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# Some poskim say that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, since it is a useable item during the week, while others say that it is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], as it has no permitted use on [[Shabbat]]. <Ref> The Magen Avraham 308:18 writes that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur and not [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Mor U’Ketziah (to Magen Avraham 308:18), however, maintains that a candle should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], since it doesn’t have any permitted use on [[Shabbat]] at all. Mishna Brurah (308:34 and Shaar HaTziyun 279:4) rules like the Magen Avraham, although he mentions the opinion of the Mor U’Ketziah.  
 
* Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 15 n 14) writes that a candle is an item that has the status of a Kli because it is useable during the week. He therefore explains that this dispute really is a fundamental argument about whether a Kil SheMelachto LeIssur that has no other purpose other than one that is forbidden on [[Shabbat]] is considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] or not. See Shalmei Yehuda (p. 14), who questions this explanation. He instead suggests that perhaps a candle was used for permitted purposes other than kindling in the days of the Magen Avraham; alternatively, the Mor U’Ketziah does not consider burning to be a use even during the week. See also Orchot [[Shabbat]] (v. 3, p. 305) who writes that this issue is dependent on a dispute in the Rishonim.</ref>
#Some poskim say that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, since it is a useable item during the week, while others say that it is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], as it has no permitted use on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>The Magen Avraham 308:18 writes that an unused wax candle is considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur and not [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Mor U’Ketziah (to Magen Avraham 308:18), however, maintains that a candle should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]], since it doesn’t have any permitted use on [[Shabbat]] at all. Mishna Brurah (308:34 and Shaar HaTziyun 279:4) rules like the Magen Avraham, although he mentions the opinion of the Mor U’Ketziah.  
# The following items are considered by some to be [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and by others to be [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].
 
## candles <ref> Magen Avraham 308:18 rejects the (then) common notion that unused candles aren’t [[Muktzeh]] and holds that they are considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]], while the Mor UKesiah (308, pg 67c, mechon yerushalyim pg 344) argues that really candles are [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] and the Magen Avraham really only meant to say that even according to their mistaken logic the candles are [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. The Mishna Brurah 308:34 quotes this as a dispute and decides in favor of the Magen Avraham (as is evident from Shaar HaTziyun 279:4). This is also the opinion of the Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2, pg 404) and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (21:6, vol 1 pg 279). However, Rav Moshe Feinstein in Dibrot Moshe ([[Shabbat]] 36a, vol 1 pg 533-4 note 101) quotes the Maharshal and Shlah who hold like the Mor Ukesiah and concludes that had the Magen Avraham seen these authorities he would have retracted. Therefore, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in the name of Rav Moshe rules stringently. </ref>
*Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 15 n 14) writes that a candle is an item that has the status of a Kli because it is useable during the week. He therefore explains that this dispute really is a fundamental argument about whether a Kil SheMelachto LeIssur that has no other purpose other than one that is forbidden on [[Shabbat]] is considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] or not. See Shalmei Yehuda (p. 14), who questions this explanation. He instead suggests that perhaps a candle was used for permitted purposes other than kindling in the days of the Magen Avraham; alternatively, the Mor U’Ketziah does not consider burning to be a use even during the week. See also Orchot [[Shabbat]] (v. 3, p. 305) who writes that this issue is dependent on a dispute in the Rishonim.</ref>
## copy paper <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
#The following items are considered by some to be [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and by others to be [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].
## lipstick <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
##candles <ref>Magen Avraham 308:18 rejects the (then) common notion that unused candles aren’t [[Muktzeh]] and holds that they are considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]], while the Mor UKesiah (308, pg 67c, mechon yerushalyim pg 344) argues that really candles are [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]] and the Magen Avraham really only meant to say that even according to their mistaken logic the candles are [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. The Mishna Brurah 308:34 quotes this as a dispute and decides in favor of the Magen Avraham (as is evident from Shaar HaTziyun 279:4). This is also the opinion of the Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2, pg 404) and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (21:6, vol 1 pg 279). However, Rav Moshe Feinstein in Dibrot Moshe ([[Shabbat]] 36a, vol 1 pg 533-4 note 101) quotes the Maharshal and Shlah who hold like the Mor Ukesiah and concludes that had the Magen Avraham seen these authorities he would have retracted. Therefore, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in the name of Rav Moshe rules stringently. </ref>
## nails <ref>Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda(pg 180) considers nails and screw in dependent on the dispute quoted in Mishna Brurah 308:34, while Zachor VeShamor considers nails and screws as severe [[Muktzeh]]. </ref>
##copy paper <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
## screws <ref> same as nails </ref>  
##lipstick <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
## [[shofar]] <ref> Rama 308:4 writes that a [[Shofar]] is a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and can be moved for tzorech mekomo and gufo. Mishna Brurah 658:4 explains that it’s only because it’s sometimes used to fill up water to drink. Based on this Mishna Brurah, the Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 28:20 writes in the name of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman, that nowadays when people won’t drink out of a [[shofar]], it has no purpose and is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. However, the Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 56), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406) rules like the Rama. [It seems from the Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] and Yalkut Yosef that the reason to be lenient is because even though there’s no permitted use, it’s still considered a kli.]</ref>
##nails <ref>Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda(pg 180) considers nails and screw in dependent on the dispute quoted in Mishna Brurah 308:34, while Zachor VeShamor considers nails and screws as severe [[Muktzeh]]. </ref>
## Tefillin <Ref>There is a wide dispute regarding the status of [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]], ranging from a Kli SheMelachto LeHetter to [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Beit Yosef 308:4 quotes the Sefer Mikdash, who suggests that [[Tefillin]] should be considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur. The Beit Yosef, however, sides with Rabbi Levi Ben Chaviv, who argues that [[Tefillin]] are Kli SheMelachto LeHetter, since it is permissible to wear them on [[Shabbat]]. Thus, the Trumat HaDeshen 70 and Rama 308:4 rule that [[Tefillin]] may be moved for any need on [[Shabbat]].
##screws <ref>same as nails </ref>
* The Taz 308:3 and Magen Avraham 308:11 ask how the Beit Yosef and Rama could say that [[Tefillin]] is considered Kli SheMelachto LeHetter given that S”A 31:1 follows the Zohar that it is forbidden to wear [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]]. Mishna Brurah 308:24 writes that unless there is a great need, one should follow the strict view of the Taz and Magen Avraham. See Aruch HaShulchan 308:17 who is lenient since [[Tefillin]] are similar to religious books.  
##[[shofar]] <ref>Rama 308:4 writes that a [[Shofar]] is a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] and can be moved for tzorech mekomo and gufo. Mishna Brurah 658:4 explains that it’s only because it’s sometimes used to fill up water to drink. Based on this Mishna Brurah, the Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 28:20 writes in the name of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman, that nowadays when people won’t drink out of a [[shofar]], it has no purpose and is [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. However, the Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 56), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406) rules like the Rama. [It seems from the Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] and Yalkut Yosef that the reason to be lenient is because even though there’s no permitted use, it’s still considered a kli.]</ref>
* Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (quoted by Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata 20 n 33) maintains that even if [[Tefillin]] are considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, they are not [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]] since they can be used to learn halacha from or can be worn without intent to fulfill the mitzvah. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai p. 113) disagrees because practically speaking, people don’t wear [[Tefillin]] without intent to fulfill the mitzvah and thus they should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]]. Brit Olam (p. 113) agrees.
##Tefillin <ref>There is a wide dispute regarding the status of [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]], ranging from a Kli SheMelachto LeHetter to [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]. The Beit Yosef 308:4 quotes the Sefer Mikdash, who suggests that [[Tefillin]] should be considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur. The Beit Yosef, however, sides with Rabbi Levi Ben Chaviv, who argues that [[Tefillin]] are Kli SheMelachto LeHetter, since it is permissible to wear them on [[Shabbat]]. Thus, the Trumat HaDeshen 70 and Rama 308:4 rule that [[Tefillin]] may be moved for any need on [[Shabbat]].
* Rav Soloveitchik (Nefesh HaRav p. 170) similarly forbids moving [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]] but bases this on considering [[Tefillin]] to be Mutzeh Machmat Gufo, since they are like a Kli SheMelachto LeIssur for which there’s no permitted purpose on [[Shabbat]] (see note #2). Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 73, n 3) also entertains this possibility. </ref>
 
## unused candles <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
*The Taz 308:3 and Magen Avraham 308:11 ask how the Beit Yosef and Rama could say that [[Tefillin]] is considered Kli SheMelachto LeHetter given that S”A 31:1 follows the Zohar that it is forbidden to wear [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]]. Mishna Brurah 308:24 writes that unless there is a great need, one should follow the strict view of the Taz and Magen Avraham. See Aruch HaShulchan 308:17 who is lenient since [[Tefillin]] are similar to religious books.
## unused candlesticks <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
*Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (quoted by Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata 20 n 33) maintains that even if [[Tefillin]] are considered Kli SheMelachto LeIssur, they are not [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]] since they can be used to learn halacha from or can be worn without intent to fulfill the mitzvah. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai p. 113) disagrees because practically speaking, people don’t wear [[Tefillin]] without intent to fulfill the mitzvah and thus they should be considered [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]]. Brit Olam (p. 113) agrees.
## unused matches <ref> Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 74) quotes Rav Elyashiv who consider matches to be [[Muktzeh]] machmat gufo, while Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 20:13, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in name of [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]], and Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 74) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:101) brings both opinions and doesn’t give a final ruling. [Rav Moshe (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is strict since a match doesn’t have a permitted function nor is it a kli (since it’s only used one time), while Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is lenient since he holds there’s a permitted use i.e. picking one’s ear.] </ref>
*Rav Soloveitchik (Nefesh HaRav p. 170) similarly forbids moving [[Tefillin]] on [[Shabbat]] but bases this on considering [[Tefillin]] to be Mutzeh Machmat Gufo, since they are like a Kli SheMelachto LeIssur for which there’s no permitted purpose on [[Shabbat]] (see note #2). Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen ([[Muktzeh]]: A Practical Guide p. 73, n 3) also entertains this possibility.</ref>
# One may be lenient for this category if there’s an extenuating circumstance. <ref>Shalmei Yehuda (pg 19) in name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 2:32, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:67, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 </ref>
##unused candles <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
##unused candlesticks <ref>Mishna Brurah 308:34 (as the anonymous first opinion based on Magen Avraham 308:18), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:22(28,32), quoted in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 36 note 2) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. While Mishna Brurah 308:34 in name of the Yaavetz, Chazon Ish 44:13, Aruch HaShulchan 279:1, 308:23, [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] quoted in Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata (chapter 28 note 80) consider it [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  </ref>
##unused matches <ref>Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 74) quotes Rav Elyashiv who consider matches to be [[Muktzeh]] machmat gufo, while Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 20:13, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 82) in name of [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]], and Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 74) consider it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:101) brings both opinions and doesn’t give a final ruling. [Rav Moshe (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is strict since a match doesn’t have a permitted function nor is it a kli (since it’s only used one time), while Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] pg 82) is lenient since he holds there’s a permitted use i.e. picking one’s ear.] </ref>
#One may be lenient for this category if there’s an extenuating circumstance. <ref>Shalmei Yehuda (pg 19) in name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 2:32, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:67, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 </ref>
 
== Discussion in Rishonim ==
 
# Tosfot 36a - muktzeh unless there’s some real useful use
## Tosfot 36a s.v. R’ Yehuda - there’s a small use of the chatzotzrot
## Mor UKesiah (on M"A 308:18)
# Tosfot 44b, 45a, Ramban 44a - not muktzeh as long as there’s some far fetched use
## Ramban 44a - mitah shyichda lmaot, kinah shetarnegol, ner yashan are all muter for R’ Shimon even though for R’ Yehuda they’re batel from a kli since they have no use (but there’s still an uncommon use). Ramban milchamot beitzah 18b - same idea.
## Ramban 64b - tachshitin aren’t muktzeh since you can use them to cover kelim.
## Ramban 154b s.v. bkarnei- R’ Wiederblank - there’s no uncommon use so it isn’t a kli even for R’ Shimon. Ner you can use since you can use it to cover kelim. Ran 154b s.v. bkarnei is like Ramban.
## Tosfot 44b s.v. umah - even though you have no use of ner yashan for R’ Shimon that isn’t asur
## Tosfot 46a s.v. dnefta - ner yashan can’t be used to cover kelim and still R’ Shimon it isn’t muktzeh
# Rashba 154b - not muktzeh even if there’s no far fetched use.
## Rashba 154b s.v. vreyiti argues that a kli even if there’s no heter tzorech gufo at all.
## Rashba 36a chatzotzrot aren’t usable at all and still aren’t muktzeh according to R’ Shimon
## Rashba 44a mitah shyichda lmaot even though there’s no heter use isn’t muktzeh according to R’ Shimon.
 
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