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# One should take the bottom [[Matzah]] and eat it together with [[Maror]] and dip it in Charoset and then wipe the Charoset off. <Ref>S”A 475:1, Mishna Brurah 475:17. The gemara in Pesachim 115a records a dispute about how the mitzvot of [[matza]] and [[maror]] were fulfilled in the times that the temple stood. Chachamim say each thing was eaten on its own. Hillel held that you should wrap them up together into a sandwich to fulfill the pasuk Bamidbar 9:11,עַל-מַצּוֹת וּמְרֹרִים, יֹאכְלֻהוּ. Rambam Hilchot Chametz U'[[matza]] 8:7-8 brings this down. According to Rashi and Rashbam Pesachim 115a this sandwich included the korban [[pesach]]. Shulchan Aruch mentions shaking off the charoset with [[maror]] but doesn't mention it with korech and this is the opinion that he quotes in Beit Yosef 475 "vichen katav" in the name of the Maharil. Mishna Brurah 475:17 quotes the maamar mordechai that one should shake it off. Kaf Hachayim 475:32 says if you want to eat the korech without shaking it off that you can. </ref> Some say not to dip the Korech in Charoset. <Ref>Rama 475:1. Tur 475 quotes the Raavya that we shouldn't dip the korech in the charoset because we already fulfill the obligation to dip when we eat [[maror]], and the charoset which is optional nullifies the obligation to fulfill [[matza]] and [[maror]] according to hillel. There is also no danger from the [[maror]] because the [[matza]] nullifies the bitterness. Tur 475 quotes the Rosh that we should dip, and this is the opinion of the Or Zarua 2:256, and Haghot Maimoniyot Hilchot Chametz u'[[matza]] 8:7 as well. Mishna Brurah 475:19 writes that most Achronim hold like S”A, however those who have the minhag should continue the minhag. </ref>  
[[Korech]] is the eating of the [[Matzah]] with [[Maror]] on [[Pesach]] during the [[Seder]].
==General==
# One should take the bottom [[Matzah]] and eat it together with [[Maror]] and dip it in Charoset and then wipe the Charoset off. <Ref>S”A 475:1, Mishna Brurah 475:17. The Gemara in Pesachim 115a records a dispute about how the Mitzvot of [[Katzah]] and [[Maror]] were fulfilled in the times that the temple stood. Chachamim say each thing was eaten on its own. Hillel held that you should wrap them up together into a sandwich to fulfill the Pasuk in Bamidbar 9:11,עַל-מַצּוֹת וּמְרֹרִים, יֹאכְלֻהוּ. Rambam Hilchot Chametz U'[[Matzah]] 8:7-8 brings this down. According to Rashi and Rashbam Pesachim 115a this sandwich included the korban [[Pesach]]. Shulchan Aruch mentions shaking off the Charoset with [[Maror]] but doesn't mention it with korech and this is the opinion that he quotes in Beit Yosef 475 "Vichen Katav" in the name of the Maharil. Mishna Brurah 475:17 quotes the Maamar Mordechai that one should shake it off. Kaf Hachayim 475:32 says if you want to eat the Korech without shaking it off that you can. </ref> Some say not to dip the Korech in Charoset. <Ref>Rama 475:1. Tur 475 quotes the Raavya that we shouldn't dip the Korech in the Charoset because we already fulfill the obligation to dip when we eat [[Maror]], and the Charoset which is optional nullifies the obligation to fulfill [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]] according to Hillel. There is also no danger from the [[Maror]] because the [[Matzah]] nullifies the bitterness. Tur 475 quotes the Rosh that we should dip, and this is the opinion of the Or Zarua 2:256, and Haghot Maimoniyot Hilchot Chametz u'[[Matzah]] 8:7 as well. Mishna Brurah 475:19 writes that most Achronim hold like S”A, however those who have the Minhag should continue the Minhag. </ref>  
# One should eat the Korech while leaning. <Ref>S”A 475:1, , Ben Ish Chai Tzav:34, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mishna Brura h475:23, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100 </ref> If one didn’t lean and it’s difficult to repeat it one doesn’t have to. <Ref>Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:40, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mekor Chaim 475, S”A HaRav 475:20, Pri Chadash 475:1. </ref>
# One should eat the Korech while leaning. <Ref>S”A 475:1, , Ben Ish Chai Tzav:34, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mishna Brura h475:23, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100 </ref> If one didn’t lean and it’s difficult to repeat it one doesn’t have to. <Ref>Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:40, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mekor Chaim 475, S”A HaRav 475:20, Pri Chadash 475:1. </ref>
# One should not make a interruption not related to the mitzvot from the [[Brachot]] on [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]] until eating the Korech. <Ref>S”A 475:1. Tur 475 quoting the Sefer Hamanhig Hilchot [[Pesach]] 84. </ref> After the fact if one made an interruption one still doesn’t make a Bracha on Korech. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 475:24, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41, Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg. 405 </ref>
# One should not make a interruption not related to the Mitzvot from the [[Brachot]] on [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]] until eating the Korech. <Ref>S”A 475:1. Tur 475 quoting the Sefer Hamanhig Hilchot [[Pesach]] 84. </ref> After the fact if one made an interruption one still doesn’t make a Bracha on Korech. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 475:24, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41, Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg. 405 </ref>
#One should have a [[kezayit]] of [[maror]] for korech. <ref> Mishna Brurah 475:16. Shaagat Aryeh 100 says that according to the Rosh who says that you should only eat a [[Kezayit]] when you say a beracha, then there would be no need for a [[Kezayit]] here. He concludes himself though that one should eat a [[kezayit]]. </ref>  
#One should have a [[Kezayit]] of [[Maror]] for Korech. <ref> Mishna Brurah 475:16. Shaagat Aryeh 100 says that according to the Rosh who says that you should only eat a [[Kezayit]] when you say a [[Beracha]], then there would be no need for a [[Kezayit]] here. He concludes himself though that one should eat a [[Kezayit]]. </ref>  
==How to combine them==
==How to combine them==
#Some say that the [[maror]] should be placed on top of the [[matza]] <ref> Moadim U'zmanim Haggada page 107 because the gemara says he wraps the [[matza]] and [[maror]] not that he wraps one in the other. </ref>, some say to wrap the [[matza]] in [[maror]] <ref> Rabbeinu Chananel Pesachim 115a, Sefer Hachinuch mitzva 21. </ref> while some say to place the [[maror]] between the matzas. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Kitzur S"A 119:7. </ref> All of these methods are valid. <ref> Haggadat Moadim U'Zmanim page 107. The Mishnat Yaakov 475 explains that the reason the custom changed from wrapping the [[matza]] in [[maror]] to putting the [[maror]] between the matzas is that people started to use horseradish for [[maror]] instead of romaine lettuce. </ref>  
#Some say that the [[Maror]] should be placed on top of the [[Matzah]] <ref> Moadim U'Zmanim Haggada page 107 because the Gemara says he wraps the [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]], not that he wraps one in the other. </ref>, some say to wrap the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]] <ref> Rabbeinu Chananel Pesachim 115a, Sefer Hachinuch mitzva 21. </ref>, while some say to place the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzah|Matzot]]. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Kitzur S"A 119:7. </ref> All of these methods are valid. <ref> Haggadat Moadim U'Zmanim page 107. The Mishnat Yaakov 475 explains that the reason the custom changed from wrapping the [[Matzah]] in [[Maror]] to putting the [[Maror]] between the [[Matzot]] is that people started to use horseradish for [[Maror]] instead of romaine lettuce. </ref>  
==What to Say==
==What to Say==
# Sephardim should say the words “Zecher LeMikdash KeHillel." <Ref>S”A 475:1, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100, s.v. VeOmer asks on the source for this practice, and says that perhaps there’s no reason. He also wonders why this is not considered a break, which the Shulchan Aruch says one shouldn't have between the hamotzi before the first [[matza]] eating and the korech. He gives two potential answers to this. According to the first answer, really the S"A wasn't careful with the order he put it in, and one should really eat and then say it. The second answer is that we should change the language of the S"A and you're not really supposed to say it at all. He leaves both questions unresolved. However, Sh”t Yachava Daat 1:19 and Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41 writes that this is the proper practice. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik quoted in Harirei Kedem 2:93 explains that really korech isn't part of the obligations of [[matza]] and [[maror]] but is just an independent expression of remembering the temple and there would then be no problem of a break. He says though, that Rav Chaim Soloveitchik would not interrupt between [[motzi matza]] and the [[matza]] of afikoman in accordance with the ruling of the Shl"a.  </ref> Ashkenazim should say זֵכֶר לְמִקְדָּשׁ כְּהִלֵּל. כֵּן עָשָׂה הִלֵּל בִּזְמַן שבֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הָיָה קַיָים: הָיָה כּוֹרֵךְ מַצָּה וּמָרוֹר וְאוֹכֵל בְּיַחַד <ref>Mishna Brurah 475:21, S"A Harav 475:18.  </ref>
# Sephardim should say the words “Zecher LeMikdash KeHillel." <Ref>S”A 475:1, Chazon Ovadia [[Pesach]] 5763 pg. 100, s.v. VeOmer asks on the source for this practice, and says that perhaps there’s no reason. He also wonders why this is not considered a break, which the Shulchan Aruch says one shouldn't have between the Hamotzi before the first [[Matzah]] eating and the Korech. He gives two potential answers to this. According to the first answer, really the S"A wasn't careful with the order he put it in, and one should really eat and then say it. The second answer is that we should change the language of the S"A and you're not really supposed to say it at all. He leaves both questions unresolved. However, Sh”t Yachava Daat 1:19 and Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41 writes that this is the proper practice. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik quoted in Harirei Kedem 2:93 explains that really Korech isn't part of the obligations of [[Matza]] and [[Maror]] but is just an independent expression of remembering the temple and there would then be no problem of a break. He says though, that Rav Chaim Soloveitchik would not interrupt between Motzi [[Matzah]] and the [[Matzah]] of Afikoman in accordance with the ruling of the Shl"a.  </ref> Ashkenazim should say זֵכֶר לְמִקְדָּשׁ כְּהִלֵּל. כֵּן עָשָׂה הִלֵּל בִּזְמַן שבֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הָיָה קַיָים: הָיָה כּוֹרֵךְ מַצָּה וּמָרוֹר וְאוֹכֵל בְּיַחַד <ref>Mishna Brurah 475:21, S"A Harav 475:18.  </ref>
   
   
==Sources==
==Sources==

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Korech is the eating of the Matzah with Maror on Pesach during the Seder.

General

  1. One should take the bottom Matzah and eat it together with Maror and dip it in Charoset and then wipe the Charoset off. [1] Some say not to dip the Korech in Charoset. [2]
  2. One should eat the Korech while leaning. [3] If one didn’t lean and it’s difficult to repeat it one doesn’t have to. [4]
  3. One should not make a interruption not related to the Mitzvot from the Brachot on Matzah and Maror until eating the Korech. [5] After the fact if one made an interruption one still doesn’t make a Bracha on Korech. [6]
  4. One should have a Kezayit of Maror for Korech. [7]

How to combine them

  1. Some say that the Maror should be placed on top of the Matzah [8], some say to wrap the Matzah in Maror [9], while some say to place the Maror between the Matzot. [10] All of these methods are valid. [11]

What to Say

  1. Sephardim should say the words “Zecher LeMikdash KeHillel." [12] Ashkenazim should say זֵכֶר לְמִקְדָּשׁ כְּהִלֵּל. כֵּן עָשָׂה הִלֵּל בִּזְמַן שבֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הָיָה קַיָים: הָיָה כּוֹרֵךְ מַצָּה וּמָרוֹר וְאוֹכֵל בְּיַחַד [13]

Sources

  1. ↑ S”A 475:1, Mishna Brurah 475:17. The Gemara in Pesachim 115a records a dispute about how the Mitzvot of Katzah and Maror were fulfilled in the times that the temple stood. Chachamim say each thing was eaten on its own. Hillel held that you should wrap them up together into a sandwich to fulfill the Pasuk in Bamidbar 9:11,עַל-מַצּוֹת וּמְרֹרִים, יֹאכְלֻהוּ. Rambam Hilchot Chametz U'Matzah 8:7-8 brings this down. According to Rashi and Rashbam Pesachim 115a this sandwich included the korban Pesach. Shulchan Aruch mentions shaking off the Charoset with Maror but doesn't mention it with korech and this is the opinion that he quotes in Beit Yosef 475 "Vichen Katav" in the name of the Maharil. Mishna Brurah 475:17 quotes the Maamar Mordechai that one should shake it off. Kaf Hachayim 475:32 says if you want to eat the Korech without shaking it off that you can.
  2. ↑ Rama 475:1. Tur 475 quotes the Raavya that we shouldn't dip the Korech in the Charoset because we already fulfill the obligation to dip when we eat Maror, and the Charoset which is optional nullifies the obligation to fulfill Matzah and Maror according to Hillel. There is also no danger from the Maror because the Matzah nullifies the bitterness. Tur 475 quotes the Rosh that we should dip, and this is the opinion of the Or Zarua 2:256, and Haghot Maimoniyot Hilchot Chametz u'Matzah 8:7 as well. Mishna Brurah 475:19 writes that most Achronim hold like S”A, however those who have the Minhag should continue the Minhag.
  3. ↑ S”A 475:1, , Ben Ish Chai Tzav:34, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mishna Brura h475:23, Chazon Ovadia Pesach 5763 pg. 100
  4. ↑ Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:40, Kaf Hachaim 475:36, Mekor Chaim 475, S”A HaRav 475:20, Pri Chadash 475:1.
  5. ↑ S”A 475:1. Tur 475 quoting the Sefer Hamanhig Hilchot Pesach 84.
  6. ↑ Mishna Brurah 475:24, Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41, Yalkut Yosef Moadim pg. 405
  7. ↑ Mishna Brurah 475:16. Shaagat Aryeh 100 says that according to the Rosh who says that you should only eat a Kezayit when you say a Beracha, then there would be no need for a Kezayit here. He concludes himself though that one should eat a Kezayit.
  8. ↑ Moadim U'Zmanim Haggada page 107 because the Gemara says he wraps the Matzah and Maror, not that he wraps one in the other.
  9. ↑ Rabbeinu Chananel Pesachim 115a, Sefer Hachinuch mitzva 21.
  10. ↑ Aruch Hashulchan 475:7, Kitzur S"A 119:7.
  11. ↑ Haggadat Moadim U'Zmanim page 107. The Mishnat Yaakov 475 explains that the reason the custom changed from wrapping the Matzah in Maror to putting the Maror between the Matzot is that people started to use horseradish for Maror instead of romaine lettuce.
  12. ↑ S”A 475:1, Chazon Ovadia Pesach 5763 pg. 100, s.v. VeOmer asks on the source for this practice, and says that perhaps there’s no reason. He also wonders why this is not considered a break, which the Shulchan Aruch says one shouldn't have between the Hamotzi before the first Matzah eating and the Korech. He gives two potential answers to this. According to the first answer, really the S"A wasn't careful with the order he put it in, and one should really eat and then say it. The second answer is that we should change the language of the S"A and you're not really supposed to say it at all. He leaves both questions unresolved. However, Sh”t Yachava Daat 1:19 and Sh”t Chazon Ovadyah 1:41 writes that this is the proper practice. Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik quoted in Harirei Kedem 2:93 explains that really Korech isn't part of the obligations of Matza and Maror but is just an independent expression of remembering the temple and there would then be no problem of a break. He says though, that Rav Chaim Soloveitchik would not interrupt between Motzi Matzah and the Matzah of Afikoman in accordance with the ruling of the Shl"a.
  13. ↑ Mishna Brurah 475:21, S"A Harav 475:18.
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