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## Some people eat only dairy on Shavuot in order to fulfill the minhag. Many disapprove of this practice.<ref>The Darkei Teshuva disapproves of this practice because he accepts the view of the Rambam that there is an obligation to eat meat on [[Yom Tov]]. See note 1 above.</ref> | ## Some people eat only dairy on Shavuot in order to fulfill the minhag. Many disapprove of this practice.<ref>The Darkei Teshuva disapproves of this practice because he accepts the view of the Rambam that there is an obligation to eat meat on [[Yom Tov]]. See note 1 above.</ref> | ||
## Some people eat dairy for the nighttime meal and meat for the daytime meal. Such was the minhag of some gedolim.<ref>This was the practice of the Steipler (Orchot Rabbeinu v. 2 p. 98). The Darkei Teshuva comments that this is reasonable according to the Sha’agat Aryeh’s (Siman 68) view that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] is only d’rabanan at night; however, others disagree with the Sha’agat Aryeh. Otzrot Yosef (Rav Dovid Yosef 13:7) quotes this as a minhag. Rav Hershel Schachter (Bikvei HaTzon p. 81) suggests that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] follows the schedule of [[Korbanot]] for which the night follows the day, implying that eating meat for Simchat [[Yom Tov]] does not apply the first night. Therefore, he said (oral communication) that if one enjoys dairy, one may have a dairy meal for the night of [[Yom Tov]]. This approach is supported by the Sfat Emet ([[Sukkah]] 48a), who writes that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] can be fulfilled with one meat meal, either during the night or day. Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Pesachim Shiur 110, min 40-50) agrees with this reasoning. The Radiance of Shabbos p. 163 fnt. 33 cites Rav Chaim Pinchas Sheinberg as holding that it is only necessary to eat meat during the day. | ## Some people eat dairy for the nighttime meal and meat for the daytime meal. Such was the minhag of some gedolim.<ref>This was the practice of the Steipler (Orchot Rabbeinu v. 2 p. 98). The Darkei Teshuva comments that this is reasonable according to the Sha’agat Aryeh’s (Siman 68) view that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] is only d’rabanan at night; however, others disagree with the Sha’agat Aryeh. Otzrot Yosef (Rav Dovid Yosef 13:7) quotes this as a minhag. Rav Hershel Schachter (Bikvei HaTzon p. 81) suggests that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] follows the schedule of [[Korbanot]] for which the night follows the day, implying that eating meat for Simchat [[Yom Tov]] does not apply the first night. Therefore, he said (oral communication) that if one enjoys dairy, one may have a dairy meal for the night of [[Yom Tov]]. This approach is supported by the Sfat Emet ([[Sukkah]] 48a), who writes that Simchat [[Yom Tov]] can be fulfilled with one meat meal, either during the night or day. Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Pesachim Shiur 110, min 40-50) agrees with this reasoning. The Radiance of Shabbos p. 163 fnt. 33 cites Rav Chaim Pinchas Sheinberg as holding that it is only necessary to eat meat during the day. | ||
* Tangentially, Rav Ovadia Yosef in Meor Yisrael (Beitzah 36b v. 2 p. 313) writes that Shulchan Aruch 546:3 might also hold that simcha at night is only derabbanan. Pitchei Teshuva YD 341:13 quotes the VShav Hakohen 95 who argues that there is a mitzvah of simcha deoritta even at night. He proves his contention from Rambam (Chagiga 2:13) unlike the | * Tangentially, Rav Ovadia Yosef in Meor Yisrael (Beitzah 36b v. 2 p. 313) writes that Shulchan Aruch 546:3 might also hold that simcha at night is only derabbanan. Pitchei Teshuva YD 341:13 quotes the [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=746&pgnum=393 VShav Hakohen 95] who argues that there is a mitzvah of simcha deoritta even at night. He proves his contention from Rambam (Chagiga 2:13) unlike the Mahari Kurkus (Rambam Chagiga 2:13). Rashbam (Pesachim 108b s.v. yedey yayin yatzah (2)) implies that he agrees with Rambam that there's a rabbinic mitzvah of simcha on Yom Tov. Emek Bracha p. 108 quotes Rav Chaim as distinguishing between simcha which does apply the first night and the obligation to bring a korban shlamim which does not apply to the first night.</ref> | ||
## Within the same meal some eat dairy and then after washing their mouths out with a liquid and food and washing their hands eat meat. Classically this is the Ashkenazic minhag.<ref>Rama 494:3, Magen Avraham, Mishna Brurah, Aruch Hashulchan, and Chayey Adam. However, the Shlah and Bear Mayim Chayim disapprove of this minhag since it is in violation of the Zohar that one may not eat milk and meat in the same meal or same hour.</ref> The practice is specifically to use one challah for the milk part of the meal and another challah for the meat prat of the meal in order to commemorate the Korban brought int he Bet Hamikdash on Shavuot of two loaves.<ref>Rama 494:3</ref> | ## Within the same meal some eat dairy and then after washing their mouths out with a liquid and food and washing their hands eat meat. Classically this is the Ashkenazic minhag.<ref>Rama 494:3, Magen Avraham, Mishna Brurah, Aruch Hashulchan, and Chayey Adam. However, the Shlah and Bear Mayim Chayim disapprove of this minhag since it is in violation of the Zohar that one may not eat milk and meat in the same meal or same hour.</ref> The practice is specifically to use one challah for the milk part of the meal and another challah for the meat prat of the meal in order to commemorate the Korban brought int he Bet Hamikdash on Shavuot of two loaves.<ref>Rama 494:3</ref> | ||
## Some eat a dairy meal, conclude with Birkat Hamazon, and then a meat meal.<ref>Darkei Teshuva, Pri Megadim M"Z 89:3. The Torat Chaim (Chullin 83a) writes that it is better to abrogate the minhag of eating dairy rather than have meat after eating dairy, which is forbidden according to the Zohar. The Darkei Teshuva responds that in order to fulfill this minhag, one may be lenient against the Zohar. Mishna Brurah 494:16 notes that one need not make [[Birkat HaMazon]] as long as he cleanses his mouth with bread and water as well as washes his hands (S”A Y.D. 89:2).</ref> | ## Some eat a dairy meal, conclude with Birkat Hamazon, and then a meat meal.<ref>Darkei Teshuva, Pri Megadim M"Z 89:3. The Torat Chaim (Chullin 83a) writes that it is better to abrogate the minhag of eating dairy rather than have meat after eating dairy, which is forbidden according to the Zohar. The Darkei Teshuva responds that in order to fulfill this minhag, one may be lenient against the Zohar. Mishna Brurah 494:16 notes that one need not make [[Birkat HaMazon]] as long as he cleanses his mouth with bread and water as well as washes his hands (S”A Y.D. 89:2).</ref> | ||
