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* The Agudah (Pesachim 113b) writes that the minhag is based on the opinion of the Bahag so as not to forget that the night of the 41st and 81st day the couple is forbidden to each other, therefore, they didn't go to mikveh beforehand. The Bach 194:3 accepts this approach. Badei Hashulchan 194:16 explains that according to this explanation she may not go to mikveh before the night of the 42nd and 82nd. | * The Agudah (Pesachim 113b) writes that the minhag is based on the opinion of the Bahag so as not to forget that the night of the 41st and 81st day the couple is forbidden to each other, therefore, they didn't go to mikveh beforehand. The Bach 194:3 accepts this approach. Badei Hashulchan 194:16 explains that according to this explanation she may not go to mikveh before the night of the 42nd and 82nd. | ||
* The Darkei Moshe 194:3 writes that the minhag is based on the opinion of Rabbenu Tam that whether or not she sees during the days of tumah they can't be counted for shiva nekiyim. Furthermore, as long as she hasn't gone to mikveh the days of yemey tohar also can't count for shiva nekiyim. According to Rabbenu Tam it is necessary to go to the mikveh twice, once to remove the tumah of birth and another to remove the tumah of zavah after shiva nekiyim. Since we don't go to mikveh twice for this purpose the minhag was to refrain from going to mikveh for 40 days for a boy and 80 days for a girl. In fact, according to this reason the minhag should be to go to the mikveh twice, but it is enough to be strict for the Rabbenu Tam in the main days of tumah and tahara. The Darkei Moshe concludes that it seems that according to this reason they should be strict to start the shiva nekiyim only after the 40 or 80 days. * Halacha: The Rama 194:1 writes that in a place where they have the minhag one shouldn't break the minhag, however, in places were they don't there's no reason to be strict. While the Bach 194:3 holds that it is forbidden to break this minhag in a place where they have it and someone who does will be punished, the Taz 194:3 argues that there's no good reason for the minhag, many people don't keep it, and there's no punishment for breaking the minhag. Badei Hashulchan 194:18 writes that many poskim rejected the minhag and so one shouldn't be strict unless one's parents were and even in such a case if a person's yetzer hara is great one can be lenient. | * The Darkei Moshe 194:3 writes that the minhag is based on the opinion of Rabbenu Tam that whether or not she sees during the days of tumah they can't be counted for shiva nekiyim. Furthermore, as long as she hasn't gone to mikveh the days of yemey tohar also can't count for shiva nekiyim. According to Rabbenu Tam it is necessary to go to the mikveh twice, once to remove the tumah of birth and another to remove the tumah of zavah after shiva nekiyim. Since we don't go to mikveh twice for this purpose the minhag was to refrain from going to mikveh for 40 days for a boy and 80 days for a girl. In fact, according to this reason the minhag should be to go to the mikveh twice, but it is enough to be strict for the Rabbenu Tam in the main days of tumah and tahara. The Darkei Moshe concludes that it seems that according to this reason they should be strict to start the shiva nekiyim only after the 40 or 80 days. * Halacha: The Rama 194:1 writes that in a place where they have the minhag one shouldn't break the minhag, however, in places were they don't there's no reason to be strict. While the Bach 194:3 holds that it is forbidden to break this minhag in a place where they have it and someone who does will be punished, the Taz 194:3 argues that there's no good reason for the minhag, many people don't keep it, and there's no punishment for breaking the minhag. Badei Hashulchan 194:18 writes that many poskim rejected the minhag and so one shouldn't be strict unless one's parents were and even in such a case if a person's yetzer hara is great one can be lenient. | ||
Mishmeret Hatahara v. 2 p. 155 (Rabbi Moshe Karp, Kriyat Sefer) writes that today the minhag in his areas is to be lenient.</ref> Sephardim do not have to follow this minhag and even if they did they can do a hatarat nedarim.<ref>Taharat Habayit (v. 2 p. 28) shows that the primary minhag of Sephardim is to be lenient like Shulchan Aruch. He cites numerous sources to show that the poskim held that this minhag was weak and possibly based on the Karaites as the Rambam writes. Therefore, the Bet Yosef's opinion was unless we know that it was based on a practice to be strict on hilchot niddah, we can assume that it was a practice based on a mistake. In Baghdad, Egypt, and Tunisia the minhag was to be lenient. Even for Morocco and India where there was a minhag to be strict, Rav Ovadia holds that they don't need to uphold this minhag since we don't know that it began with rabbinic approvals and was completely accepted. Additionally even the Ben Ish Chai (Rav Paalim YD 2:23) writes that it wasn't an accepted minhag in Baghdad and even someone who has this minhag can nullify it with hatarat nedarim.</ref> | Mishmeret Hatahara v. 2 p. 155 (Rabbi Moshe Karp, Kriyat Sefer) writes that today the minhag in his areas is to be lenient.</ref> Sephardim do not have to follow this minhag and even if they did they can do a hatarat nedarim.<ref>Taharat Habayit (v. 2 p. 28) shows that the primary minhag of Sephardim is to be lenient like Shulchan Aruch. He cites numerous sources to show that the poskim held that this minhag was weak and possibly based on the Karaites as the Rambam writes. Therefore, the Bet Yosef's opinion was unless we know that it was based on a practice to be strict on hilchot niddah, we can assume that it was a practice based on a mistake. In Baghdad, Egypt, and Tunisia the minhag was to be lenient. Even for Morocco and India where there was a minhag to be strict, Rav Ovadia holds that they don't need to uphold this minhag since we don't know that it began with rabbinic approvals and was completely accepted. Additionally even the Ben Ish Chai (Rav Paalim YD 2:23) writes that it wasn't an accepted minhag in Baghdad and even someone who has this minhag can nullify it with hatarat nedarim. Rabbi Lehbar (Magen Avot YD p. 136) is lenient for Moroccans not to wait 40 or 80 days.</ref> | ||
# If the woman already went to the mikveh and she is tahor, even though the gemara prohibits them to one another on the night of the 41st day for a baby boy and the 81st for a baby girl, today this prohibition doesn't apply since we are strict on dam tohar.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 113b writes that a woman is forbidden to her husband the night of the 41st for a baby boy and 81st for a girl after having a baby. The Rashbam explains that since the Torah permits a couple to one another even if there is blood during the days of yemey tohar they forget when that period ends and be lenient about niddah blood even afterwards. Therefore, the rabbis said that they should refrain from one another the night of the end of that period so that they remember that there's a difference before and after. The Rosh 3:5 writes that this restriction only applies to those who are lenient about blood during yemey tohar. The Raavad [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=61 (End of Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 63)] agrees and rejects the opinion of the Bahag that this night is automatically forbidden like a veset. Taz 194:2 writes that since we are all strict about blood during yemey tohar today this halacha doesn't apply to us anymore and so Shulchan Aruch left it out. Badei Hashulchan 194:15 agrees but adds that a person who wants to be strict will be blessed.</ref> | # If the woman already went to the mikveh and she is tahor, even though the gemara prohibits them to one another on the night of the 41st day for a baby boy and the 81st for a baby girl, today this prohibition doesn't apply since we are strict on dam tohar.<ref>The Gemara Pesachim 113b writes that a woman is forbidden to her husband the night of the 41st for a baby boy and 81st for a girl after having a baby. The Rashbam explains that since the Torah permits a couple to one another even if there is blood during the days of yemey tohar they forget when that period ends and be lenient about niddah blood even afterwards. Therefore, the rabbis said that they should refrain from one another the night of the end of that period so that they remember that there's a difference before and after. The Rosh 3:5 writes that this restriction only applies to those who are lenient about blood during yemey tohar. The Raavad [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=61 (End of Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 63)] agrees and rejects the opinion of the Bahag that this night is automatically forbidden like a veset. Taz 194:2 writes that since we are all strict about blood during yemey tohar today this halacha doesn't apply to us anymore and so Shulchan Aruch left it out. Badei Hashulchan 194:15 agrees but adds that a person who wants to be strict will be blessed.</ref> | ||
# If the amniotic sac comes out after a healthy birth up to 23 days after the birth (not including the day of the sac coming out) it isn't considered another birth, however, she is tameh as a result of it for 7 days. However, if it came out later it is considered another birth and she is tameh 14 days like she gave birth to a girl.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 194:4, Badei Hashulchan 194:50</ref> | # If the amniotic sac comes out after a healthy birth up to 23 days after the birth (not including the day of the sac coming out) it isn't considered another birth, however, she is tameh as a result of it for 7 days. However, if it came out later it is considered another birth and she is tameh 14 days like she gave birth to a girl.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 194:4, Badei Hashulchan 194:50</ref> | ||
