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*In the 2nd edition of Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchasa 42:63 he was strict regarding materials that don’t allow liquid through such as plastic, nylon, or aluminum liners inside chulent or crock pots, however in the 3rd edition there’s an explicit retraction in 1:87 quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman to permit in all circumstances. | *In the 2nd edition of Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchasa 42:63 he was strict regarding materials that don’t allow liquid through such as plastic, nylon, or aluminum liners inside chulent or crock pots, however in the 3rd edition there’s an explicit retraction in 1:87 quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman to permit in all circumstances. | ||
*Meor [[Shabbat]] 3 pg 519, and Menuchat Ahavah 1:3(27) are somewhat strict on the issue, the Minhag is to be lenient on this issue.</ref> | *Meor [[Shabbat]] 3 pg 519, and Menuchat Ahavah 1:3(27) are somewhat strict on the issue, the Minhag is to be lenient on this issue.</ref> | ||
# Submerging a bottle of liquid into a container of hot water is similar to covering it with a cloth. Thus, before Shabbat this is permissible. On Shabbat, if the container | # Submerging a bottle of liquid into a container of hot water is similar to covering it with a cloth. Thus, before Shabbat this is permissible. On Shabbat, if the bottle is not totally submerged this would be permitted for Ashkenazim. However, the water in the container must be such that the liquid in the bottle will never reach ''yad soledes bo,'' or be a ''kli sheini'', to avoid the problem of ''bishul''. If there are dry goods in the bottle these conditions do not apply. However, according to the Sephardim, who forbid ''hatmana'' even when partially submerged, this would be forbidden.<ref>Mishna Brurah 258:2, Dirshu Footnote 258:7. See Shulchan Aruch 253:1 and Rema there regarding if it is considered hatmana when not totally covered. Chazon Ish 37:19 is stringent like the Shulchan Aruch. However, regarding the case of the bottle, the Chazon Ish 37:32 writes that there is no hatmana when it comes to submerging something in water. The upshot is that the Chazon Ish will be more lenient in our case, and one could totally submerge the bottle. </ref> | ||
===Hot Plate Blanket=== | ===Hot Plate Blanket=== | ||
[[File:Plata blanket.jpg|250px|thumb|right|According to Sephardim it is forbidden and according to Ashkenazim it is permitted if the sides of the pots are clearly and recognizable partially exposed (unlike this picture).]] | [[File:Plata blanket.jpg|250px|thumb|right|According to Sephardim it is forbidden and according to Ashkenazim it is permitted if the sides of the pots are clearly and recognizable partially exposed (unlike this picture).]] | ||
