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# To uproot a veset kavuah the following conditions need to be met:  
# To uproot a veset kavuah the following conditions need to be met:  
## The day of the veset needs to pass three times without seeing blood and she needs to do a bedika during the veset. <ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=45 Shaar Tikkun Havestot 2 p. 47]), [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:19)], Chavot Daat 189:10, The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 325</ref>
## The day of the veset needs to pass three times without seeing blood and she needs to do a bedika during the veset. <ref>Raavad ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=45 Shaar Tikkun Havestot 2 p. 47]), [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 5:19)], Chavot Daat 189:10, The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 325</ref>
## A veset kavuah is only uprooted if it is replaced with another veset. If she missed 3 times on different days and doesn't establish a veset, practically she doesn't need to be concerned about veset but if she sees on it once it returns.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 189:15-6. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=32 Raavad (Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 34)] writes that a veset is only completely uprooted if it is replaced by another veset. If she missed 3 times practically she isn't concerned for the veset but unless she establishes a new veset if she sees on the old veset once, that veset returns. This is view of the Tur and Bet Yosef 189:15. The Shulchan Aruch 189:16 clarifies that this applies both to a haflagah and a veset hachodesh. The Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 324 and Darkei Tahara p. 72 agree.
## A veset kavuah is only uprooted if it is replaced with another veset. If she missed 3 times on different days and doesn't establish a veset, practically she doesn't need to be concerned about veset but if she sees on it once it returns.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 189:15-6. The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=8785&st=&pgnum=32 Raavad (Shaar Tikkun Vestot p. 34)] writes that a veset is only completely uprooted if it is replaced by another veset. If she missed 3 times practically she isn't concerned for the veset but unless she establishes a new veset if she sees on the old veset once, that veset returns. This is view of the Tur and Bet Yosef 189:15. The Shulchan Aruch 189:16 clarifies that this applies both to a haflagah and a veset hachodesh. The Badei Hashulchan 189:145, Laws of Niddah v. 1 p. 324, and Darkei Tahara p. 72 completely accept Shulchan Aruch.
* However, the Taz 189:28 argues that only for veset hachodesh do we say that missing one month doesn't uproot a veset but missing a month for haflagah is counted as uprooting it. The Sidrei Tahara 189:19 explains that the [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 6:5)] in fact holds that if she saw on 3 different days then the veset is uprooted completely and will never return. Nonetheless he accepts the ruling of Shulchan Aruch. Simla 189:33 disagrees with Shulchan Aruch based on the Ramban and Rashi. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai on Shulchan Aruch p. 127) agrees and suggests that even the Raavad doesn't hold like the Tur and Shulchan Aruch understood him. See there. </ref>
* However, the Taz 189:28 points out that the Ramban might not accept this halacha. The Sidrei Tahara 189:19 explains that the [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=40885&st=&pgnum=435 Ramban (Hilchot Niddah 6:5)] in fact holds that if she saw on 3 different days then the veset is uprooted completely and will never return. Nonetheless he accepts the ruling of Shulchan Aruch. Simla 189:33 disagrees with Shulchan Aruch based on the Ramban and Rashi. Rav Mordechai Willig (Am Mordechai on Shulchan Aruch p. 127) agrees and suggests that even the Raavad doesn't hold like the Tur and Shulchan Aruch understood him. See there. </ref>


==Seeing Earlier than the Veset==
==Seeing Earlier than the Veset==