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===Minayn Shows Up Late===
===Minayn Shows Up Late===
# If there wasn’t a minyan during the learning and the minyan came afterwards it is proper to repeat a line of learning before the Kaddish.<ref>Magen Avraham 69:4 writes that you need the minyan to be present when the learning is taking place. Mishna Brurah 55:2 cites that the Taz disagrees but Gra follows the Magen Avraham. He advises being strict.</ref>
# If there wasn’t a minyan during the learning and the minyan came afterwards it is proper to repeat a line of learning before the Kaddish.<ref>Magen Avraham 69:4 writes that you need the minyan to be present when the learning is taking place. Mishna Brurah 55:2 cites that the Taz disagrees but Gra follows the Magen Avraham. He advises being strict.</ref>
# If there wasn’t a minyan during Ashrei or Pesukei Dzimrah and the minyan came afterwards it is proper to recite three pesukim as a congregation before the Kaddish but many are lenient to just start Kaddish without saying three pesukim.<ref>Magen Avraham 69:4 holds that if the minyan appears only after learning they can’t say kaddish. Mishna Brurah 55:2 cites this Magen Avraham as well as the Taz who disagrees. He writes that it is proper to always repeat three pesukim before starting kaddish. Finally, he quotes the Pri Megadim M”Z 55:3 that for chatzi kaddish even the Magen Avraham agrees with the Taz.</ref>
# If there wasn’t a minyan during Ashrei or Pesukei Dzimrah and the minyan came afterwards it is proper to recite three pesukim as a congregation before the Kaddish but many are lenient to just start Kaddish without saying three pesukim.<ref>Magen Avraham 69:4 holds that if the minyan appears only after learning they can’t say kaddish. Mishna Brurah 55:2 cites this Magen Avraham as well as the Taz who disagrees. He writes that it is proper to always repeat three pesukim before starting kaddish. Finally, he quotes the Pri Megadim M”Z 55:3 that for chatzi kaddish even the Magen Avraham agrees with the Taz. Mishna Brurah 53:11 says initially he should be strict for the Magen Avraham even in the case of a chatzi kaddish. Darkei Moshe 53:1 implies like the Pri Megadim.</ref>


==When Kaddish May Be Said==
==When Kaddish May Be Said==