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One category of muktzeh is one in which an item is muktzeh during [[Ben HaShemashot]] and remains that way all of Shabbat. Items which remain muktzeh because of a status they had during [[Ben HaShemashot]] are called Muktzeh Machmat Isur. | One category of muktzeh is one in which an item is muktzeh during [[Ben HaShemashot]] and remains that way all of Shabbat. Items which remain muktzeh because of a status they had during [[Ben HaShemashot]] are called Muktzeh Machmat Isur. | ||
==Lit | ==Lit Candles== | ||
# An oil candle that was lit before Shabbat going into Shabbat is muktzeh all of Shabbat even after it goes out. <ref>The Gemara (Shabbat 44a) records a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon whether the leftover oil in a candle is muktzeh after the candle goes out. Rabbi Yehuda considers it muktzeh, while Rabbi Shimon does not. Rav Acha and Ravina (Gemara Shabbat 157a) agree that we follow Rabbi Yehuda's opinion regarding Muktzeh Machmat Isur and the example it gives is the leftover oil from a candle that was lit that Shabbat.</ref> | # An oil candle that was lit before Shabbat going into Shabbat is muktzeh all of Shabbat even after it goes out. <ref>The Gemara (Shabbat 44a) records a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon whether the leftover oil in a candle is muktzeh after the candle goes out. Rabbi Yehuda considers it muktzeh, while Rabbi Shimon does not. Rav Acha and Ravina (Gemara Shabbat 157a) agree that we follow Rabbi Yehuda's opinion regarding Muktzeh Machmat Isur and the example it gives is the leftover oil from a candle that was lit that Shabbat.</ref> | ||
# Why is a flame muktzeh? Shaarei Muktzeh siman 17 p. 129 | |||
## Dibrot Moshe 2:38 and Igrot Moshe OC 3:50 proposes that a flame isn’t a kli since it wasn't human fashioned. | |||
## Minchat Asher Shabbat siman 50 answers that it isn't a kli since it isn't made to be used for movement, it is used only to light up the room. | |||
## Chazon Ish 41:16 explains that you designate a place for it so it is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis. | |||
## Chazon Ish and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Minchat Shlomo 1:14) says that it is nolad since it regenerates each moment. | |||
## Peni Yehoshua 45a s.v. kein explains that it is used for kibuy. He supports it from Rashi 44a s.v. Chutz. This approach is also explicit in Ritva 47a s.v. chutz! | |||
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One category of muktzeh is one in which an item is muktzeh during Ben HaShemashot and remains that way all of Shabbat. Items which remain muktzeh because of a status they had during Ben HaShemashot are called Muktzeh Machmat Isur.
Lit Candles
- An oil candle that was lit before Shabbat going into Shabbat is muktzeh all of Shabbat even after it goes out. [1]
- Why is a flame muktzeh? Shaarei Muktzeh siman 17 p. 129
- Dibrot Moshe 2:38 and Igrot Moshe OC 3:50 proposes that a flame isn’t a kli since it wasn't human fashioned.
- Minchat Asher Shabbat siman 50 answers that it isn't a kli since it isn't made to be used for movement, it is used only to light up the room.
- Chazon Ish 41:16 explains that you designate a place for it so it is muktzeh machmat chisaron kis.
- Chazon Ish and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Minchat Shlomo 1:14) says that it is nolad since it regenerates each moment.
- Peni Yehoshua 45a s.v. kein explains that it is used for kibuy. He supports it from Rashi 44a s.v. Chutz. This approach is also explicit in Ritva 47a s.v. chutz!
Sources
- ↑ The Gemara (Shabbat 44a) records a dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon whether the leftover oil in a candle is muktzeh after the candle goes out. Rabbi Yehuda considers it muktzeh, while Rabbi Shimon does not. Rav Acha and Ravina (Gemara Shabbat 157a) agree that we follow Rabbi Yehuda's opinion regarding Muktzeh Machmat Isur and the example it gives is the leftover oil from a candle that was lit that Shabbat.
