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* Birkei Yosef 317:2 argues that the Agur was lenient even if the bow-knot is permanent. Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 2, p. 562) agrees. </ref> However, if one doesn't usually untie it within 24 hours  (and manages to slip one's foot in and out) it would be forbidden to tie one's shoes on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 798) </ref>According to Sephardim it is permissible even if it isn't meant to be untied within 24 hours, yet it's preferable to make sure to untie it within 7 days. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (317:11), Rav Ovadyah in Kol Sinai (Koshair #5). See previous two footnotes.</ref>
* Birkei Yosef 317:2 argues that the Agur was lenient even if the bow-knot is permanent. Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 2, p. 562) agrees. </ref> However, if one doesn't usually untie it within 24 hours  (and manages to slip one's foot in and out) it would be forbidden to tie one's shoes on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 798) </ref>According to Sephardim it is permissible even if it isn't meant to be untied within 24 hours, yet it's preferable to make sure to untie it within 7 days. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (317:11), Rav Ovadyah in Kol Sinai (Koshair #5). See previous two footnotes.</ref>
# Someone doing the wrapping of an Ashkenaz Sefer Torah (Gelilah) and has to tie a sash around the Torah, it's preferable to just wrap the sash around the Torah and tuck in the end, however, if that's not possible then some are lenient to tie a bow on top of a single knot <Ref> Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 7:29, Shalmat Chaim 185, Beir Moshe 6:55.  </ref> while others are strict unless one is planning on untying it within 24 hours. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 15:53 (in new editions 15:56) is strict unless one is planning to untie it within 24 hours, however, in the footnote (15:188) he quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman who said that the minhag is to be lenient.</ref>
# Someone doing the wrapping of an Ashkenaz Sefer Torah (Gelilah) and has to tie a sash around the Torah, it's preferable to just wrap the sash around the Torah and tuck in the end, however, if that's not possible then some are lenient to tie a bow on top of a single knot <Ref> Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 7:29, Shalmat Chaim 185, Beir Moshe 6:55.  </ref> while others are strict unless one is planning on untying it within 24 hours. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 15:53 (in new editions 15:56) is strict unless one is planning to untie it within 24 hours, however, in the footnote (15:188) he quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman who said that the minhag is to be lenient.</ref>
# It is permissible to tie a necktie on [[Shabbat]] if one usually unties it within 24 hours. However if one doesn't usually untie it within 24 hours, one should tie it from before [[Shabbat]] and put it on and take it off by just tightening and loosening the side which goes around the neck, however, one shouldn't untie it on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 15:58 (in new editions 15:62) permits tying a necktie on [[Shabbat]] if one usually unties it within 24 hours. In the footnote 15:208 he quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman. Similarly, 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3, pg 795-6) permits as long as one usually unties it after wearing it. See the footnote (Koshair #42) where he quotes Rav Reuven Feinstein who quotes his father Rav Moshe Feinstein that it would be permitted even if one doesn't usually untie it. </ref>
# Many authorities hold that it is permissible to tie a necktie on [[Shabbat]] if one usually unties it within 24 hours. However, if one doesn't usually untie it within 24 hours, some say that if one intends to untie it within 24 hours it is permitted, while others write that one should tie it from before [[Shabbat]] and put it on and take it off by just tightening and loosening the side which goes around the neck, however, one shouldn't untie it on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>
 
* [[Image:Ties.gif|200px|right]] For diagrams of the different ways to make a tie, click on the image to the right. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 15:58 quotes Rav Shlomo Zalman as permitting tying a necktie on Shabbat if it is “not tied as a knot” (to be explained) and meant to be undone in 24 hours because it is like a bow on top of a single knot. He adds that if one doesn't usually untie it within 24 hours, one should tie it before Shabbat and put it on and take it off by tightening and loosening it. The English translation of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata explains “not tied as a knot” as a tie which would become undone if the narrow end is pulled out. The new edition of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 15:62, however, writes that it is permitted to tie a necktie on Shabbat if one usually unties it within 24 hours and does not have any other stipulations.
* Rav Moshe Feinstein (cited by 39 Melachos, footnote #42), Rabbi Eliezer Waldenburg (cited by Shabbat VeHilchoteha p. 221), Menuchat Ahava (vol 3, 14:13), and Or Letzion 2:47:21 permit tying a necktie and don’t specify which type.  
* Rabbi Mordechai Willig ([http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/726909/Rabbi_Mordechai_I_Willig/Hilchos_Shabbos_5761_-_KosherMatir_#1 “Hilchos Shabbat 5761 Kosher#1”] min 90-4) says that even according to those who consider a tie to be a knot, it is permitted to make a tie if one has intent to undo it within 24 hours. This is even true for a person who usually leaves their tie tied. Although the Beiur Halacha D”H HaKosher writes that one’s personal intent to undo it within 24 hours is ineffective when the way of the world is to leave a knot tied, Rabbi Willig explained that this case is not similar because some do untie their ties everyday. The 39 Melachos (footnote #41) has the same idea. </ref>
==Single knot==
==Single knot==
# It is forbidden to tie a single knot with one string onto itself. <Ref> Rama (317:1) quoting the Hagot Alfasi, Kitzur S"A 80:45, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in the new edition 15:52) </ref>
# It is forbidden to tie a single knot with one string onto itself. <Ref> Rama (317:1) quoting the Hagot Alfasi, Kitzur S"A 80:45, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (in the new edition 15:52) </ref>