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#For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make [[Mezonot]]. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. This is also the opinion of Vezot HaBracha (Luach [[Brachot]] pg 394) </ref> | #For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make [[Mezonot]].<ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. This is also the opinion of Vezot HaBracha (Luach [[Brachot]] pg 394) </ref> | ||
#The bracha on chulent (barley, beans, small pieces of meat, and potato) is [[Mezonot]]. | #The bracha on chulent (barley, beans, small pieces of meat, and potato) is [[Mezonot]]. | ||
##If there’s no barley, and the majority is potatoes and beans, the Bracha is HaAdama, if the majority is rice, the bracha is [[Mezonot]]. | ##If there’s no barley, and the majority is potatoes and beans, the Bracha is HaAdama, if the majority is rice, the bracha is [[Mezonot]]. | ||
##If there’s no barley and the Chulent has the Bracha of HaAdama, if the kishka is eaten separately, it requires it’s own [[mezonot]]. | ##If there’s no barley and the Chulent has the Bracha of HaAdama, if the kishka is eaten separately, it requires it’s own [[mezonot]]. | ||
##If the pieces of potato and meat are large enough that they aren't eaten together with the whole combination on each forkful, each component requires it’s own Bracha. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 65, 80, Handbook pg 28), Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 11, pg 392, Luach [[Brachot]]) </ref> | ##If the pieces of potato and meat are large enough that they aren't eaten together with the whole combination on each forkful, each component requires it’s own Bracha. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 65, 80, Handbook pg 28), Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 11, pg 392, Luach [[Brachot]]) </ref> | ||
#If one mixes carrot, peas, and couscous/farfel the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] since the [[mezonot]] is always considered Ikar. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 12) </ref> | #If one mixes carrot, peas, and couscous/farfel the Bracha is [[Mezonot]] since the [[mezonot]] is always considered Ikar.<ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 12) </ref> | ||
#The bracha on rice and meat chunks mixed up depends on the majority even though the meat is more expensive and important.<ref>Vezot HaBracha (p. 94) citing Rav Shlomo Zalman. The fact that this is considered one mixture is based on the Aruch Hashulchan 212:2 that anything eaten together on the same fork or spoon is considered one mixture. However, Or Letzion 2:14:30 seems to disagree as he writes that the bracha on large pieces of meat and rice even though they are mixed up are two separate brachot.</ref> | #The bracha on rice and meat chunks mixed up depends on the majority even though the meat is more expensive and important.<ref>Vezot HaBracha (p. 94) citing Rav Shlomo Zalman. The fact that this is considered one mixture is based on the Aruch Hashulchan 212:2 that anything eaten together on the same fork or spoon is considered one mixture. However, Or Letzion 2:14:30 seems to disagree as he writes that the bracha on large pieces of meat and rice even though they are mixed up are two separate brachot. Dirshu 212:2 cites this discussion.</ref> | ||
#For an ice cream sandwich, 2 [[brochot]] are required ([[mezonot]] and [[shehakol]]) in the usual case where one’s intent is both for the ice cream and for the cookie. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, pg 72, chapter 4), Vezot HaBracha (pg 92, chapter 11).</ref> Some say it is just mezonot.<ref>Shevet Halevi 7:27:6 writes that the bracha on an ice cream cake with ice cream between two layers of cake or a ice cream sandwich the bracha is mezonot. He explains that even the cake and the ice cream aren't cooked together and according to Mishna Brurah 168:45 one should make two brachot, this is different than the Mishna Brurah since here the ice cream is a filling for the sandwich or cake and not a topping. If the ice cream would be a thick layer on top of a mezonot then one should make two brachot but since the ice cream is just a filling and there's two layers of mezonot the bracha is mezonot on everything.</ref> | #For an ice cream sandwich, 2 [[brochot]] are required ([[mezonot]] and [[shehakol]]) in the usual case where one’s intent is both for the ice cream and for the cookie. <ref>VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, pg 72, chapter 4), Vezot HaBracha (pg 92, chapter 11).</ref> Some say it is just mezonot.<ref>Shevet Halevi 7:27:6 writes that the bracha on an ice cream cake with ice cream between two layers of cake or a ice cream sandwich the bracha is mezonot. He explains that even the cake and the ice cream aren't cooked together and according to Mishna Brurah 168:45 one should make two brachot, this is different than the Mishna Brurah since here the ice cream is a filling for the sandwich or cake and not a topping. If the ice cream would be a thick layer on top of a mezonot then one should make two brachot but since the ice cream is just a filling and there's two layers of mezonot the bracha is mezonot on everything.</ref> | ||
#For chocolate cream pie, if one eats it as a regular pie and the cream enhances dough, then only [[Mezonot]] is needed. However, if one is just as much for the cream as for the pie, then two [[Brachot]] ([[Mezonot]] and [[Shehakol]]) are required.<ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, Handbook pg 27) </ref> | #For chocolate cream pie, if one eats it as a regular pie and the cream enhances dough, then only [[Mezonot]] is needed. However, if one is just as much for the cream as for the pie, then two [[Brachot]] ([[Mezonot]] and [[Shehakol]]) are required.<ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, Handbook pg 27) </ref> | ||
