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== Mil according to Shulchan Aruch ==
== Mil according to Shulchan Aruch ==
Unlike Dr. Levy, Derech Yeshara p. 171 proves that the Trumat Hadeshen and Shulchan Aruch actually hold that the mil is 18 minutes since the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49438&pgnum=78 Leket Yosher p. 79], the student of the Trumat Hadeshen, says that the 40 mil is measured from Olot until Tzeit.
Unlike Dr. Levy, Derech Yeshara p. 171 proves that the Trumat Hadeshen and Shulchan Aruch actually hold that the mil is 18 minutes since the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49438&pgnum=78 Leket Yosher p. 79], the student of the Trumat Hadeshen, says that the 40 mil is measured from Olot until Tzeit.
To clarify, Dr. Levy notes that the Gra's point that it is impossible to have 12 60-minute hours from Olot to Tzet during the equinox season and so 12 hours certainly refers to Netz until Shekiya is very compelling. Therefore, he claims that in fact the Trumat Hadeshen meant that there were 12 seasonal hours counted from Olot until Tzet. That being the case, the 40 mil spanning from Olot until Tzet would indeed be 22.5 minutes. Dr. Levy in fact says that this is indeed the opinion of the Trumat Hadeshen and Shulchan Aruch who adopts his approach. Even though the Gra vehemently disagreed with the approach of the Trumat Hadeshen calling it a great mistake, a wonderment, and a blunder, perhaps he too just meant that he confused people in how he wrote. Derech Yeshara disagrees. For one, Leket Yosher p. 79c certainly does not accept the Gra's interpretation in the Trumat Hadeshen, though it is not clear how he would answer the Gra's question. He seems to hold of the 18 minute mil and also calculate the 40 mil from Olot until Tzet. The Raah Brachot 26a s.v. plag, Shitah Mikubeset Brachot 27a s.v. mdrav, and Avudraham (Kriyat Shema) who write that 4 mil is an hour and a fifth imply that the mil is 18 minutes and at the same calculate 40 mil from Olot until Tzet.
To clarify, Dr. Levy notes that the Gra's point that it is impossible to have 12 60-minute hours from Olot to Tzet during the equinox season and so 12 hours certainly refers to Netz until Shekiya is very compelling. Therefore, he claims that in fact the Trumat Hadeshen meant that there were 12 seasonal hours counted from Olot until Tzet. That being the case, the 40 mil spanning from Olot until Tzet would indeed be 22.5 minutes. Dr. Levy in fact says that this is indeed the opinion of the Trumat Hadeshen and Shulchan Aruch who adopts his approach. Even though the Gra vehemently disagreed with the approach of the Trumat Hadeshen calling it a great mistake, a wonderment, and a blunder, perhaps he too just meant that he confused people in how he wrote. Derech Yeshara disagrees. For one, Leket Yosher p. 79c certainly does not accept the Gra's interpretation in the Trumat Hadeshen, though it is not clear how he would answer the Gra's question. He seems to hold of the 18 minute mil and also calculate the 40 mil from Olot until Tzet. The Raah Brachot 26a s.v. plag and Shitah Mikubeset Brachot 27a s.v. mdrav who write that 4 mil is an hour and a fifth imply that the mil is 18 minutes and at the same calculate 40 mil from Olot until Tzet. Avudraham (Kriyat Shema) implies this as well.
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