https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Ikar_and_Tafel&feed=atom&action=historyIkar and Tafel - Revision history2024-03-28T13:47:47ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://halachipedia.com/index.php?title=Ikar_and_Tafel&diff=32440&oldid=prevYitzchakSultan1: /* Sushi */2023-11-20T04:42:14Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Sushi</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Many poskim say sushi is mezonot since the rice is in the majority and is primary.<ref>Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, pg 359-384), [https://www.ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/food-fore-blessings-bracha-rishona-special-cases/ Article on OU.org]. Rabbi Alexander Mandelbaum in Yeshurun v. 33 p. 583 agrees that generally it is mezonot. [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/979192/rabbi-ike-sultan/brachos-chart-for-yu-caf-approved-by-rav-schachter/ Rav Hershel Schachter] agreed.</ref> If the fish is primary to you then you make two brachot, mezonot and shehakol, first mezonot on rice and then shehakol on the fish.<ref>[https://www.ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/food-fore-blessings-bracha-rishona-special-cases/ Article on OU.org]</ref> Others hold that if the fish is primary and you don't want the rice then just recite shehakol and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">exempts </del>the rice.<ref>Rabbi Alexander Mandelbaum in Yeshurun v. 33 p. 584 writes that since the rice and fish are one unit that are eaten in one bite it is considered a mixture that deserves only one bracha (Aruch Hashulchan 212:2). Even though the Mishna Brurah 168:45 disagrees if they weren't cooked together, Rabbi Mandelbaum quoted Rav Elyashiv who said that if the parts were thin and small such as in sushi it is called a mixture even according to the Mishna Brurah. Therefore, in his opinion, the sushi can only require one bracha, either mezonot or shehakol.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Many poskim say sushi is mezonot since the rice is in the majority and is primary.<ref>Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, pg 359-384), [https://www.ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/food-fore-blessings-bracha-rishona-special-cases/ Article on OU.org]. Rabbi Alexander Mandelbaum in Yeshurun v. 33 p. 583 agrees that generally it is mezonot. [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/979192/rabbi-ike-sultan/brachos-chart-for-yu-caf-approved-by-rav-schachter/ Rav Hershel Schachter] agreed.</ref> If the fish is primary to you then you make two brachot, mezonot and shehakol, first mezonot on rice and then shehakol on the fish.<ref>[https://www.ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/food-fore-blessings-bracha-rishona-special-cases/ Article on OU.org]</ref> Others hold that if the fish is primary and you don't want the rice<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>then just recite shehakol and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">exempt </ins>the rice.<ref>Rabbi Alexander Mandelbaum in Yeshurun v. 33 p. 584 writes that since the rice and fish are one unit that are eaten in one bite it is considered a mixture that deserves only one bracha (Aruch Hashulchan 212:2). Even though the Mishna Brurah 168:45 disagrees if they weren't cooked together, Rabbi Mandelbaum quoted Rav Elyashiv who said that if the parts were thin and small such as in sushi it is called a mixture even according to the Mishna Brurah. Therefore, in his opinion, the sushi can only require one bracha, either mezonot or shehakol.</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#If chicken chow mein or chicken lo mein is made with chicken, vegetables, and noodles, if the noodles are mixed in with the other ingredients then the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. However, if the noodles aren’t completely combined then the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] on the noodles and either HaAdama or [[Shehakol]] on the rest depending on the majority (see previous halacha).<ref>Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 362) writes if there are noodles in chicken chow mein the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] on the noodles, and [[Shehakol]] on the chow mein if it’s mostly chicken or HaAdama on the chow mein if it’s mostly vegetables. However, on pg 385 note 14 he qualifies that this is only the case when the noodles aren’t totally mixed in, however, if they are mixed in then [[mezonot]] on the noodles exempts the other ingredients. Also, the [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] writes simply that chow mein is [[mezonot]]. (Maybe they are assuming the noodles are mixed completely.) </ref></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#</del>Chicken <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chow mein which is only made with chicken </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">vegetables is [[Shehakol]] if </del>the chicken <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is the majority </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">HaAdama if </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">vegetables are </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">majority</del>.<ref><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Mishna Brurah </del>212:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">1 writes that a mixture of two foods neither of which </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[mezonot]] </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">one isn’t coming to enhance </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">other the Bracha depends </del>on <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the majority. Vezot HaBracha (pg 90), Halachos </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Brachos]] (pg 68), and Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 214) agree. Therefore, Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 362) writes that if </del>there <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">aren't any noodles (or </del>rice<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">) in </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chicken chow mein, then it depends </del>on the majority<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. If there </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a </del>majority <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of vegetables </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Bracha </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">HaAdama</del>, if the majority <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is chicken </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Bracha </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Shehakol]]</del>. <<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/</del>ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">====</ins>Chicken and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Rice====</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#If chicken chow mein is made with chicken</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">vegetables, and noodles</del>, if <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the noodles </del>are mixed <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in with the other ingredients then the Bracha is [[Mezonot]]. However</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">if </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">noodles aren’t completely combined then the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] on the noodles and either HaAdama or [[Shehakol]] on the rest depending </del>on the majority <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(see previous halacha).<ref>Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 362) writes </del>if <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there are noodles in chicken chow mein </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Bracha </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Mezonot]] on the noodles, </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Shehakol]] on the chow mein if it’s mostly chicken or HaAdama on the chow mein if it’s mostly vegetables</del>. However, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on pg 385 note 14 he qualifies </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">this is only </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">case when </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">noodles aren’t totally mixed in, however</del>, if <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">they are mixed </del>in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">then [[mezonot]] on the noodles exempts </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">other ingredients</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Also, the [http</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">//www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] writes simply that chow mein is [[mezonot]]. (Maybe they are assuming the noodles are mixed completely</del>.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">) </del></ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#If </ins>the chicken <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pieces are large </ins>and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">eaten by themselves without rice in </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">same bite, </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chicken and rice each deserve their own bracha</ins>.<ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yalkut Yosef 212:5. See similar ideas in Aruch Hashulchan </ins>212:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">2 and Or Letzion 2:14:30.</ref></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chicken chow mein is made with </del>chicken, vegetables, and rice then one should make the Bracha on the majority item and exempt the other ingredients; if rice is the majority, the bracha is [[Mezonot]], if vegetables are the majority the bracha is HaAdama, and if chicken is the majority the bracha is [[Shehakol]].<ref>Aruch HaShulchan 212:2 writes that for two different foods to be considered a single mixture they must be eaten together on a single spoonful. This is quoted by Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 208), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 64), and a similar statement is found in Vezot HaBracha (pg 91). Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (Rabbi Bodner, pg 24) writes that chicken chow mein which is made with rice, chicken, and vegetables because it is usually eaten on the same forkful has one Bracha which depends on what is the majority, if it’s rice, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]], if it’s chicken, Bracha is [[Shehakol]], and if it’s vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[In general</del>, Vezot HaBracha (pg 94) writes that if there’s no majority because there are three foods with different [[Brachot]], then each food requires its own Bracha.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">] </del></ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#If chicken and rice </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mixed together </ins>and the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pieces of chicken are small enough that </ins>on <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">each bite </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">chicken </ins>there <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is </ins>rice<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bracha is made </ins>on the majority<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">; if the rice </ins>is majority the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bracha </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mezonot</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">while </ins>if <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the chicken is </ins>the majority the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bracha </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">shehakol</ins>.<ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yabia Omer OC 7:32</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Halacha Brurah 212:6</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yalkut Yosef 212:5. Vezot Habracha (11:3:5 p. 91) quotes Rav Elyashiv that </ins>if <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there </ins>are <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">two foods </ins>mixed <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">together and one wants both</ins>, the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bracha depends </ins>on the majority <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even </ins>if the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">minority ingredient </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">more important </ins>and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">expensive</ins>. However, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the Shaarei Habracha (ch. 15 fnt. 22) disputes this opinion of Rav Elyashiv and holds </ins>that the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">more significant food determines </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bracha</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even </ins>if <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it is </ins>in the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">minority</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">His opinion is based on Taz 202:2 and Or Letzion 2:14</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">29</ins>.</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If chicken, vegetables, and rice <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">are mixed together, </ins>then one should make the Bracha on the majority item and exempt the other ingredients; if rice is the majority, the bracha is [[Mezonot]], if vegetables are the majority the bracha is HaAdama, and if chicken is the majority the bracha is [[Shehakol]].<ref>Aruch HaShulchan 212:2 writes that for two different foods to be considered a single mixture they must be eaten together on a single spoonful. This is quoted by Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 208), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 64), and a similar statement is found in Vezot HaBracha (pg 91). Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (Rabbi Bodner, pg 24) writes that chicken chow mein which is made with rice, chicken, and vegetables because it is usually eaten on the same forkful has one Bracha which depends on what is the majority, if it’s rice, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]], if it’s chicken, Bracha is [[Shehakol]], and if it’s vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></reF> If there is no majority</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">three brachot are made when each food is separated out.<ref> </ins>Vezot HaBracha (pg 94) writes that if there’s no majority because there are three foods with different [[Brachot]], then each food requires its own Bracha.</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">#Chicken and vegetables </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Shehakol]] if the chicken is the majority and HaAdama if the vegetables are the majority.<ref>Mishna Brurah 212:1 writes that a mixture of two foods neither of which is [[mezonot]] and one isn’t coming to enhance the other the Bracha depends </ins>on the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">majority. Vezot HaBracha (pg 90), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 68), and Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 214) agree. Therefore, Laws of </ins>[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Brachos</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(pg 362) writes that </ins>if <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there aren't any noodles (or rice) in the chicken chow mein, then </ins>it <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">depends on the majority. If </ins>there <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is a majority of vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama, if the majority is chicken the Bracha is [[Shehakol]]. </ref></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Chicken chow mein which is only made with chicken and vegetables is [[Shehakol]] if the chicken is the majority and HaAdama if the vegetables are the majority. <ref>Mishna Brurah 212:1 writes that a mixture of two foods neither of which is [[mezonot]] and one isn’t coming to enhance the other the Bracha depends on the majority. Vezot HaBracha (pg 90), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 68), and Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 214) agree. Therefore, Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 362) writes that if <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there’s no </del>noodles (or rice) in the chicken chow mein then it depends on the majority<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, if there’s </del>a majority of vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama if the majority is chicken the Bracha is [[Shehakol]]. </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#Chicken chow mein which is only made with chicken and vegetables is [[Shehakol]] if the chicken is the majority and HaAdama if the vegetables are the majority.<ref>Mishna Brurah 212:1 writes that a mixture of two foods neither of which is [[mezonot]] and one isn’t coming to enhance the other the Bracha depends on the majority. Vezot HaBracha (pg 90), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 68), and Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 214) agree. Therefore, Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 362) writes that if <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">there aren't any </ins>noodles (or rice) in the chicken chow mein<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>then it depends on the majority<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. If there is </ins>a majority of vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>if the majority is chicken the Bracha is [[Shehakol]]. </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If chicken chow mein is made with chicken, vegetables, and rice then one should make the Bracha on the majority item and exempt the other ingredients; if rice is the majority, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">say </del>[[Mezonot]], if vegetables are the majority <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">say </del>HaAdama, and if chicken is the majority <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">say </del>[[Shehakol]].<ref>Aruch HaShulchan 212:2 writes that for two different foods to be considered a single mixture they must be eaten together on a single spoonful. This is quoted by Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 208), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 64), and a similar statement is found in Vezot HaBracha (pg 91). Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (Rabbi Bodner, pg 24) writes that chicken chow mein which is made with rice, chicken, and vegetables because it is usually eaten on the same forkful has one Bracha which depends on what is the majority, if it’s rice, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]], if it’s chicken, Bracha is [[Shehakol]], and if it’s vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama. [In general, Vezot HaBracha (pg 94) writes that if there’s no majority because there are three foods with different [[Brachot]], then each food requires its own Bracha.] </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#If chicken chow mein is made with chicken, vegetables, and rice then one should make the Bracha on the majority item and exempt the other ingredients; if rice is the majority, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the bracha is </ins>[[Mezonot]], if vegetables are the majority <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the bracha is </ins>HaAdama, and if chicken is the majority <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the bracha is </ins>[[Shehakol]].<ref>Aruch HaShulchan 212:2 writes that for two different foods to be considered a single mixture they must be eaten together on a single spoonful. This is quoted by Laws of [[Brachos]] (pg 208), Halachos of [[Brachos]] (pg 64), and a similar statement is found in Vezot HaBracha (pg 91). Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (Rabbi Bodner, pg 24) writes that chicken chow mein which is made with rice, chicken, and vegetables because it is usually eaten on the same forkful has one Bracha which depends on what is the majority, if it’s rice, the Bracha is [[Mezonot]], if it’s chicken, Bracha is [[Shehakol]], and if it’s vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama. [In general, Vezot HaBracha (pg 94) writes that if there’s no majority because there are three foods with different [[Brachot]], then each food requires its own Bracha.] </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make [[Mezonot]]. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. This is also the opinion of Vezot HaBracha (Luach [[Brachot]] pg 394) </ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>#For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make [[Mezonot]].<ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. This is also the opinion of Vezot HaBracha (Luach [[Brachot]] pg 394) </ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Halachos of [[Brachos]] (Rabbi Bodner, chap 4, pg 79) quotes Rav Elyashiv that the Bracha would be [[Mezonot]] in all cases in opposition to Rav Moshe, Rav Yacov Kamenetsky, and Rav Sheinburg who said [[Shehakol]] if it was a thin crust. He also quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Sheinburg that if there's a thick coating that one should make [[Mezonot]]. In the Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (pg 13 and 43) he rules like the second opinion that if there's a thin coating the bracha is [[Shehakol]] and if there's a thick coating the bracha is [[Mezonot]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Halachos of [[Brachos]] (Rabbi Bodner, chap 4, pg 79) quotes Rav Elyashiv that the Bracha would be [[Mezonot]] in all cases in opposition to Rav Moshe, Rav Yacov Kamenetsky, and Rav Sheinburg who said [[Shehakol]] if it was a thin crust. He also quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Sheinburg that if there's a thick coating that one should make [[Mezonot]]. In the Halachos of [[Brachos]] Handbook (pg 13 and 43) he rules like the second opinion that if there's a thin coating the bracha is [[Shehakol]] and if there's a thick coating the bracha is [[Mezonot]].</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* VeZot HaBracha (chap 12, pg 109) agrees that if there's a thin crust one should make [[Shehakol]], however, he argues that if there's a thick coating one should separate a piece of the coating and a piece of the meat and make [[Mezonot]] on the coating and [[Shehakol]] on the meat. [See Vezot HaBracha (Birur 19(1), pg 261) where he seems to agree that if there's a thick coating the bracha would be [[Mezonot]] but because of controversy he suggests separating the coating and making two [[brachot]].]</ref> Some poskim however, hold that all types of shnitzel are mezonot.<ref>Halachos of Brachos p. 79 quoting Rav Elyashiv. Laws of [[Brachos]] (Rabbi Forst, chap 218, pg 218) writes that it seems that the opinion who says that breaded cutlets are [[mezonot]] is correct, but one who wants to satisfy all opinions should make [[mezonot]] on a piece of crust and [[Shehakol]] on another food.</ref> Lastly, some poskim consider all shnitzel shehakol.<ref> [https://ph.yhb.org.il/10-11-05/ Peninei Halacha (Rabbi Melamed)] writes that all Shnitzel is shehakol. Also, Piskei Teshuvot 208:6 cites the Shevet Halevi 4:161, 6:24, Lehorot Natan 4:9, Cheshev Haefod 3:72, and Beer Moshe 5:61 who say that all shnitzel is shehakol. Shevet Halevi explains that since it is only a crust it is by definition secondary.</ref> The Sephardic minhag is to make [[Mezonot]] if the batter is thick and [[Shehakol]] if it is thin. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Brachot]] (vol 3), pg 426) writes that the bracha is [[Shehakol]] whether it is home made chicken cutlets or restaurant cutlets (where the coating is thicker). Yet, [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=57967 Rav Yitzchak Yosef Motzei Shabbat Vayhakel Pekudei 5778 min 37] explained that one should recite mezonot on shnitzel nowadays. They used to be shehakol since they were made with a bit of crust but today they're made with a lot of breading and they are mezonot. There is no safek brachot lehakel here since either way one would exempt any food besides salt and water with a mezonot. Also, Halacha Brurah 208:12, Or Letzion 2:14:19, and Birkat Hashem v. 3 p. 336 all hold that if the coating is thick the bracha on Shnitzel is mezonot.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* VeZot HaBracha (chap 12, pg 109) agrees that if there's a thin crust one should make [[Shehakol]], however, he argues that if there's a thick coating one should separate a piece of the coating and a piece of the meat and make [[Mezonot]] on the coating and [[Shehakol]] on the meat. [See Vezot HaBracha (Birur 19(1), pg 261) where he seems to agree that if there's a thick coating the bracha would be [[Mezonot]] but because of controversy he suggests separating the coating and making two [[brachot]].]</ref> Some poskim however, hold that all types of shnitzel are mezonot.<ref>Halachos of Brachos p. 79 quoting Rav Elyashiv. Laws of [[Brachos]] (Rabbi Forst, chap 218, pg 218) writes that it seems that the opinion who says that breaded cutlets are [[mezonot]] is correct, but one who wants to satisfy all opinions should make [[mezonot]] on a piece of crust and [[Shehakol]] on another food.</ref> Lastly, some poskim consider all shnitzel shehakol.<ref> [https://ph.yhb.org.il/10-11-05/ Peninei Halacha (Rabbi Melamed)] writes that all Shnitzel is shehakol<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/979192/rabbi-ike-sultan/brachos-chart-for-yu-caf-approved-by-rav-schachter/ Rav Hershel Schachter] agreed</ins>. Also, Piskei Teshuvot 208:6 cites the Shevet Halevi 4:161, 6:24, Lehorot Natan 4:9, Cheshev Haefod 3:72, and Beer Moshe 5:61 who say that all shnitzel is shehakol. Shevet Halevi explains that since it is only a crust it is by definition secondary.</ref> The Sephardic minhag is to make [[Mezonot]] if the batter is thick and [[Shehakol]] if it is thin. <Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Brachot]] (vol 3), pg 426) writes that the bracha is [[Shehakol]] whether it is home made chicken cutlets or restaurant cutlets (where the coating is thicker). Yet, [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=57967 Rav Yitzchak Yosef Motzei Shabbat Vayhakel Pekudei 5778 min 37] explained that one should recite mezonot on shnitzel nowadays. They used to be shehakol since they were made with a bit of crust but today they're made with a lot of breading and they are mezonot. There is no safek brachot lehakel here since either way one would exempt any food besides salt and water with a mezonot. Also, Halacha Brurah 208:12, Or Letzion 2:14:19, and Birkat Hashem v. 3 p. 336 all hold that if the coating is thick the bracha on Shnitzel is mezonot.</ref></div></td></tr>
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