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* This practice of many Sephardim such as those from Colombia to make the Bracha before washing one’s hands, does not follow the opinion of the Rama who says you can make the Bracha after washing but before drying. ~[[User:Yaabim]]
* This practice of many Sephardim such as those from Colombia to make the Bracha before washing one’s hands, does not follow the opinion of the Rama who says you can make the Bracha after washing but before drying. ~[[User:Yaabim]]
* The practice of Rav Hershel Schachter is to recite the bracha before washing. However, the minhag in YU and most places in America is to recite the bracha after washing. --[[User:YitzchakSultan|YitzchakSultan]] ([[User talk:YitzchakSultan|talk]]) 11:25, 2 April 2015 (EDT)
* [Some discussions on this page were moved to the appropriate page.]
* Halacha Brurah 158:29 writes that the international minhag it to recite the bracha after washing before drying, but if one wanted to privately follow the Shulchan Aruch one would be permitted to do so.
* To YitzchakSultan: In the article, all references to this "Sephardic minhag" are from siman 158, and therefore presumably irrelevant to our sugya. Should I erase them from the article? --[[User:lygold123|lygold123]]
* To YitzchakSultan: Are you sure this applies at all by netillas yadayim in the morning, when acc. to the Rosh the whole reason for the mitzvah is because the hands are NOT clean (and although it does seem from the rosh in Berachos 9:23 [see Agur hilchos tefillah 3] that you're allowed to make berachos in the morning with yadayim metunafos, the shulchan aruch clearly rules like the rashba that youre not allowed to), and therefore it should be assur to say any berachos prior thereof? And if you'll clean the hands first it should come out that you're not obligated in the mitzvah at all anymore acc. to the rosh. I'm pretty certain Rabbi Lebowitz's anecdote with Rav Schachter was by Netilas Yadayim for a seudah. [[User:LeviGoldman]]
* Levi Goldman: You're right again. I removed those references and replaced them with the correct references. All of those discussions have been moved to the appropriate page: [[Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_Meal#Bracha]]. Also, I moved part of our discussion to the correct page: [[Talk:Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_Meal]]. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.--[[User:YitzchakSultan|YitzchakSultan]] ([[User talk:YitzchakSultan|talk]]) 14:06, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
* Levi Goldman, you're right. Rav Schachter's anecdote was only regarding washing by the meal and the reasons as to why it can't apply do make sense. --[[User:YitzchakSultan|YitzchakSultan]] ([[User talk:YitzchakSultan|talk]]) 23:07, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
* To YitzchakSultan: In the article, all references to this "Sephardic minhag" are from siman 158, and therefore presumably irrelevant to our sugya. Should I erase them from the article? --[[User:LeviGoldman]]

Latest revision as of 18:07, 31 July 2015

  • This practice of many Sephardim such as those from Colombia to make the Bracha before washing one’s hands, does not follow the opinion of the Rama who says you can make the Bracha after washing but before drying. ~User:Yaabim
  • [Some discussions on this page were moved to the appropriate page.]
  • To YitzchakSultan: In the article, all references to this "Sephardic minhag" are from siman 158, and therefore presumably irrelevant to our sugya. Should I erase them from the article? --lygold123
  • Levi Goldman: You're right again. I removed those references and replaced them with the correct references. All of those discussions have been moved to the appropriate page: Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_Meal#Bracha. Also, I moved part of our discussion to the correct page: Talk:Netilat_Yadayim_for_a_Meal. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.--YitzchakSultan (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2015 (EDT)