 3:42, Torat HaMoadim [[Chanukah]] 1:10, and Chazon Ovadiah (Mitzvat Hadlaka footnote 7, pg 30) concur.  
* Yet, the Magen Avraham 651:25 explains that the opinion of the Rambam is that if one lit the candles and only later on found more candles he should make another bracha. Eliyah Raba 672:7 agrees. Pri Megadim A”A 672:3 questions it. Machasit HaShekel 676 asks why one would have to recite a new bracha if one already fulfilled the mitzvah with the first candle. However, Birkei Yosef 671:3 explains that the Rambam just meant that if one is going to light in another house and didn't have it in mind originally, one must recite another bracha. This is also suggested by the Rambam in Sh”t Pear Hadur 11. Maamer Mordechai 676:1, Olot [[Shabbat]] 676:1, and Sh”t Pri HaAretz 3:2 agree with this explanation. Shaarei [[Teshuva]] 671:2, Sadeh HaAretz 3:42, Torat HaMoadim [[Chanukah]] 1:10, and Chazon Ovadiah (Mitzvat Hadlaka footnote 7, pg 30) concur.  
* The above pertains to someone who lit one candle knowing the correct night but simply lit the wrong number of candles. Similarly, if one lit the wrong number of candles because one thought that it was another night, the Pri [[Chadash]] says one adds a candle without a bracha. Chaye Adam 154:29, Sh”t Yehuda Yaleh Assad O”C 205, Sh”t Nachlat Binyamin 133 s.v. Hen Emet, Katav Sofer O”C 135(3), Kol Sinai (Kislev 5725), Kaf Hachaim 672:20, and Torat HaMoadim [[Chanukah]] 1:10 agree. However, Erech HaShulchan 672:7 and Rabbi Akiva Eiger (Mehudra Tanina 13) write that one makes a bracha in such a case. See Sedei Chemed ([[Chanukah]] 18), Ben Ish Chai (Vayeshev 10), Sh”t Meishev Devarim O”C 153, Sh”t Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe O”C 190 pg 329a, and Sh”t Hitorerut [[Teshuva]] 1:103e. </ref>
* The above pertains to someone who lit one candle knowing the correct night but simply lit the wrong number of candles. Similarly, if one lit the wrong number of candles because one thought that it was another night, the Pri [[Chadash]] says one adds a candle without a bracha. Chaye Adam 154:29, Sh”t Yehuda Yaleh Assad O”C 205, Sh”t Nachlat Binyamin 133 s.v. Hen Emet, Katav Sofer O”C 135(3), Kol Sinai (Kislev 5725), Kaf Hachaim 672:20, and Torat HaMoadim [[Chanukah]] 1:10 agree. However, Erech HaShulchan 672:7 and Rabbi Akiva Eiger (Mehudra Tanina 13) write that one makes a bracha in such a case. See Sedei Chemed ([[Chanukah]] 18), Ben Ish Chai (Vayeshev 10), Sh”t Meishev Devarim O”C 153, Sh”t Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe O”C 190 pg 329a, and Sh”t Hitorerut [[Teshuva]] 1:103e. </ref>
# If someone has enough oil for all the nights with hiddur, and his friend doesn’t have anything, one should give his friend enough for the basic requirement. However if your friend is a household member in a house that already has one set of candles, one doesn’t need to give up his hiddur for his friend’s hiddur. <ref> Magan Avraham 671:1 writes that it’s better that one allow his friend to do the basic mitzvah and forfeit his hiddur mitzvah. Eliyah Raba 671:3 limits this to where the friend isn’t a household member, but in a case where the friend is a household member of a house that already has one set of candle and is just lighting his own menorah (as per Minhag Ashkenazim) for hiddur, one shouldn’t give up from his hiddur mitzvah for your friend’s hiddur. Machsit HaShekel 671:1, Pri Megadim A”A 671:1, Chaye Adam 154:25, Mishna Brurah 671:6, and Kaf Hachaim 671:9 agree. Chemed Moshe argues on the Magan Avraham that one doesn’t need to give for someone else’s mitzvah. Similarly, Torat Hamoadim ([[Chanukah]] pg 30-31) and Sh”t Machneh Chaim Kama (O”C 29, Y”D 3:55 pg 41a) argue that the Magan Avraham didn’t mean it as an obligation but as a chesed. However, Sh”t Mechtam Ledavid O”C 6 and Sh”t Lev Chaim (1:91 pg 126d) understand the Magan Avraham that it is an obligation. Chazon Ovadyah (Chelek 1 Vol 2 [[Siman 47]]) concludes that one must give the candles. Nonetheless Torat HaMoadim(Chazon Ovadiah’s son) argues that Chazon Ovadiah just meant it is preferable as a chesed. </ref>
# If someone has enough oil to light the correct number of candles every night and his friend doesn’t have anything, he should give his friend enough so that he can fulfill his basic requirement. However, if your friend lives in a house that already is lighting one set of candles, one doesn't need to give up one's added candles in order for your friend to light extra candles.<ref> Magen Avraham 671:1 writes that it is better to fulfill one's basic obligation and also enable one's friend to do the basic mitzvah rather than just fulfill the mitzvah oneself in an enhanced fashion. Eliyah Raba 671:3 adds that if one's friend lives in a house that already has one set of candle and can fulfill his obligation with that lighting one shouldn’t give up from your enhanced mitzvah in order for your friend to enhance his mitzvah. Machsit HaShekel 671:1, Pri Megadim A”A 671:1, Chaye Adam 154:25, Mishna Brurah 671:6, and Kaf Hachaim 671:9 agree.  
# Someone who doesn’t have money for both [[Shabbat]] candles (the minimum is one candle) and [[Chanukah]] candles (the minimum is one candle) should buy [[Shabbat]] Candles, however nowadays one can fulfill [[Shabbat]] candles with electric lights and so one who has electric lights should buy Canuka candles. <ref> [[Shabbat]] 23b Rava says that [[Shabbat]] candles which are for Shalom bayit take precedence over [[Chanukah]] candles, but [[Chanukah]] candles which are for Pirsumei nisa (publicizing the miracle) take precedence over [[kiddish]]. Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:14), Tur and S”A 678 agree. Or Zaruh 2:326 implies this is only someone who only has one candle but someone with two would light one for [[Shabbos]] and one for [[Chanukah]]. Magan Avraham 678:1, Eliyah Raba 678:1, and Mishna Brurah 678:1 agree. Tur 296, Rama 296:5 hold [[Chanukah]] candles take precedence over [[Havdalah]]. The reason that [[Chanukah]] precedes [[kiddish]] is because [[kiddish]] can be done on bread, but if one doesn’t have wine or bread then bread precedes [[Chanukah]] candles because [[kiddish]] is a Deoritta (according to many Rishonim) and even if it’s derabanan (Ramam) still bread takes precedence (either because the Rambam would agree [[kiddish]] is deoraitta if one doesn’t make it even on bread or that [[kiddish]] is a Derabanan learned out of a pasuk), see Torat Moed [[Chanukah]] pg 34-6). </ref>
* Chemed Moshe argues on the Magen Avraham that one doesn’t need to give up anything in order to enable someone else to fulfill the mitzvah. Similarly, Torat Hamoadim ([[Chanukah]] pg 30-31) and Sh”t Machneh Chaim Kama (O”C 29, Y”D 3:55 pg 41a) argue that the Magen Avraham didn’t mean it as an obligation but as a kind activity. However, Sh”t Mechtam Ledavid O”C 6 and Sh”t Lev Chaim (1:91 pg 126d) understand the Magen Avraham that it is an obligation. Chazon Ovadyah (Chelek 1 Vol 2 [[Siman 47]]) concludes that one must give the candles. Nonetheless, Torat HaMoadim (Chazon Ovadiah’s son) argues that Chazon Ovadiah just meant it is preferable as a chesed. </ref>
# Someone who doesn’t have money for both [[Chanukah]] candles and wine for [[kiddish]] or [[Havdalah]] should buy [[Chanukah]] candles and make [[kiddish]] on bread and make [[Havdalah]] in [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. <ref> see previous footnote </ref>
# Someone who doesn’t have money for both [[Shabbat]] candles (the minimum is one candle) and [[Chanukah]] candles (the minimum is one candle) should buy [[Shabbat]] Candles. Some say that nowadays one can fulfill [[Shabbat]] candles with electric lights and so one who has electric lights should buy Canuka candles. <ref> [[Shabbat]] 23b Rava says that [[Shabbat]] candles which are for Shalom bayit take precedence over [[Chanukah]] candles, but [[Chanukah]] candles which are for Pirsumei nisa (publicizing the miracle) take precedence over [[kiddish]]. Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:14), Tur and S”A 678 agree. Or Zaruh 2:326 implies this is only someone who only has one candle but someone with two would light one for [[Shabbos]] and one for [[Chanukah]]. Magen Avraham 678:1, Eliyah Raba 678:1, and Mishna Brurah 678:1 agree. </ref>
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# Someone who doesn’t have money for both [[Chanukah]] candles and wine for [[kiddish]] should buy [[Chanukah]] candles and make [[kiddish]] on bread. <ref> The reason that [[Chanukah]] precedes [[kiddish]] is because [[kiddish]] can be recited over bread, but if one doesn’t have wine or bread then bread precedes [[Chanukah]] candles because [[kiddish]] is a biblical obligation according to many Rishonim and Chanuka candles are only a rabbinic obligation. </ref>
# [[Lighting Chanuka Candles]]
# Someone who doesn’t have money for both [[Chanukah]] candles and wine for [[Havdalah]] should buy [[Chanukah]] candles and make [[Havdalah]] in [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. <ref> Tur 296 and Rama 296:5 hold the [[Chanukah]] candles take precedence over [[Havdalah]]. </ref>
 
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