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* Rav Hershel Schachter (Bikvei Hatzoan p. 81) writes that simcha on [[Pesach]] may be a composite mitzvah for all of [[Pesach]], whereas simcha on [[Sukkot]] is a separate mitzvah for each day of [[Yom Tov]] and [[Chol HaMoed]]. He supports this contention from the fact that [[Hallel]] with a bracha is only said on the first day and that the [[Korbanot]] [[Mussaf]] of [[Sukkot]] were different every day. Similarly, Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Pesachim shiur 110 on simchas [[yom tov]]) quoted Rav Yerucham Fishel Perlow on Rasag p. 254-5 says that there's only mitzvah to eat meat once on [[pesach]]. </ref> | * Rav Hershel Schachter (Bikvei Hatzoan p. 81) writes that simcha on [[Pesach]] may be a composite mitzvah for all of [[Pesach]], whereas simcha on [[Sukkot]] is a separate mitzvah for each day of [[Yom Tov]] and [[Chol HaMoed]]. He supports this contention from the fact that [[Hallel]] with a bracha is only said on the first day and that the [[Korbanot]] [[Mussaf]] of [[Sukkot]] were different every day. Similarly, Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Pesachim shiur 110 on simchas [[yom tov]]) quoted Rav Yerucham Fishel Perlow on Rasag p. 254-5 says that there's only mitzvah to eat meat once on [[pesach]]. </ref> | ||
# See [[Shavuot#Eating_Dairy_on_Shavuot]] | # See [[Shavuot#Eating_Dairy_on_Shavuot]] | ||
# Whether the meat has to be eaten within the context of a bread meal is a discussion.<ref>Seemingly not since the obligation for the meat and the bread stem from two different places. The obligation of bread is based on Kiddush, Kiddush Bmakom Seuda, or Oneg Yom Tov. However, the meat is because of simcha (Pesachim 109a). Furthermore, the obligation to have a bread meal at all on Yom Tov is a debate. The Rambam, the one who holds that it is necessary to have meat today, holds that there's no obligation to have a bread meal on Yom Tov besides the first night of Pesach and Sukkot. However, the description of the Rama of how to have dairy and meat in the meal of Shavuot in order to fulfill simchat Yom Tov is within the context of a bread meal. The same is true of the later poskim. Though it isn't necessarily the case that it isn't possible to fulfill it outside the context of a meal. See also Aruch Hashulchan 495 regarding Purim who mantains that it is critical to have the meat meal with bread otherwise it isn't a seuda. Perhaps that is a paradigm for simchat Yom Tov as we see the poskim compare and learn the laws of simchat Yom Tov from Purim. Rav Shraga Feivel Pavarsky in Bet Yitzchak v. 24 p. 388 learns from Rambam Yom Tov 6:18 that it isn't necessary to have the meat of simchat yom tov in the meal.</ref> | |||
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Revision as of 14:29, 25 May 2020
Simchat Yom Tov
- There is a mitzvah of simcha on Yom Tov.[1]
- See Shavuot#Eating_Dairy_on_Shavuot
- Whether the meat has to be eaten within the context of a bread meal is a discussion.[2]
Sources
- ↑ Rambam (Aseh 54), Chinuch 488.
- Rav Hershel Schachter (Bikvei Hatzoan p. 81) writes that simcha on Pesach may be a composite mitzvah for all of Pesach, whereas simcha on Sukkot is a separate mitzvah for each day of Yom Tov and Chol HaMoed. He supports this contention from the fact that Hallel with a bracha is only said on the first day and that the Korbanot Mussaf of Sukkot were different every day. Similarly, Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Pesachim shiur 110 on simchas yom tov) quoted Rav Yerucham Fishel Perlow on Rasag p. 254-5 says that there's only mitzvah to eat meat once on pesach.
- ↑ Seemingly not since the obligation for the meat and the bread stem from two different places. The obligation of bread is based on Kiddush, Kiddush Bmakom Seuda, or Oneg Yom Tov. However, the meat is because of simcha (Pesachim 109a). Furthermore, the obligation to have a bread meal at all on Yom Tov is a debate. The Rambam, the one who holds that it is necessary to have meat today, holds that there's no obligation to have a bread meal on Yom Tov besides the first night of Pesach and Sukkot. However, the description of the Rama of how to have dairy and meat in the meal of Shavuot in order to fulfill simchat Yom Tov is within the context of a bread meal. The same is true of the later poskim. Though it isn't necessarily the case that it isn't possible to fulfill it outside the context of a meal. See also Aruch Hashulchan 495 regarding Purim who mantains that it is critical to have the meat meal with bread otherwise it isn't a seuda. Perhaps that is a paradigm for simchat Yom Tov as we see the poskim compare and learn the laws of simchat Yom Tov from Purim. Rav Shraga Feivel Pavarsky in Bet Yitzchak v. 24 p. 388 learns from Rambam Yom Tov 6:18 that it isn't necessary to have the meat of simchat yom tov in the meal.
