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# one may not begin reciting “Mashiv Haruach” in the Amida prayer until the Hazan announces before Musaf on Shemini Aseret that it should be recited. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 114:2 </ref> | # one may not begin reciting “Mashiv Haruach” in the Amida prayer until the Hazan announces before Musaf on Shemini Aseret that it should be recited. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 114:2 </ref> | ||
==If one made a mistake in the winter== | ==If one made a mistake in the winter== | ||
# In the winter, if one said Morid HaTal instead of Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem if one remembered before the end of the Bracha one should say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem before VeNeeman Atta LeHaChayot Meytim. <Ref>Kaf HaChaim 114:38 and Halacha Brurah 114:11 </ref> However, if one finished the Bracha one doesn’t go back to correct it<Ref>Shulchan Aruch OC 114:5. | |||
* The Rif (Tanit 1a) quotes the Yerushalmi (Tanit 1:1) which says that even though if one forgets to say Morid HaGeshem if one said Morid HaTal in it’s place one has fulfilled one’s obligation. The Tosfot ([[Brachot]] 29b s.v. Ha), Rabbenu Yonah (19b s.v. VeOmrim), Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:14), and Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:8) agree with the Rif against the Ran (Tanit 1b s.v. Haya) who questions the Rif. | |||
* The Rabbenu Yonah (19b s.v. VeOmrim) explain that only in the second Bracha of Atta Gibor does a mention of dew satisfy the obligation of mentioning rain because the only obligation is to mention a praise of Hashem, however, in the Bracha for rain (Birkat HaShanim, the ninth bracha) a mention of dew doesn’t satisfy the obligation because there’s an obligation to request rain and requesting dew is a different (and unnecessary) request altogether. | |||
* Similarly, the Bet Yosef 114:5 explains that the obligation to praise Hashem that He supplies the needs of the world is preferably fulfilled with the mention of rain because rain is an immediate need, however, after the fact it is fulfilled with the mentioning of dew because it too is a mentioning of a need of the world. | |||
* However, the Taz 117:3 says that only a mentioning of dew satisfies the obligation because it too is a praise about how Hashem gives life through water (in rain and dew) to the world. The Pri Megadim (M”Z 114:11) says that according to the Taz if one only say Mashiv HaRuach and not Morid HaGeshem one would not have fulfilled one’s obligation, however, according to the Bet Yosef, one may have fulfilled one’s obligation. This is also quoted in the Kaf HaChaim 114:37. Mishna Brurah 114:26 holds in this case that should repeat Shemona Esrei. | |||
* The Tur 114:5, and Shulchan Aruch 114:5 codify the halacha like the Rif. </ref> even if one didn't yet start the next bracha.<ref>Ben Ish Chai (Beshalach no. 16) says one should insert Mashiv Haruach UMorid Hageshem before Atta Kadosh if one said Morid Hatal and remembered before starting the next bracha. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Yabia Omer 1:22:13 argues because the Bet Yosef 114:6 concludes that we would only use the idea of the Ravyah to insert a missed insertion immediately after the bracha before the next bracha for necessary insertions. However, in this situation once a person said Morid Hatal it is sufficient and so one shouldn't insert it before the next bracha. Halacha Brurah 114:11 agrees.</ref> | |||
# Similarly, during the winter if one said both Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and Morid HaTal one doesn’t go back to correct it. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 114:5 </ref> | |||
# In the winter, if one forgot to say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and | # In the winter, if one forgot to say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem and | ||
## remembered before the end of the Bracha, one should say it where one remembered and continue from there <ref> | ## remembered before the end of the Bracha, one should say it where one remembered and continue from there <ref> | ||
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* The S”A 114:6 rules like the Mordechai that one shouldn’t say any conclusion when adding an insertion between the [[Brachot]] of [[Shmoneh Esrei]].] </ref> | * The S”A 114:6 rules like the Mordechai that one shouldn’t say any conclusion when adding an insertion between the [[Brachot]] of [[Shmoneh Esrei]].] </ref> | ||
## remembered after having completed the Bracha and started the next Bracha, one has to repeat [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. <ref> Rabbi Chanina in Gemara Tanit (3b) says that if one forgot to say Morid HaGeshem in the winter months one must repeat [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is the ruling of the Rif (Tanit 1a), Rosh (Tanit 1:1), Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:8), Tur 114:5, and S”A 114:5. </ref> | ## remembered after having completed the Bracha and started the next Bracha, one has to repeat [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. <ref> Rabbi Chanina in Gemara Tanit (3b) says that if one forgot to say Morid HaGeshem in the winter months one must repeat [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is the ruling of the Rif (Tanit 1a), Rosh (Tanit 1:1), Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:8), Tur 114:5, and S”A 114:5. </ref> | ||
==If one made a mistake in the summer== | ==If one made a mistake in the summer== | ||
