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*Do we hold like the Raavad? The Raavad isn’t quoted by the Shulchan Aruch, Rama, Shach, or Taz. Chelkat Binyamin 539 quotes the Bet Shlomo 2:66 who is strict. | *Do we hold like the Raavad? The Raavad isn’t quoted by the Shulchan Aruch, Rama, Shach, or Taz. Chelkat Binyamin 539 quotes the Bet Shlomo 2:66 who is strict. | ||
*What does the Raavad do about the Mishna Mikvaot 4:3 established that any pipe which wasn’t meant to hold water even if it has a receptacle doesn’t create sheuvim? Rav Chaim (Mikvaot 6:4) explains that the Raavad is only relevant to dipping in a pipe as a mikveh or using the pipe to connect two mikvot that are lacking. The explanation is that when connecting mikvaot anything used to connect them is necessary for that section to be kosher even if he were to be tovel in that section. However, the bent pipe doesn't actually make it sheuvim. Divrei Chaim 201:33 explains that the Raavad only meant that if the bent pipe is meant to hold to water is it invalid even if it originally wasn’t meant to hold anything. Gidulei Tahara 9 also limits the Raavad to where the bent pipe has some way of holding something, albeit in a temporary fashion. But a pipe just used to redirect water doesn't make sheuvim. Rabbi Buckwald (Baalei Hanefesh p. 157 fnt. 32) prefers the Gidulei Tahara's explanation in light of what he writes in Baalei Hanefesh and his teshuvot. However, Rav Aryeh Leib Malin (73 s.v. vnireh, 2:71:2) understands the Raavad to mean that since the bent pipe is useful in that it can direct water flow it creates sheuvim. Chelkat Binyamin 201:529 cites the dispute between those who limit the Raavad and those who apply it generally.</ref> | *What does the Raavad do about the Mishna Mikvaot 4:3 established that any pipe which wasn’t meant to hold water even if it has a receptacle doesn’t create sheuvim? Rav Chaim (Mikvaot 6:4) explains that the Raavad is only relevant to dipping in a pipe as a mikveh or using the pipe to connect two mikvot that are lacking. The explanation is that when connecting mikvaot anything used to connect them is necessary for that section to be kosher even if he were to be tovel in that section. However, the bent pipe doesn't actually make it sheuvim. Divrei Chaim 201:33 explains that the Raavad only meant that if the bent pipe is meant to hold to water is it invalid even if it originally wasn’t meant to hold anything. Gidulei Tahara 9 also limits the Raavad to where the bent pipe has some way of holding something, albeit in a temporary fashion. But a pipe just used to redirect water doesn't make sheuvim. Rabbi Buckwald (Baalei Hanefesh p. 157 fnt. 32) prefers the Gidulei Tahara's explanation in light of what he writes in Baalei Hanefesh and his teshuvot. However, Rav Aryeh Leib Malin (73 s.v. vnireh, 2:71:2) understands the Raavad to mean that since the bent pipe is useful in that it can direct water flow it creates sheuvim. Chelkat Binyamin 201:529 cites the dispute between those who limit the Raavad and those who apply it generally.</ref> | ||
# A pipe which was attached to the ground and got a indentation because it rotted in one place is kosher according to most poskim, but invalid according to some poskim.<ref>Hagahot Mordechai (Kiddushin 560) quotes one opinion who is strict to say that if a pipe gets a depression because the pipe rotted in one place it is invalid. That depression makes it a kli and the water flowing in that pipe is sheuvim. However, Rabbenu Shemarya argued that it is kosher since he didn't intend that the rotting would make it a kli. Maharik 56 writes that the minhag is like Rabbenu Shemarya but he was personally strict for the strict opinion. Bet Yosef 201:36 argues with the strict opinion since the pipe wasn't made into a kli intentionally. Rama 201:36 codifies this opinion. Chatom Sofer YD 201 disagrees and holds based on Chullin 13a that the pipe with a depression that happened on its own is completely invalid. Likutei Haarot on Chatom Sofer quotes Chesed Lavraham who strongly disagrees with Chatom Sofer.</ref> | |||
===Pipes Made to be Attached to the Ground=== | ===Pipes Made to be Attached to the Ground=== | ||
