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# Rav Hershel Schachter (Ten Minute Halacha - Practical Tevilas Keilim Issues by Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz, min. 8) says that in fact it is forbidden to drink from these bottles. Rather, when you open the bottle, you must pour the contents into another vessel before drinking. On the other hand, Rav Moshe (Igrot Moshe YD 2:40) writes that it is not an issue to drink from the Snapple bottle since the Jew who opens it is considered the one who created the vessel and then it would not require tevilah. Chacham Ben-Zion Abba Shaul (Or Litzion OC 1:24) agrees. Alternatively, R' Yechiel Yaakov Weinberg (Sridei Esh YD 2:29) suggests a different solution. He says when you buy the Snapple, just have in mind not to acquire the bottle and then you have no issue as you do not own the vessel and you can drink from the bottle. Rav Menashe Klein (Mishne Halachot 4:107) writes that it is permissible since one doesn’t have in mind to acquire the bottle because nobody wants to buy something prohibited. For a similar idea, see Yabia Omer 7:9:3. | # Rav Hershel Schachter (Ten Minute Halacha - Practical Tevilas Keilim Issues by Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz, min. 8) says that in fact it is forbidden to drink from these bottles. Rather, when you open the bottle, you must pour the contents into another vessel before drinking. On the other hand, Rav Moshe (Igrot Moshe YD 2:40) writes that it is not an issue to drink from the Snapple bottle since the Jew who opens it is considered the one who created the vessel and then it would not require tevilah. Chacham Ben-Zion Abba Shaul (Or Litzion OC 1:24) agrees. Alternatively, R' Yechiel Yaakov Weinberg (Sridei Esh YD 2:29) suggests a different solution. He says when you buy the Snapple, just have in mind not to acquire the bottle and then you have no issue as you do not own the vessel and you can drink from the bottle. Rav Menashe Klein (Mishne Halachot 4:107) writes that it is permissible since one doesn’t have in mind to acquire the bottle because nobody wants to buy something prohibited. For a similar idea, see Yabia Omer 7:9:3. | ||
===Tevilat Kelim on Aluminum=== | |||
===Tevilat Kelim on Aluminum Pans=== | |||
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# The Gemara (Avoda Zara 75b) learns from the pesukim by the war with Midyan that when one buys utensils from a non-Jew one must immerse them in a mikveh before using them. Metal utensils are obligated in [[Tevilat Kelim]].<ref> Shulchan Aruch YD 120:1</ref> Though aluminum is scientifically a metal, there is a discussion in the poskim whether aluminum is considered a metal according to the Torah.<ref>See Rav Yacov Kamenetsky in Emet LeYacov (YD 120:1). He concludes that you should dip without a beracha.</ref> In any event, our minhag is to be strict in this regard.<ref>Rav Hershel Schachter in a shiur on yutorah.org “Hilchos Tevilas Keilim”, Igrot Moshe YD 3:22</ref> | # The Gemara (Avoda Zara 75b) learns from the pesukim by the war with Midyan that when one buys utensils from a non-Jew one must immerse them in a mikveh before using them. Metal utensils are obligated in [[Tevilat Kelim]].<ref> Shulchan Aruch YD 120:1</ref> Though aluminum is scientifically a metal, there is a discussion in the poskim whether aluminum is considered a metal according to the Torah.<ref>See Rav Yacov Kamenetsky in Emet LeYacov (YD 120:1). He concludes that you should dip without a beracha.</ref> In any event, our minhag is to be strict in this regard.<ref>Rav Hershel Schachter in a shiur on yutorah.org “Hilchos Tevilas Keilim”, Igrot Moshe YD 3:22</ref> | ||
# Regarding aluminum tins, which are commonly only used once and then disposed of, there is a new point of discussion. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe YD 3:23) proves from the rishonim that utensils which don’t last for an extended period of time, such as a vessel made from a pumpkin, don’t accept tumah. He assumes that since temporary vessels don’t qualify as a vessel for tumah, it must not also with regards to tevilat kelim. Seemingly, this applies to aluminum pans.<ref>An article on [http://oukosher.org/passover/articles/immersing-ourselves-in-tevilat-keilim/ ou.org] writes that aluminum pans are exempt according to Rav Moshe. Mishneh Halachot 7:111 fundamentally agrees with Rav Moshe but writes that aluminum pans are obligated since it could be reused many times.</ref> Nonetheless, he adds, that vessels which could last a long time but are disposed of because they are cheap would certainly be obligated in tevilat kelim, even for a single use. Some, however, argue that even such vessels don’t qualify as a vessel.<ref>Chelkat Yacov YD 46, OC 152:2, Minchat Yitzchak 5:32</ref> See above [[#Disposable_Utensils]] for general disposable utensils. | # Regarding aluminum tins, which are commonly only used once and then disposed of, there is a new point of discussion. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe YD 3:23) proves from the rishonim that utensils which don’t last for an extended period of time, such as a vessel made from a pumpkin, don’t accept tumah. He assumes that since temporary vessels don’t qualify as a vessel for tumah, it must not also with regards to tevilat kelim. Seemingly, this applies to aluminum pans.<ref>An article on [http://oukosher.org/passover/articles/immersing-ourselves-in-tevilat-keilim/ ou.org] writes that aluminum pans are exempt according to Rav Moshe. Mishneh Halachot 7:111 fundamentally agrees with Rav Moshe but writes that aluminum pans are obligated since it could be reused many times.</ref> Nonetheless, he adds, that vessels which could last a long time but are disposed of because they are cheap would certainly be obligated in tevilat kelim, even for a single use. Some, however, argue that even such vessels don’t qualify as a vessel.<ref>Chelkat Yacov YD 46, OC 152:2, Minchat Yitzchak 5:32</ref> See above [[#Disposable_Utensils]] for general disposable utensils. | ||
====Disposable Grills==== | |||
# Some hold that disposable grills don't need tevilat kelim.<ref>Avnei Darech 9:105 writes that since the way people generally use the dispoable grills is to use it once and then throw it out because it is difficult to clean it is considered a utensil that can only be used once and is exempt from tevilat kelim. He is relying upon the leniency of Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe YD 3:23 regarding tin pans and expands upon it. He adds that if the way of the world changes and it is easy to clean and people do reuse them then it would require tevilah.</ref> Others hold that they are obligated in tevilat kelim. <ref>Rav Yisrael Belksy in Shulchan Halevi 1:24:33:5 disposable grills made from strong metal need tevilah without a bracha. Also, in Avnei Darech he copies a letter he received in response from the author of Sh"t Michkarei Aretz who disagreed with him and holds that disposable grills which are sturdy and can be reused and just aren't for convenience need tevilah.</ref> | |||
==Electric appliances== | ==Electric appliances== | ||
