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# One need not train his children to fast, even at the age of 12 for boys or eleven for girls.<ref> Mishna Brurah 550:5 and Beiur Halacha "hakol" Yalkut Yosef Dinei [[Chinuch]] Katan page 239 and Moadim page 530, Eliya Rabbah 550:7, Chanoch Lanaar 21:footnote 9, Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 398:3. Mishna Brurah 550:5 based on Magen Avraham 550:2 and Chayei Adam 133:6 say that when children do not fast they should only eat the amount of food they need but Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 398:footnote 10 says that this is not the custom. </ref> Although many boys have the custom to fast three fasts before they become bar-mitzvah, but this custom has no source.<ref> Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 399:footnote 11. </ref> | # One need not train his children to fast, even at the age of 12 for boys or eleven for girls.<ref> Mishna Brurah 550:5 and Beiur Halacha "hakol" Yalkut Yosef Dinei [[Chinuch]] Katan page 239 and Moadim page 530, Eliya Rabbah 550:7, Chanoch Lanaar 21:footnote 9, Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 398:3. Mishna Brurah 550:5 based on Magen Avraham 550:2 and Chayei Adam 133:6 say that when children do not fast they should only eat the amount of food they need but Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 398:footnote 10 says that this is not the custom. </ref> Although many boys have the custom to fast three fasts before they become bar-mitzvah, but this custom has no source.<ref> Halichot Shlomo Moadim 2:page 399:footnote 11. </ref> | ||
===Baalei Simcha=== | ===Baalei Simcha=== | ||
# A bride and groom within the seven days of his wedding, the father of a baby boy, a sandak, and a mohel must fast on these four fasts unless the fast was postponed because it originally fell out on [[shabbat|Shabbat]], in which case they are all exempt from all these fasts and should eat after mid-day.<ref> Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 121:7, Mishna Brurah 559:35, Yabia Omer 1:34:11, 5:40, Rivevot Efraim 6:290, Halacha Lmaaseh (Chanuka Upurim | # A bride and groom within the seven days of his wedding, the father of a baby boy, a sandak, and a mohel must fast on these four fasts unless the fast was postponed because it originally fell out on [[shabbat|Shabbat]], in which case they are all exempt from all these fasts and should eat after mid-day.<ref> Magen Avraham 550:6, Eliya Rabba 559:25, Chida in Birkei Yosef 549:2, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 121:7, Aruch Hashulchan 550:2, Mishna Brurah 559:35 (and 550:12), Kaf Hachaim 549:9, Yabia Omer 1:34:11, 5:40, Rivevot Efraim 6:290, Halacha Lmaaseh (Chanuka Upurim of Chabad Halacha 12:8), Rav Yehuda Ayash (cited by Chida), Pri Haadama (cited by Kaf Hachaim), and Ketunot Yosef (cited by Kaf Hachaim). Rav Ovadia Yosef writes in Yabia Omer 27:10 that this is true even of tzom gedalia, even though some rishonim say the tragedy occurred on [[Rosh Hashana]] it is not considered a postponed fast unless it actually fell out on [[Shabbat]]. Rivevot Efraim cites Maaseh Eliyahu who quotes Rabbi Abdullah Some'ach who said that a chatan does not have to fast asara b'tevet if he doesn't want to if he's still within his days of sheva brachot. R' Eliyahu Mani in Maaseh Eliyahu concludes that he should fast, which is also the conclusion of Rivevot Efraim. Bet Dovid cited by Kaf Hachaim holds that the chatan is exempt, but Kaf Hachaim concludes from the achronim that this is not the halacha. There is [https://jewishvues.com/articles/fasting-during-sheva-brachos/ some article online] that concludes that a chatan can rely on whichever opinion they want but it seems to misquote the Gra and Rama. Either way, the Magen Avraham (as understood by Kaf Hachaim), Chida, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch, Aruch Hashulchan, Mishna Brurah, Kaf Hachaim, and Rav Ovadia all hold that a chatan must fast minor fasts, and it isn't appropriate to follow a sideline minority view in this matter. </ref> | ||
==When does the Fast Start?== | ==When does the Fast Start?== | ||
