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The prohibition of Molid is general in nature and has many applications. <ref> '''Background''' <br />
The gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b writes that one may not crush now but may place it into a glass on [[Shabbat]]. There are a few different approaches to why it would be prohibited to crush snow:
 
# Rashba there explains that the prohibition is based on the prohibition of [[sechita]] ([[squeezing]]), that just as it is forbidden to squeeze fruit it is forbidden to squeeze ice.
# Rashi 51b “kdei” writes that you are being “molid” on [[Shabbat]], and it is like a melacha. The Rosh 4:13 understands the sefer hateruma 234-235 as saying a similar idea
# The aforementioned Rashba quotes the sefer hateruma 234-235 understands that the problem is based on the [[muktzeh]] category of nolad. Since the result will be [[muktzeh]] since it is a newly created item, it would be prohibited. </ref>
 
==Crushing and melting ice==
==Crushing and melting ice==
# One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, S"A 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368)</ref>
# One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice into a cup of water and have it melt on its own <ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, S"A 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74</ref>
# One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368) </ref>
# One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Berura 320:39 </ref>
# One may spread salt on icy walkway or stairs on [[Shabbat]] to prevent people from slipping.<ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368)</ref>
# One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref>
# One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref>
# One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. <ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Daily Halacha], Kaf Hachayim 320:60 </ref>
# One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the cup. <ref>http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 </ref>
# One shouldn’t put ice in a cup in order for the ice to melt and drink the water. If one did so, it’s advisable not to use the water but it’s not forbidden. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:3 </ref>
# One shouldn’t put ice in a cup in order for the ice to melt and drink the water. If one did so, it’s advisable not to use the water but it’s not forbidden. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:3 </ref>
# One may put ice into water to chill the water.<Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364) </ref>
# One should not place ice in a cup and intend to drink it when it melts. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74 </ref>
# One should not place ice in a cup and intend to drink it when it melts. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74 </ref>
# One should not have a frozen milk or juice container melt or thaw unless there's an important need for the liquid. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 358) </ref>
# One should not have a frozen milk or juice container melt or thaw unless there's an important need for the liquid. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 358) </ref>
# One may break ice cubes that are frozen together in an ice tray because one does not intend to produce water from the breaking.<ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 367) </ref>
# One may break ice cubes that are frozen together in an ice tray because one does not intend to produce water from the breaking.<ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 367) </ref>
==Making ice on Shabbat==
==Making ice on Shabbat==
# One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]]. The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. </ref>
# One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:14 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]]. The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. see also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24 </ref>
# One may put food into the freezer or refrigerator. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:5, 10:9 </ref>
# One may put food into the freezer or refrigerator. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:5, 10:9 </ref>
 
==Snow==
[[http://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Games_on_Shabbat#Snow Snow on Shabbat]]
==Defrosting food==
==Defrosting food==
# One may remove food from the freezer in order to thaw in order to eat it on [[Shabbat]] but not if it won’t be ready until after [[Shabbat]]. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:5, 10 </ref>
# One may remove food from the freezer in order to thaw in order to eat it on [[Shabbat]] but not if it won’t be ready until after [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:5, 10 </ref>
==Ice Cream==
==Ice Cream==
# It’s permissible to melt ice cream in order to eat it as long as one doesn’t put in a place of 113 degrees. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:8 </ref>
# It’s permissible to melt ice cream in order to eat it as long as one doesn’t put in a place of 113 degrees. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:8 </ref>
# One shouldn’t make ice cream from powder on [[Shabbat]] unless it’s a thin mixture, one puts the ingredients in the reverse order than usual, and one stirs it differently. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:9, 10:6 </ref>
# One shouldn’t make ice cream from powder on [[Shabbat]] unless it’s a thin mixture, one puts the ingredients in the reverse order than usual, and one stirs it differently. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 8:9, 10:6 </ref>
==Cooling a hot pot==
==Cooling a hot pot==
# A may not place hot (over 113 degree) solid food or a Kli Rishon in cold water. However, one may place a Kli Sheni into cold water. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:73 </ref>
# A may not place hot (over 113 degree) solid food or a Kli Rishon in cold water. However, one may place a Kli Sheni into cold water. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:73 </ref>
==Using whipped cream==
==Using whipped cream==
# It is forbidden to use whipped topping or whipped cream from a can on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 371), [https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thehalacha.com%2Fattach%2FVolume4%2FIssue16.pdf Halachically Speaking (vol 4, Issue 16, pg 5)] quoting Rav Yisrael Belsky (also in Shulchan Halevi 9:9) </ref>
# It is forbidden to use whipped topping or whipped cream from a can on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 371), [https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thehalacha.com%2Fattach%2FVolume4%2FIssue16.pdf Halachically Speaking (vol 4, Issue 16, pg 5)] quoting Rav Yisrael Belsky (also in Shulchan Halevi 9:9). see [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/761831/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Ten_Minute_Halacha_-_Ice_Cubes_and_Whipped_Cream_on_Shabbos Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] for an elaboration  </ref>


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The prohibition of Molid is general in nature and has many applications. [1]

Crushing and melting ice

  1. One may not crush ice on Shabbat, but one may place ice into a cup of water and have it melt on its own [2]
  2. One may walk on ice or snow on Shabbat and it is not a concern of melting ice. [3]
  3. One may melt ice on shabbat if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. [4]
  4. One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. [5] According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. [6]
  5. One shouldn’t put ice in a cup in order for the ice to melt and drink the water. If one did so, it’s advisable not to use the water but it’s not forbidden. [7]
  6. One should not place ice in a cup and intend to drink it when it melts. [8]
  7. One should not have a frozen milk or juice container melt or thaw unless there's an important need for the liquid. [9]
  8. One may break ice cubes that are frozen together in an ice tray because one does not intend to produce water from the breaking.[10]

Making ice on Shabbat

  1. One shouldn’t make ice on Shabbat unless one feels that one can’t do without them on Shabbat. [11]
  2. One may put food into the freezer or refrigerator. [12]

Snow

[Snow on Shabbat]

Defrosting food

  1. One may remove food from the freezer in order to thaw in order to eat it on Shabbat but not if it won’t be ready until after Shabbat. [13]

Ice Cream

  1. It’s permissible to melt ice cream in order to eat it as long as one doesn’t put in a place of 113 degrees. [14]
  2. One shouldn’t make ice cream from powder on Shabbat unless it’s a thin mixture, one puts the ingredients in the reverse order than usual, and one stirs it differently. [15]

Cooling a hot pot

  1. A may not place hot (over 113 degree) solid food or a Kli Rishon in cold water. However, one may place a Kli Sheni into cold water. [16]

Using whipped cream

  1. It is forbidden to use whipped topping or whipped cream from a can on Shabbat. [17]

Sources

  1. ↑ Background
    The gemara Shabbat 51b writes that one may not crush now but may place it into a glass on Shabbat. There are a few different approaches to why it would be prohibited to crush snow:
    1. Rashba there explains that the prohibition is based on the prohibition of sechita (squeezing), that just as it is forbidden to squeeze fruit it is forbidden to squeeze ice.
    2. Rashi 51b “kdei” writes that you are being “molid” on Shabbat, and it is like a melacha. The Rosh 4:13 understands the sefer hateruma 234-235 as saying a similar idea
    3. The aforementioned Rashba quotes the sefer hateruma 234-235 understands that the problem is based on the muktzeh category of nolad. Since the result will be muktzeh since it is a newly created item, it would be prohibited.
  2. ↑ Gemara Shabbat 51b, S"A 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:74
  3. ↑ Rabbi Mansour on Dailyhalacha.com, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Berura 320:39
  4. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:1
  5. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:2
  6. ↑ Daily Halacha, Kaf Hachayim 320:60
  7. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:3
  8. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:74
  9. ↑ 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 358)
  10. ↑ 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 367)
  11. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:14 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on Shabbat unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, Shevet Halevi 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on Shabbat. The Shabbos Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. see also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24
  12. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:5, 10:9
  13. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:5, 10
  14. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:8
  15. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9, 10:6
  16. ↑ Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:73
  17. ↑ 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 371), Halachically Speaking (vol 4, Issue 16, pg 5) quoting Rav Yisrael Belsky (also in Shulchan Halevi 9:9). see Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz for an elaboration
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