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===Social Drinking With Non-Jews===
===Drinking With Non-Jews in a Non-Jewish Store or House===


#In social situations with non-Jews, Sephardim may not drink any beer.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 114:1, Kaf HaChaim 114:11</ref><ref>Avoda Zara 31b, The Gemara discusses that the issue of drinking with non-Jews is due to the fact that this may lead to intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews.</ref> Ashkenazi custom is more lenient and they may drink anything besides date honey beer. <ref>Rama Yoreh Deah 114:1</ref> However, there are a wide range of opinions, and many still adopt a strict approach in these situations.<ref name=":0">Chelkat Binyamin 114:22</ref><ref>Aruch Hashulchan 114:6, The Aruch Hashulchan notes that the decree by the rabbis of the gemara regarding beer was less strict than the decree by the rabbis of the mishnah regarding wine. The rabbis of the gemara did not feel the need to make as strict of a decree as wine has more of an intoxicating power than beer (Tehillim 105:15) and the rabbis of the gemara felt uncomfortable enacting as severe of a decree as the rabbis of the mishna.</ref>
#In social situations with non-Jews, Sephardim may not drink any beer.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 114:1, Kaf HaChaim 114:11</ref><ref>Avoda Zara 31b, The Gemara discusses that the issue of drinking with non-Jews is due to the fact that this may lead to intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews.</ref> Ashkenazi custom is more lenient and they may drink anything besides date honey beer. <ref>Rama Yoreh Deah 114:1</ref> However, there are a wide range of opinions, and many still adopt a strict approach in these situations.<ref name=":0">Chelkat Binyamin 114:22</ref><ref>Aruch Hashulchan 114:6, The Aruch Hashulchan notes that the decree by the rabbis of the gemara regarding beer was less strict than the decree by the rabbis of the mishnah regarding wine. The rabbis of the gemara did not feel the need to make as strict of a decree as wine has more of an intoxicating power than beer (Tehillim 105:15) and the rabbis of the gemara felt uncomfortable enacting as severe of a decree as the rabbis of the mishna.</ref>
#Having tea or coffee in a non-Jewish store with non-Jews is allowed, but many advise against this practice.<ref name=":0" /> See page on [[Marit Ayin/Suspicious actions|Marit Ayin]] for relevant halachot in these situations.
#Having tea or coffee in a non-Jewish store with non-Jews is allowed, but many advise against this practice.<ref name=":0" /> See page on [[Marit Ayin/Suspicious actions|Marit Ayin]] for relevant halachot in these situations.
#'''Add that its muttar once you take it out of their house. And some there are machmir.'''
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#One is not allowed to drink any alcohol or eat any food at a party provided that there are more non-Jews than Jews at his table or immediate social group at the party.<ref name=":1">Rambam Ma'achalot Asurot 17:9-10</ref><ref>Gemara Avoda Zara 8a</ref> Some say the prohibition also applies to a case where there are an equal amount of Jews and non-Jews.<ref>Pri Chadash 114:1</ref>
#One is not allowed to drink any alcohol or eat any food at a party provided that there are more non-Jews than Jews at his table or immediate social group at the party.<ref name=":1">Rambam Ma'achalot Asurot 17:9-10</ref><ref>Gemara Avoda Zara 8a</ref> Some say the prohibition also applies to a case where there are an equal amount of Jews and non-Jews.<ref>Pri Chadash 114:1</ref>
#Where there are more Jews than non-Jews in one's social group or table at a party, the prohibitions do not apply.<ref name=":1" />
#Where there are more Jews than non-Jews in one's social group or table at a party, the prohibitions do not apply.<ref name=":1" />
#DISCUSS KULAH
#'''DISCUSS KULAH'''
#'''Rambam only writes wine and the divrei david says (Been Yisral Leamin) .... Rav Moshe argues (Discussion on liquor)'''


===Attending Non-Jewish Weddings===
===Attending Non-Jewish Weddings===
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#One is generally forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding.<ref>Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara. </ref> This prohibition still applies even if one brings their own food.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1</ref>
#One is generally forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding.<ref>Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara. </ref> This prohibition still applies even if one brings their own food.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1</ref>
#Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.<ref>Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings. </ref> Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage. </ref>
#Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.<ref>Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings. </ref> Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.<ref>Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage. </ref>
#(DISCUSS THE CHUMRA OF NOT ENDING AND THE KULLAH MISHUM EIVA. NOT FINISHED PAGE)
#'''Kullah Mishum eiva and attending and don't eat (machlokes)'''


===Attending Business Holiday Parties===
===Attending Business Holiday Parties===

Revision as of 00:42, 23 July 2019

Drinking With Non-Jews in a Non-Jewish Store or House

  1. In social situations with non-Jews, Sephardim may not drink any beer.[1][2] Ashkenazi custom is more lenient and they may drink anything besides date honey beer. [3] However, there are a wide range of opinions, and many still adopt a strict approach in these situations.[4][5]
  2. Having tea or coffee in a non-Jewish store with non-Jews is allowed, but many advise against this practice.[4] See page on Marit Ayin for relevant halachot in these situations.
  3. Add that its muttar once you take it out of their house. And some there are machmir.

Attending Parties With Non-Jews

  1. One is not allowed to drink any alcohol or eat any food at a party provided that there are more non-Jews than Jews at his table or immediate social group at the party.[6][7] Some say the prohibition also applies to a case where there are an equal amount of Jews and non-Jews.[8]
  2. Where there are more Jews than non-Jews in one's social group or table at a party, the prohibitions do not apply.[6]
  3. DISCUSS KULAH
  4. Rambam only writes wine and the divrei david says (Been Yisral Leamin) .... Rav Moshe argues (Discussion on liquor)

Attending Non-Jewish Weddings

  1. One is generally forbidden from eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding.[9] This prohibition still applies even if one brings their own food.[10]
  2. Some say that eating and drinking at the wedding of a Muslim is allowed.[11] Others argue that attending the wedding of any non-Jew, even if the non-Jew is a Muslim, is forbidden.[12]
  3. Kullah Mishum eiva and attending and don't eat (machlokes)

Attending Business Holiday Parties

Links

  1. Shiur from Rav Yoni Levin

Sources

  1. ↑ Shulchan Aruch 114:1, Kaf HaChaim 114:11
  2. ↑ Avoda Zara 31b, The Gemara discusses that the issue of drinking with non-Jews is due to the fact that this may lead to intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews.
  3. ↑ Rama Yoreh Deah 114:1
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 Chelkat Binyamin 114:22
  5. ↑ Aruch Hashulchan 114:6, The Aruch Hashulchan notes that the decree by the rabbis of the gemara regarding beer was less strict than the decree by the rabbis of the mishnah regarding wine. The rabbis of the gemara did not feel the need to make as strict of a decree as wine has more of an intoxicating power than beer (Tehillim 105:15) and the rabbis of the gemara felt uncomfortable enacting as severe of a decree as the rabbis of the mishna.
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Rambam Ma'achalot Asurot 17:9-10
  7. ↑ Gemara Avoda Zara 8a
  8. ↑ Pri Chadash 114:1
  9. ↑ Avoda Zara 8a, The gemara explains that the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that one will come to do Avoda Zara.
  10. ↑ Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 152:1
  11. ↑ Yabia Omer Section 10, Yoreh Deah 13, Rav Ovadia argues that since Muslims are not idol worshipers the prohibition of eating and drinking at a non-Jewish wedding does not apply to Muslim weddings.
  12. ↑ Ben Yisrael Lenachri pg. 398, According to view that it is forbidden to eat and drink at the wedding of a Muslim, the issue of eating and drinking at the wedding of a non-Jew is that it will lead to intermarriage. Therefore, it is still an issue to eat and drink at the wedding of a muslim as this practice may lead to intermarriage.
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