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==Kosher Food Left with a Non-Jew==
==Kosher Food Left with a Non-Jew==


#Some rishonim hold that only a delivery needs two seals but if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew one seal is sufficient. After the fact this opinion can be relied upon for a great loss.<ref>Tosfot Avoda Zara 31a s.v. damar write that one seal is enough if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew and turns to find it the same as he left it. Ran Avoda Zara 11a favors the opinion of Tosfot but he notes that the Rif, Rambam, and Bahag disagree with this approach. Pri Chadash 118:14 accepts Tosfot as primary. Shulchan Aruch 118:1 quotes the majority opinion as anonymous and Tosfot as an individual opinion. Kaf Hachaim 118:17 writes that for a great loss we could rely on Tosfot.</ref>
#Some rishonim hold that only a delivery needs two seals but if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew one seal is sufficient. After the fact this opinion can be relied upon for a great loss.<ref>Tosfot Avoda Zara 31a s.v. damar write that one seal is enough if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew and turns to find it the same as he left it. Ran Avoda Zara 11a favors the opinion of Tosfot but he notes that the Rif, Rambam, and Bahag disagree with this approach. Pri Chadash 118:14 accepts Tosfot as primary. Shulchan Aruch 118:1 quotes the majority opinion as anonymous and Tosfot as an individual opinion. Kaf Hachaim 118:17 writes that for a great loss we could rely on Tosfot.</ref>
==Kosher Pots Left with a Non-Jew==
==Kosher Pots Left with a Non-Jew==


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##designate pots for the non-Jew so that they can use their own pots and won't have to use the kosher pots.<ref>Tosfot Avoda Zara 12a s.v. vshadi writes that we're not concerned that the non-Jew will intentionally take something from a Jew unless he stands to benefit. Minchat Asher YD 2:51 s.v. vnireh writes if a non-Jew has pots designated for them we can assume that they used those and there's no concern that they used the kosher pots that they were not supposed to use.</ref>
##designate pots for the non-Jew so that they can use their own pots and won't have to use the kosher pots.<ref>Tosfot Avoda Zara 12a s.v. vshadi writes that we're not concerned that the non-Jew will intentionally take something from a Jew unless he stands to benefit. Minchat Asher YD 2:51 s.v. vnireh writes if a non-Jew has pots designated for them we can assume that they used those and there's no concern that they used the kosher pots that they were not supposed to use.</ref>
#After the fact if one left one's kosher pots with a non-Jew such as with a maid for more than 18 minutes the kosher might have been made non-Kosher. As such one shouldn't use them for 24 hours but afterwards one can use them without kashering them.<ref>Rama 122:9, Igrot Moshe 1:61</ref> Other poskim hold that after the fact the pots can be used immediately.<ref>Minchat Asher YD 2:51</ref>
#After the fact if one left one's kosher pots with a non-Jew such as with a maid for more than 18 minutes the kosher might have been made non-Kosher. As such one shouldn't use them for 24 hours but afterwards one can use them without kashering them.<ref>Rama 122:9, Igrot Moshe 1:61</ref> Other poskim hold that after the fact the pots can be used immediately.<ref>Minchat Asher YD 2:51</ref>
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See also the Kashrut in the Workplace page.

Kosher Food Left with a Non-Jew

  1. Some rishonim hold that only a delivery needs two seals but if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew one seal is sufficient. After the fact this opinion can be relied upon for a great loss.[1]

Kosher Pots Left with a Non-Jew

  1. A person shouldn't leave kosher pots with a non-Jew otherwise there is a concern that they used the kosher pots for non-kosher food.[2] To avoid this issue one could either
    1. leave for less than 18 minutes or not let the non-Jew know that you are leaving for more than 18 minutes and they think you might return at any moment,[3]
    2. designate pots for the non-Jew so that they can use their own pots and won't have to use the kosher pots.[4]
  2. After the fact if one left one's kosher pots with a non-Jew such as with a maid for more than 18 minutes the kosher might have been made non-Kosher. As such one shouldn't use them for 24 hours but afterwards one can use them without kashering them.[5] Other poskim hold that after the fact the pots can be used immediately.[6]

Sources

  1. ↑ Tosfot Avoda Zara 31a s.v. damar write that one seal is enough if someone left kosher food with a non-Jew and turns to find it the same as he left it. Ran Avoda Zara 11a favors the opinion of Tosfot but he notes that the Rif, Rambam, and Bahag disagree with this approach. Pri Chadash 118:14 accepts Tosfot as primary. Shulchan Aruch 118:1 quotes the majority opinion as anonymous and Tosfot as an individual opinion. Kaf Hachaim 118:17 writes that for a great loss we could rely on Tosfot.
  2. ↑ Shulchan Aruch and Rama Y.D. 122:9
  3. ↑ Shach 122:9
  4. ↑ Tosfot Avoda Zara 12a s.v. vshadi writes that we're not concerned that the non-Jew will intentionally take something from a Jew unless he stands to benefit. Minchat Asher YD 2:51 s.v. vnireh writes if a non-Jew has pots designated for them we can assume that they used those and there's no concern that they used the kosher pots that they were not supposed to use.
  5. ↑ Rama 122:9, Igrot Moshe 1:61
  6. ↑ Minchat Asher YD 2:51
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