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# Even though certainly one should pray mincha before sunset, if the only options are to either pray mincha before sunset himself or with a minyan after sunset, Ashkenazim hold that one should pray oneself on time before sunset,<ref> Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that it is better to pray Mincha before shkiyah without a minyan than to pray with a minyan after shkiyah. In an extenuating circumstance he allows davening mincha until 3.25 mil after shekiya based on the Shulchan Aruch. [https://ph.yhb.org.il/02-24-04/#_te01ftn24_3 Peninei Halacha (Tefillah 24:4)] holds that one can follow the Mishna Brurah who is based on Rabbenu Tam and even though we do not follow Rabbenu Tam since many agree with him. However, Dirshu 233:22 quotes Chazon Ish (Ishrei Yosher Nezikin n. 94) that one can not daven mincha after sunset even in extenuating circumstances or after the fact. Rav Nevinsal on Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that someone who doesn't always follow Rabbenu Tam on ending Shabbat can not daven mincha after sunset even after the fact. Also, Avnei Darech 8:200 quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach as holding that one may not daven mincha after sunset. [http://www.eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=he&pageid=48&cat=1&newsletter=3705&article=7631 Bmarah Habazek 3:14] writes that one shouldn't daven after sunset and just daven tashlumin. [https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/58222 Rav Belsky] held that it is possible to daven up to 9 minutes after sunset based on Rav Moshe. See Igrot Moshe 1:24 who writes that one shouldn't pray mincha after sunset. See further Igrot Moshe 4:62.</ref> while Sephardim hold that one can wait to pray with the minyan as long as it is within 13.5 minutes after sunset.<Ref>However, Chacham Ben Zion Abba Shaul (cited in Ishei Yisroel page 296) and Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 5:22) say that it is preferable to pray with a minyan even if the minyan as long as they are praying within the first thirteen and a half minutes after sunset. Rabbi Meir Mazuz in Bayit Neeman 1:25 p. 146 s.v. miyhu agrees even though we don't accept Rabbeinu Tam since this case is an minhag to pray during Ben Hashemashot.</ref>
# Even though certainly one should pray mincha before sunset, if the only options are to either pray mincha before sunset himself or with a minyan after sunset, Ashkenazim hold that one should pray oneself on time before sunset,<ref> Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that it is better to pray Mincha before shkiyah without a minyan than to pray with a minyan after shkiyah. In an extenuating circumstance he allows davening mincha until 3.25 mil after shekiya based on the Shulchan Aruch. [https://ph.yhb.org.il/02-24-04/#_te01ftn24_3 Peninei Halacha (Tefillah 24:4)] holds that one can follow the Mishna Brurah who is based on Rabbenu Tam and even though we do not follow Rabbenu Tam since many agree with him. However, Dirshu 233:22 quotes Chazon Ish (Ishrei Yosher Nezikin n. 94) that one can not daven mincha after sunset even in extenuating circumstances or after the fact. Rav Nevinsal on Mishna Brurah 233:14 writes that someone who doesn't always follow Rabbenu Tam on ending Shabbat can not daven mincha after sunset even after the fact. Also, Avnei Darech 8:200 quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach as holding that one may not daven mincha after sunset. [http://www.eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=he&pageid=48&cat=1&newsletter=3705&article=7631 Bmarah Habazek 3:14] writes that one shouldn't daven after sunset and just daven tashlumin. [https://www.yeshiva.co/ask/58222 Rav Belsky] held that it is possible to daven up to 9 minutes after sunset based on Rav Moshe. See Igrot Moshe 1:24 who writes that one shouldn't pray mincha after sunset. See further Igrot Moshe 4:62.</ref> while Sephardim hold that one can wait to pray with the minyan as long as it is within 13.5 minutes after sunset.<Ref>However, Chacham Ben Zion Abba Shaul (cited in Ishei Yisroel page 296) and Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 5:22) say that it is preferable to pray with a minyan even if the minyan as long as they are praying within the first thirteen and a half minutes after sunset. Rabbi Meir Mazuz in Bayit Neeman 1:25 p. 146 s.v. miyhu agrees even though we don't accept Rabbeinu Tam since this case is an minhag to pray during Ben Hashemashot.</ref>
# Some poskim hold that one can start Mincha before sunset even if one knows that one will not finish until after sunset.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 7:34</ref>
# Some poskim hold that one can start Mincha before sunset even if one knows that one will not finish until after sunset.<ref>Yabia Omer OC 7:34</ref>
====Finishing After Sunset====
#If a person starts Shemona Esrei before sunset it is okay even if he finishes Shemona Esrei after sunset.<ref>Rav Hai Goan and Rav Sherira Goan in Teshuvot Hagoanim (Lik, 51), Aruch Hashulchan 110:5 based on Tosfot Brachot 7a s.v. shilmaleh, Yabia Omer OC 7:34</ref>


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