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# Noten taam lifgam applies to all prohibitions including combinations of milk and meat.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 103:3, Chavot Daat (Biurim 103:1) unlike the Peleti 87:15</ref>
# Noten taam lifgam applies to all prohibitions including combinations of milk and meat.<ref>Kaf HaChaim 103:3, Chavot Daat (Biurim 103:1) unlike the Peleti 87:15</ref>
==Sharp Foods==
==Sharp Foods==
# If one cuts a sharp food such as a radish with a meat knife that radish is considered meat and may not be eaten together with dairy.<ref>Gemara Chullin 111b, Shulchan Aruch YD 96:1</ref>
# If an onion or another sharp food is cut with a meat or milk knife or is cooked in a meat or milk pot see the [[Sharp Food]] page.
# Examples of sharp foods include: radishes<ref>"Tzanon". Aruch Hashulchan 96:13, Badei Hashulchan 96:2</ref>, asafoetida<ref>Translation of Chiltit (Google Translate April 7 2019)</ref>, onion<ref>"Betzel" Shulchan Aruch 96:2</ref>, garlic<ref>"Shum", Shulchan Aruch 96:2</ref>, horse radish<ref>Dvar Charif p. 25</ref>, leeks<ref>"Karti", "Kerishin", Shulchan Aruch 96:2, Dvar Charif p. 27</ref>.
# Some say that radishes with a white peel aren't a dvar charif and would be lenient for a great loss but others argue.<ref>The Aruch Hashulchan 96:13 writes that he heard a gadol say that radishes with a black peel is a dvar charif but not one with a white peel. He concludes that one could rely on this for a great loss. Dvar Charif p. 26 cites the Darkei Teshuva 96:1 who disagrees. Badei Hashulchan 96:2 cites both opinions.</ref>
# Cucumbers, cabbage, apples, pears, and plums aren't sharp foods.<Ref>Aruch Hashulchan 96:13</ref>
# Many say that beets aren't a sharp food.<ref>Pri Megadim S"D 96:1 notes that he isn't sure what tradin is. Horah Brurah 96 fnt. 6 writes that tradin and silka isn't beets. He cites the Tiferet Yosef YD 1, and Rav Yosef Kapach (Simchei Hamishna "Tradin"). Instead he defines taradin as Swiss chard. Horah Brurah concludes that beets isn't a dvar charif. (Often tradin is defined as beets e.g. Jastrow p. 997 "Silka"). Aruch Hashulchan 96:13 writes that beets aren't sharp. Badei Hashulchan 96 fnt. 8 cites the Makom Shmuel 90 who says that tradin aren't beets.</ref>
===Nat Bar Nat===
# Even though the knife was clean that was used to cut the sharp food or the pot that was used to cook the sharp food was clean the sharp food still takes on the status of the knife or pot (''nat bar nat'').<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 96:1</ref>
# If the sharp food is cut with a meat knife or cooked in a meat pot and then it is cooked with another food, if that second food is mixed with milk there is a dispute if the second food with milk is permitted (''nat bar nat bar nat'').<ref>Badei Hashulchan 96:5 quotes that the Pri Megadim is strict since we treat nat bar nat of a dvar charif like one nat so too with three nat's. However, Rabbi Akiva Eiger argues.</ref> For a case of need it is permitted.<ref>Badei Hashulchan 96:5</ref>
===Teyma===
# If someone cut a sharp food with a meat knife and then tasted it, if it didn't have any meat taste, and then one mistakenly cooked that sharp food with a dairy food one can be lenient after the fact.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 96:1 allows tasting the food even initially, however, the Shach 96:5 argues that it is only permitted after the fact. Badei Hashulchan 96:15 agrees. In the biurim he quotes the Rabbi Akiva Eiger who says that one needs to taste the entire area that is within a fingerbreadth of the cut but is lenient for the Pri Megadim who holds that one could taste any area near the cut if there's another reason to be lenient.</ref>
===Efsher Lsachto===
# If a sharp food was cut with a meat knife and then was cooked in a dairy food that food is forbidden unless there is sixty times the knife that was used to cut the sharp food. In that case the sharp food itself is permitted.<ref>Shach 94:23, Taz 96:5, Magen Avraham 447:38, Pri Megadim E"A 96:8 citing Maharam Lublin 28</ref>
# If a sharp food was cut with a meat knife and then was left soaking in milk, the milk is forbidden unless the milk is sixty times the knife. In that case the sharp food is forbidden and must be removed before having the milk.<ref>Pri Megadim E"A 96:8 explains that soaking food doesn't spread the taste evenly.</ref>
===Cutting Boards===
# There is a dispute whether the cutting action that transfers taste to a sharp food includes only the knife or even the cutting board or plate underneath.<ref>Badei Hashulchan 96:7. He concludes to be strict. Sefer Dvar Charif p. 12 discusses this and quotes Rav Elyashiv as holding that initially one should avoid the situation but after the fact there's no issue.</ref>
# Initially one should cut a sharp food with a parve knife on a parve cutting board, or with a meat knife on a meat cutting board, or milk knife and milk cutting board. If someone cut a sharp food with a meat knife on a milk cutting board some say that the food, the knife, and the cutting board are non-kosher but most poskim are lenient after the fact.<ref>Dvar Charif p. 13</ref>
# After the fact if someone used a parve knife to cut a sharp food on a meat cutting board initially one should only eat that sharp food with meat, however, the knife can still be treated as parve. Similarly, if someone cut with a meat knife on a parve cutting board one should initially eat that sharp food only with meat but the cutting board can still be treated as parve.<ref>Dvar Charif p. 14</ref>
# If someone cut a very spicy meat that is considered a sharp food on a milk cutting board there is more reason to be concerned and one should ask a Rabbi.<ref>Dvar Charif p. 15</ref>
 
===Ein Ben Yomo===
# There is a dispute if one cuts a sharp food with an eino ben yomo meat knife if the sharp food is considered meat. The halacha is to be strict.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 96:1 cites the rishonim who are lenient as long as the knife was eino ben yomo and then quotes the Sefer Hatrumah as some say to be strict.</ref>


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