https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Molid&feed=atom&action=historyMolid - Revision history2024-03-29T11:44:58ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Molid&diff=31890&oldid=prevYitzchakSultan1 at 17:35, 13 July 20232023-07-13T17:35:38Z<p></p>
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</table>YitzchakSultan1https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Molid&diff=31117&oldid=prevUnknown user: /* Using whipped cream */2022-12-18T17:39:22Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Using whipped cream</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one really needs them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some permit making ice for Shabbat under all circumstances.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref>Or Letzion 2:32:3, [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com. Or Lezion explains that there's no nolad while changing the form of a liquid to solid or vice versa for Sephardim (SA O.C. 318:16).</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one really needs them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. A Guide to Practical Halacha (Shabbat v. 3 p. 155 n. 58) quoting Rav Moshe Feinstein agrees</ins>. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some permit making ice for Shabbat under all circumstances.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref>Or Letzion 2:32:3, [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com. Or Lezion explains that there's no nolad while changing the form of a liquid to solid or vice versa for Sephardim (SA O.C. 318:16).</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. <ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Daily Halacha], Kaf Hachayim 320:60, Yalkut Yosef 320:27. Sh"t Lev Chaim 2:192 is stringent however. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. <ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Daily Halacha], Kaf Hachayim 320:60, Yalkut Yosef 320:27. Sh"t Lev Chaim 2:192 is stringent however. </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one really needs them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some permit making ice for Shabbat under all circumstances.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref>Or Letzion 2:32:3, [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com. Or Lezion explains that there's no nolad while changing the form of a liquid to solid or vice versa for Sephardim (SA O.C. 318:16).</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one really needs them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some permit making ice for Shabbat under all circumstances.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref>Or Letzion 2:32:3, [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com. Or Lezion explains that there's no nolad while changing the form of a liquid to solid or vice versa for Sephardim (SA O.C. 318:16).</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may remove food from the freezer in order to thaw in order to eat it on [[Shabbat]] but not if it won’t be ready until after [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 10:5, 10 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may remove food from the freezer in order to thaw in order to eat it on [[Shabbat]] but not if it won’t be ready until after [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:5, 10 </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># It’s permissible to melt ice cream in order to eat it as long as one doesn’t put in a place of 113 degrees. <ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 10:8 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># It’s permissible to melt ice cream in order to eat it as long as one doesn’t put in a place of 113 degrees. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 10:8 </ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice cream from powder on [[Shabbat]] unless it’s a thin mixture, one puts the ingredients in the reverse order than usual, and one stirs it differently. <ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 8:9, 10:6 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice cream from powder on [[Shabbat]] unless it’s a thin mixture, one puts the ingredients in the reverse order than usual, and one stirs it differently. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 8:9, 10:6 </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># A may not place hot (over 113 degree) solid food or a Kli Rishon in cold water. However, one may place a Kli Sheni into cold water. <Ref>Shemirat <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Shabbat<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>KeHilchata 1:73 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># A may not place hot (over 113 degree) solid food or a Kli Rishon in cold water. However, one may place a Kli Sheni into cold water. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:73 </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># Some poskim hold that it is forbidden to use whipped topping or whipped cream from a can on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 371), Halachically Speaking (vol 4, Issue 16, pg 5) quoting Rav Yisrael Belsky (also in Shulchan Halevi 9:9), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen page 169 in the name of Rav Menashe Klein and Rav Moshe Stern. </ref> Others however, disagree. <ref> Rivevot Ephraim 8:158:11 quotes that Rav Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg, Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yaakov Yisrael Fisher were lenient and allowed it. Rabbi Aharon Felder (Rishumei Ahron vol. 2 page 30) writes that this was the opinion of Rav Moshe Feinstein. [http://eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=en&pageid=48&cat=7&newsletter=996&article=3786 Rav Daniel Mann] quotes that Rav Mordechai Willig is lenient because the change from thick liquid to a foam isn't enough of a change to be considered molid. see [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/761831/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Ten_Minute_Halacha_-_Ice_Cubes_and_Whipped_Cream_on_Shabbos Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] for an elaboration </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># Some poskim hold that it is forbidden to use whipped topping or whipped cream from a can on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 371), Halachically Speaking (vol 4, Issue 16, pg 5) quoting Rav Yisrael Belsky (also in Shulchan Halevi 9:9), [[Shabbos]] Kitchen page 169 in the name of Rav Menashe Klein and Rav Moshe Stern. </ref> Others however, disagree. <ref> Rivevot Ephraim 8:158:11 quotes that Rav Chaim Pinchas Scheinberg, Rav Dovid Feinstein and Rav Yaakov Yisrael Fisher were lenient and allowed it. Rabbi Aharon Felder (Rishumei Ahron vol. 2 page 30) writes that this was the opinion of Rav Moshe Feinstein. [http://eretzhemdah.org/newsletterArticle.asp?lang=en&pageid=48&cat=7&newsletter=996&article=3786 Rav Daniel Mann] quotes that Rav Mordechai Willig is lenient because the change from thick liquid to a foam isn't enough of a change to be considered molid. see [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/761831/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Ten_Minute_Halacha_-_Ice_Cubes_and_Whipped_Cream_on_Shabbos Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] for an elaboration </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice into a cup of water and have <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it </del>melt on <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">its </del>own <ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, Shulchan Aruch 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cubes </ins>into a cup of water and have <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">them </ins>melt on <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">their </ins>own<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</ins><ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, Shulchan Aruch 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, Yalkut Yosef 320:31</ref></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Brurah 320:39, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:25) </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"># It is best not to place the ice cubes in the empty cup and then pour water on top of the ice to chill or cool the water since doing so is inevitably going to melt the ice.<ref>Piskei Teshuvot 320:14 writes that it is best not to place ice in a cup and then pour water on top of it to cool the water since pouring the water melts the ice. In fnt. 154 he cites the Migdanot Eliyahu 2:105 who isn't certain if it is permitted. Shabbat Khalacha 17:3 is also strict. See Minchat Shay 320:9. Rav Mordechai Eliyahu in Sh"t Maamar Mordechai 4:83 is lenient.</ins></ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">can’t do without </del>them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">are lenient</del>.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com </ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">really needs </ins>them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55, and Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].</ref> Some <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">permit making ice for Shabbat under all circumstances</ins>.<ref> The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe Feinstein that you can make ice because it has no permanence. Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24. </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Or Letzion 2:32:3, </ins>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Or Lezion explains that there's no nolad while changing the form of a liquid to solid or vice versa for Sephardim (SA O.C. 318:16).</ins></ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice into a cup of water and have it melt on its own <ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, Shulchan Aruch 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may not crush ice on [[Shabbat]], but one may place ice into a cup of water and have it melt on its own <ref>Gemara [[Shabbat]] 51b, Shulchan Aruch 320:9, 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 364, 368), Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 1:74</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Brurah 320:39 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may walk on ice or snow on [[Shabbat]] and it is not a concern of melting ice. <ref> Rabbi Mansour on [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Dailyhalacha.com], 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 368), Mishna Brurah 320:39<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 3 Sechita Bshaar Dvarim 320:25) </ins></ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may melt ice on [[shabbat]] if the water which comes out goes to waste. Therefore, ice can be disposed of in the sink, or one may cool a bottle with ice. <ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:1 </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. <ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Daily Halacha], Kaf Hachayim 320:60, Yalkut Yosef 320:27. Sh"t Lev Chaim 2:192 is stringent however. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One may place ice into a cup of liquid but one shouldn’t accelerate the melting by pressing the ice. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:2 </ref> According to Sephardim one may shake the cup even if that accelerates the melting. <ref>[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=793 Daily Halacha], Kaf Hachayim 320:60, Yalkut Yosef 320:27. Sh"t Lev Chaim 2:192 is stringent however. </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]]. The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">see </del>also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24 </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat. <Ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com </ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]].<ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:4 and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and </ins>Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]].<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ref> Some are lenient.<ref> </ins>The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Feinstein </ins>that you can make ice because it has no permanence. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mesoret Moshe v. 2 p. 66 also quotes Rav Moshe as holding that you can make ice on Shabbat. See </ins>also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </ins></ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat.<Ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com </ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">14 </del>and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]]. The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. see also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24 </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat. <Ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com </ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div># One shouldn’t make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless one feels that one can’t do without them on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 10:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">4 </ins>and 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 370) write that one shouldn't make ice on [[Shabbat]] unless a need arises. Dovev Mesharim 1:55, [[Shevet Halevi]] 3:55 Chelkat Yaakov 2:98 also say not to make ice on [[Shabbat]]. The [[Shabbos]] Kitchen 177 footnote 22 quotes Or Hashabbos 4:107 in the name of Rav Moshe that you can make ice because it has no permanence. see also Tzitz Eliezer 6:34 and 8:12 as well as Minchat Yitzchak 8:24 </ref> Sephardim are lenient and allow one to make ice on Shabbat. <Ref> [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=969 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on dailyhalacha.com </ref> </div></td></tr>
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