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* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that nowadays since the boats are calmer and it’s less likely that it will ruin one’s oneg [[Shabbat]] it’s permissible to board the boat on Friday. [http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Yisrael Belsky] (OU Kosher Webcast, December 2011, min 3-9) says that nowadays the minhag is to be lenient and there is what to rely on. Rav Elyashiv (Hilchot Shabbat Bshabbato v. 1 ch. 2 fnt. 8) agrees. However, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 30:66 rules that trips for vacation may only board the ship on the first three days of the week even nowadays. ([http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/728838/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Eruvin_Shiur_#118 Rav Herschel Schachter] (min 77) seems to agree.) VeDaber Davar (Rav Shmuel Pinchasi, 1:25), Chut Sheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz, vol 1, pg 72), and [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1594 Daily Halacha by Rabbi Mansour] agree with Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata. Similarly, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, pg 48) argues that one should not be lenient unless one frequently travels by boat and isn’t bothered by the travel. </ref> This is all on condition that the captain and crew are non-Jewish and that a majority of the passengers are non-Jewish. <Ref>
* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that nowadays since the boats are calmer and it’s less likely that it will ruin one’s oneg [[Shabbat]] it’s permissible to board the boat on Friday. [http://www.ou.org/webcast_kosher Rabbi Yisrael Belsky] (OU Kosher Webcast, December 2011, min 3-9) says that nowadays the minhag is to be lenient and there is what to rely on. Rav Elyashiv (Hilchot Shabbat Bshabbato v. 1 ch. 2 fnt. 8) agrees. However, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 30:66 rules that trips for vacation may only board the ship on the first three days of the week even nowadays. ([http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/728838/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Eruvin_Shiur_#118 Rav Herschel Schachter] (min 77) seems to agree.) VeDaber Davar (Rav Shmuel Pinchasi, 1:25), Chut Sheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz, vol 1, pg 72), and [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1594 Daily Halacha by Rabbi Mansour] agree with Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata. Similarly, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1, pg 48) argues that one should not be lenient unless one frequently travels by boat and isn’t bothered by the travel. </ref> This is all on condition that the captain and crew are non-Jewish and that a majority of the passengers are non-Jewish. <Ref>
* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that if the crew or captain is Jewish and will work on [[Shabbat]] it’s forbidden to board the boat any day of the week. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 1, pg 48), Sh”t Yechave Daat 6:16, and VeDaber Davar (Rav Shmuel Pinchasi 1:22) agree.  
* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that if the crew or captain is Jewish and will work on [[Shabbat]] it’s forbidden to board the boat any day of the week. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 1, pg 48), Sh”t Yechave Daat 6:16, and VeDaber Davar (Rav Shmuel Pinchasi 1:22) agree.  
* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that it is only permissible if a majority of the passengers are non-Jewish, otherwise, the crew is working on [[Shabbat]] for the benefit of Jewish and would be forbidden (as [[Amirah LeNochri]]). Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 30:66 (and note 221) adds if the ship travels on a schedule and would travel with or without passengers then it would be permissible even if there’s a majority of Jews, but if without the Jewish passengers they would cancel the trip it wouldn’t be forbidden. </ref>
* Menuchat Ahava (vol 1, 1:2) writes that it is only permissible if a majority of the passengers are non-Jewish, otherwise, the crew is working on [[Shabbat]] for the benefit of Jewish and would be forbidden (as [[Amirah LeNochri]]). Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 30:66 (and note 221) adds if the ship travels on a schedule and would travel with or without passengers then it would be permissible even if there’s a majority of Jews, but if without the Jewish passengers they would cancel the trip it would be forbidden. </ref>
# If the ship is owned by Jews, consult your local Rabbi. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 33:66 (not 222) writes that one should consult a Rabbi. See also http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=5290 who expressly forbids if it's owned by Jews. </ref>
# If the ship is owned by Jews, consult your local Rabbi. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 33:66 (not 222) writes that one should consult a Rabbi. See also http://www.yeshiva.org.il/ask/eng/?id=5290 who expressly forbids if it's owned by Jews. </ref>


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