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* Biur Halacha 114:6 D”H BeLo Chatima quotes several reasons not to hold like the Ravyah (who says that one may insert Mashiv HaRuach after Mechaye Maytim before Atta Kadosh), however, he concludes that it’s difficult to rule against the Shulchan Aruch (who rules like the Ravyah) and many achronim who agree with S”A. The Biur Halacha adds that if one remembers before finishing the Bracha one should conclude with the words Lamdeni Chukecha which is the conclusion of a פסוק and then one will be able to go back to Mashiv HaRuach and continue from there avoiding the situation of the Ravyah. Additionally, if one forgot VeTen Tal UMatar Lebracha one should say it in Shomeh Tefillah rather than say it before the next Bracha. The Mishna Brurah 114:32 seems to hold like Shulchan Aruch unless it’s possible to avoid this situation. | * Biur Halacha 114:6 D”H BeLo Chatima quotes several reasons not to hold like the Ravyah (who says that one may insert Mashiv HaRuach after Mechaye Maytim before Atta Kadosh), however, he concludes that it’s difficult to rule against the Shulchan Aruch (who rules like the Ravyah) and many achronim who agree with S”A. The Biur Halacha adds that if one remembers before finishing the Bracha one should conclude with the words Lamdeni Chukecha which is the conclusion of a פסוק and then one will be able to go back to Mashiv HaRuach and continue from there avoiding the situation of the Ravyah. Additionally, if one forgot VeTen Tal UMatar Lebracha one should say it in Shomeh Tefillah rather than say it before the next Bracha. The Mishna Brurah 114:32 seems to hold like Shulchan Aruch unless it’s possible to avoid this situation. | ||
* However, the Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:93 argues on the Biur Halacha and says that the advise of concluding the Bracha with Lamdeni Chukecha isn’t a viable option because it’s considered an interruption to speak words of Torah in middle of [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. Rather the Igrot Moshe says that one should rely on Shulchan Aruch completely and if one remembers after having said Baruch Atta Hashem one should finish the Bracha and then say Mashiv HaRuach right there before the next Bracha. | * However, the Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:93 argues on the Biur Halacha and says that the advise of concluding the Bracha with Lamdeni Chukecha isn’t a viable option because it’s considered an interruption to speak words of Torah in middle of [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. Rather the Igrot Moshe says that one should rely on Shulchan Aruch completely and if one remembers after having said Baruch Atta Hashem one should finish the Bracha and then say Mashiv HaRuach right there before the next Bracha. | ||
* Despite the argument of the Igrot Moshe, most achronim side with the Biur Halacha including Ben Ish Chai (Nitsavim #20), Kaf HaChaim 114:28, Sh”t Bear Moshe 4:18, Or Letzion (vol 2, 7:29), Sh”t | * Despite the argument of the Igrot Moshe, most achronim side with the Biur Halacha including Ben Ish Chai (Nitsavim #20), Kaf HaChaim 114:28, Sh”t Bear Moshe 4:18, Or Letzion (vol 2, 7:29), Sh”t Yabia Omer 1:22, Sh”t Yechava Daat 5:49, Tefillah KeHilchata 12:28, and Piskei Teshuvot 114:9. </ref> | ||
## remembered after having completed the Bracha before the next Bracha, one should say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem right there and continue with Atta Kadosh. <Ref> | ## remembered after having completed the Bracha before the next Bracha, one should say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem right there and continue with Atta Kadosh. <Ref> | ||
* The Ravyah (Tanit Siman 846) writes that if one forgot to say Morid HaGeshem in the winter and one remembered before the beginning of the next Bracha one may say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem at that point. This is also quoted by the Mordechai (Tanit Siman 513), Rosh (Tanit 1:1), and Hagahot Maimon (Tefillah 10) in name of the Smak. This is the ruling of Tur and S”A 114:6. [Many Achronim agree with S”A including Ben Ish Chai (Bishalach #16).] | * The Ravyah (Tanit Siman 846) writes that if one forgot to say Morid HaGeshem in the winter and one remembered before the beginning of the next Bracha one may say Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem at that point. This is also quoted by the Mordechai (Tanit Siman 513), Rosh (Tanit 1:1), and Hagahot Maimon (Tefillah 10) in name of the Smak. This is the ruling of Tur and S”A 114:6. [Many Achronim agree with S”A including Ben Ish Chai (Bishalach #16).] | ||
