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# The Ashkenazic and Sephardic custom is to refrain from meat, poultry, and wine during the [[nine days]] | # The Ashkenazic and Sephardic custom is to refrain from meat, poultry, and wine during the [[nine days]]. <ref>The gemara Baba Batra 60b quotes the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael Ben Elisha that after the destruction of the Beit HaMikdash, it would have been appropriate for the rabbis to ban eating meat and drinking wine in order to properly mourn. However, since most of the congregation would not be able to abide by this, the rabbis never made it. Biur HaGra OC 551:9 writes that this is the source for refraining from eating meat and drinking wine prior to Tisha B'Av, that although it is impossible to ban eating meat and drinking wine throughout the year, it is possible to refrain from meat and wine for a short period of time. The Gemara in Taanit 30a discuss the prohibition of eating meat during the seudat hamafseket prior to tisha b'av. Rambam Hilchot Taaniot 5:6 says that the custom is to extend the prohibition beyond that meal. He says that some don't eat meat during the week of tisha b'av, and some don't eat from [[rosh chodesh]] av and onward. Shulchan Aruch 551:9 writes that there are three customs about not eating meat and drinking wine; some refrain only for the week on [[Tisha BeAv]], some refrain for the [[nine days]] (from [[Rosh Chodesh]] Av), some refrain for the whole three weeks.</ref>Ashkenazim include [[Rosh Chodesh]] in this prohibition,<ref>Mishna Brurah 551:58 writes that the Ashkenazic custom is not to eat meat or drink wine for the [[nine days]] including [[Rosh Chodesh]] Av but excluding [[Shabbat]] (Mishna Brurah 551:59). This is also written in the [http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5762/devarim.html Weekly Halacha by Rabbi Neustadt].</ref> while Sephardim are lenient regarding the day of [[Rosh Chodesh]] itself and some Sephardim are strict. <Ref> Sh"t Yechave Daat 1:41, Moed Likol Chai 9:15, [http://www.doresh-tzion.co.il/QAShowAnswer.aspx?qaid=97492 Rav Bentzion Mussafi], and Kaf Hachayim 551:125 write that the Sephardic custom is to refrain from eating meat and wine during the [[nine days]], but on [[Rosh Chodesh]] the minhag is to be lenient. However, they add that some are strict. See also Chazon Ovadyah (Arba Taniyot pg 169), [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=2184 Rabbi Mansour on dailyhalacha.com], and Halachot and History of The [[Three Weeks]] (by Rabbi Shlomo Churba, pg 37) who all write that the Sephardic custom is not to eat meat, poultry or wine in the [[nine days]]. </ref> | ||
# Some say that there is what to rely on to have meat leftovers from [[Shabbat]] during the [[nine days]], while others forbid. <Ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Arba Taniyot pg 177) writes that there is what to rely on, as does the Torat Moadim 5:46. Birkei Yosef 551:6 says that in order to encourage proper for fulfillment of the meal itself we allow the leftovers to be eaten later. However, the [http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5762/devarim.html Weekly Halacha by Rabbi Neustadt] quotes Sh"t Igrot Moshe 4:21(4) who forbids (see there). Aruch Hashulchan 551:24 also forbids it, also see Piskei Teshuvot 551:34. Kaf Hachayim 551:144 says that for melave malka one is permitted to eat meat leftovers as long as he doesn't prepare extra for [[shabbat]] with the intention of having leftovers. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=950 Rabbi Eli Mansour] quotes that Rav Chaim Palachi allows this while Chacham Benzion Abba Shaul says it's better not to. Rabbi Mansour also says that for the remainder of the week kids can eat it lechatchila and if adults eat it one cannot rebuke them. Piskei Teshuvot 551:34 says there are some poskim who permit eating meat for melave malka for someone who usually eats meat for melave malka. </ref> | # Some say that there is what to rely on to have meat leftovers from [[Shabbat]] during the [[nine days]], while others forbid. <Ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Arba Taniyot pg 177) writes that there is what to rely on, as does the Torat Moadim 5:46. Birkei Yosef 551:6 says that in order to encourage proper for fulfillment of the meal itself we allow the leftovers to be eaten later. However, the [http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5762/devarim.html Weekly Halacha by Rabbi Neustadt] quotes Sh"t Igrot Moshe 4:21(4) who forbids (see there). Aruch Hashulchan 551:24 also forbids it, also see Piskei Teshuvot 551:34. Kaf Hachayim 551:144 says that for melave malka one is permitted to eat meat leftovers as long as he doesn't prepare extra for [[shabbat]] with the intention of having leftovers. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=950 Rabbi Eli Mansour] quotes that Rav Chaim Palachi allows this while Chacham Benzion Abba Shaul says it's better not to. Rabbi Mansour also says that for the remainder of the week kids can eat it lechatchila and if adults eat it one cannot rebuke them. Piskei Teshuvot 551:34 says there are some poskim who permit eating meat for melave malka for someone who usually eats meat for melave malka. </ref> | ||
# One who needs to eat meat for health reasons such as a child, pregnant woman, nursing woman, or an elderly or sick person is permitted to eat meat, but if he can eat chicken that is preferable. <ref> Mishna Brurah 551:64. Yechave Daat 1:41 adds that if they do, they are not required to make a [[hatarat nedarim]]. </ref> | # One who needs to eat meat for health reasons such as a child, pregnant woman, nursing woman, or an elderly or sick person is permitted to eat meat, but if he can eat chicken that is preferable. <ref> Mishna Brurah 551:64. Yechave Daat 1:41 adds that if they do, they are not required to make a [[hatarat nedarim]]. </ref> | ||
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# Although the custom is not to eat meat or drink wine during the [[nine days]], stores that sell meat or wine may continue to sell meat or wine because someone who is permitted to eat it, such as a sick person or for a seudat mitzvah may need it. <ref> Iggerot Moshe 4:112 </ref> One is permitted to leave his meat restaurant open during the [[nine days]], because the people who are eating meat during the [[nine days]], without the availability of kosher meat, may go to a non-kosher restaurant but he should preferably serve only chicken. <ref> Yechave Daat 3:38. For more on whether a meat restaurant may remain open, see [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Restaurants%20Serving%20Meat%20During%20the%20Nine%20Days.htm Rabbi Chaim Jachter: Restaurants Serving Meat During the Nine Days] </ref> | # Although the custom is not to eat meat or drink wine during the [[nine days]], stores that sell meat or wine may continue to sell meat or wine because someone who is permitted to eat it, such as a sick person or for a seudat mitzvah may need it. <ref> Iggerot Moshe 4:112 </ref> One is permitted to leave his meat restaurant open during the [[nine days]], because the people who are eating meat during the [[nine days]], without the availability of kosher meat, may go to a non-kosher restaurant but he should preferably serve only chicken. <ref> Yechave Daat 3:38. For more on whether a meat restaurant may remain open, see [http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/Restaurants%20Serving%20Meat%20During%20the%20Nine%20Days.htm Rabbi Chaim Jachter: Restaurants Serving Meat During the Nine Days] </ref> | ||
# One may taste the meat food on erev [[shabbat]] during the [[nine days]] but should try not to swallow any meat ingredients. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kihilchita 42:61 since the Magen Avraham 250:1 quotes the Arizal that this is part of the mitzva of kavod [[shabbat]] to taste the food to make sure it tastes good. </ref> | # One may taste the meat food on erev [[shabbat]] during the [[nine days]] but should try not to swallow any meat ingredients. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kihilchita 42:61 since the Magen Avraham 250:1 quotes the Arizal that this is part of the mitzva of kavod [[shabbat]] to taste the food to make sure it tastes good. </ref> | ||
# One should not refrain from eating meat on Shabbat during the nine days, or even if Tisha B'av falls out on Shabbat and is pushed off until sunday, one should eat meat on that Shabbat.<ref>Mishna Brura 551:59 </ref> | |||
# One is permitted to buy meat and wine during the [[Nine days]] for use after the [[Nine days]] if there is a sale, or he won't have time afterwards. <ref> Iggerot Moshe 4:112 </ref> | # One is permitted to buy meat and wine during the [[Nine days]] for use after the [[Nine days]] if there is a sale, or he won't have time afterwards. <ref> Iggerot Moshe 4:112 </ref> | ||
# One is permitted to eat food that was cooked in meat pots, as long as no meat was cooked with it, and one cannot taste the taste of the meat in his food. <ref> Mishna Brurah 551:63, Kaf Hachayim 551:142, Orchot Chaim 31, Nitei Gavriel 38:5. Shaar Hatziyun 551:68 writes that even if a small piece of meat that will not be tasted fell into a dish, it may still be eaten. </ref> Parve food which looks like meat may be eaten during the Nine Days. <ref>Nitei Gavriel 38:6</ref> | # One is permitted to eat food that was cooked in meat pots, as long as no meat was cooked with it, and one cannot taste the taste of the meat in his food. <ref> Mishna Brurah 551:63, Kaf Hachayim 551:142, Orchot Chaim 31, Nitei Gavriel 38:5. Shaar Hatziyun 551:68 writes that even if a small piece of meat that will not be tasted fell into a dish, it may still be eaten. </ref> Parve food which looks like meat may be eaten during the Nine Days. <ref>Nitei Gavriel 38:6</ref> | ||
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# Even somebody who normally uses a cup of wine for [[Birkat HaMazon]], should not during the [[nine days]] except for on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Rama 551:10 with Mishna Brurah 551:69, Kaf Hachayim 551:152. </ref> | # Even somebody who normally uses a cup of wine for [[Birkat HaMazon]], should not during the [[nine days]] except for on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Rama 551:10 with Mishna Brurah 551:69, Kaf Hachayim 551:152. </ref> | ||
# One may eat meat on [[Shabbat]] during the Nine Days.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 552:10</ref>If one began a meal on [[Shabbat]] and it continued into the night, one may continue to have meat, however, some are strict in this situation.<Ref>Nitei Gavriel 38:4</ref> | # One may eat meat on [[Shabbat]] during the Nine Days.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 552:10</ref>If one began a meal on [[Shabbat]] and it continued into the night, one may continue to have meat, however, some are strict in this situation.<Ref>Nitei Gavriel 38:4</ref> | ||
# Although the custom is not to drink wine during the nine days, one may drink beer, whiskey, liquor, cognac and arak. <ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=2730 Drinking Liquor, Beer and Cognac During the Nine Days] by Rabbi Eli Mansour </ref> | # Although the custom is not to drink wine during the nine days, one may drink beer, whiskey, liquor, cognac and arak. <ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=2730 Drinking Liquor, Beer and Cognac During the Nine Days] by Rabbi Eli Mansour, Ish Matzliach footnotes to Mishna Brura 551:9:note 5 </ref> | ||
===Seudat Mitzva=== | ===Seudat Mitzva=== | ||
# One may eat meat at a meal for a mitzvah such as the meal of a [[Brit Milah]] and this includes the relatives and friend invited to the meal however, it doesn’t include those who just walk in to eat. <Ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Arba Taniyot pg 196-7). Rama 551:10 allows eating meat for a seudat mitzva, and the Taz there explains that only someone would normally be invited to this seuda, may partake in this meat seuda during this time. If the bris is scheduled to be performed before the [[nine days]], even if it has already been postponed, Shaare Teshuva 551:10 says you cannpot postpone any further to allow eating meat, and one who does this is considered someone who breaches fences. </ref> | # One may eat meat at a meal for a mitzvah such as the meal of a [[Brit Milah]] and this includes the relatives and friend invited to the meal however, it doesn’t include those who just walk in to eat. <Ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Arba Taniyot pg 196-7). Rama 551:10 allows eating meat for a seudat mitzva, and the Taz there explains that only someone would normally be invited to this seuda, may partake in this meat seuda during this time. If the bris is scheduled to be performed before the [[nine days]], even if it has already been postponed, Shaare Teshuva 551:10 says you cannpot postpone any further to allow eating meat, and one who does this is considered someone who breaches fences. </ref> | ||
