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# The Ashkenazic minhag is to make [[HaMotzei]] on Matzeh all year round <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 20), Tzitz Eliezer 11:19. [[Shevet Halevi]] 1: in the footnotes to SA 168:8 says one should be machmir and eat as part of a meal. Rav Tzvi | # The Ashkenazic minhag is to make [[HaMotzei]] on Matzeh all year round <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 20), Tzitz Eliezer 11:19. [[Shevet Halevi]] 1: in the footnotes to SA 168:8 says one should be machmir and eat as part of a meal. Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank Sh"t Har Tzvi OC 91 says on the small [[matza]]-like crackers to say [[mezonot]], and only say hamotzi if you are kovea seuda on [[matza]]. </ref> whereas the Sephardic minhag is to make [[Mezonot]] and [[Al HaMichya]] on [[Matzah]] all year round except for [[Pesach]] when one makes [[HaMotzei]] and [[Birkat HaMazon]].<ref> Chazon Ovadia [[Berachot]] page 61, Sh"t Yechave Daat 3:12, Sh"t Shemesh U'magen OC 1:34. This is in accordance with the definition of the Aruch s.v. Kesen, quoted by Bet Yosef 168:8 quoting Rav Hai Gaon that pat haba bikisnin is a hard, cracker-like bread, quoted in SA 168:8. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=146562 Rav Dovid Yosef] notes that his father, Rav Ovadia Yosef, for long periods of time recited hamotzei on matzah because it was the only food he could eat because of his health, however, for everyone else the bracha is mezonot. | ||
* Rabbi Baruch Simon in Hamashbir v. 2 p. 42 writes that he heard directly from Chacham Ovadia that he would recite hamotzei without exempting it with bread. He cites that Siman Bracha 1 p. 18 by Rabbi Pinchas Raz writes explicitly the same thing. However, Rav Dovid Yosef in Orchot Maran 13:8 quotes that Rav Ovadia would exempt it with other bread but always held it is mezonot according to the strict law. He said he checked with him just a few months before he passed away. Rav Shimon Lalush (Mishnat Yosef 5776 Sivan-Tamuz p. 97) writes that Rav Yitzchak Yosef said that you can't extrapolate from Rav Ovadia did since for medical reasons he couldn't eat so much bread so he ate matzah and since it was his primary bread he made hamotzei.</ref> Nonetheless, Sephardic authorities add that (for all year-round besides [[Pesach]]) those who want to make [[HaMotzei]] on [[Matzah]] when eaten as a meal (even without 216 grams) can do so and that a God fearing person would always eat [[Matzah]] in a meal with real bread.<Ref> Vezot HaBracha (Chapter 3, pg 20), Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 168:4), Chazon Ovadyah ([[Brachot]] pg 61), Sh"t Yechave Daat 3:12, Chida in Machazik Beracha 158:5. </ref> | |||
# On Motzei [[Pesach]] before people buy back their chametz, the bracha on [[Matzah]] is still [[HaMotzei]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah ([[Brachot]] p 64) </ref> | # On Motzei [[Pesach]] before people buy back their chametz, the bracha on [[Matzah]] is still [[HaMotzei]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah ([[Brachot]] p 64) </ref> | ||
# If the last day of [[Pesach]] falls out on Friday, then the bracha on [[Matzah]] for the [[Shabbat]] immediately following [[Pesach]] is [[Hamotzei]].<ref>Or Letzion (vol 3:9:4) </ref> | # If the last day of [[Pesach]] falls out on Friday, then the bracha on [[Matzah]] for the [[Shabbat]] immediately following [[Pesach]] is [[Hamotzei]].<ref>Or Letzion (vol 3:9:4) </ref> | ||
