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==Insulating with material that preserves heat before [[Shabbat]]==
==Insulating with material that preserves heat before Shabbat==
# One is not allowed to insulate a food before [[Shabbat]] with material that preserves heat such as olive peals, sesame, salt, lime, or sand as a Gezerah that one will come to insulate with coals and stoke them. <Ref>S”A 257:1,3, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65</ref>  
# One is not allowed to insulate a food before [[Shabbat]] with material that preserves heat such as olive peals, sesame, salt, lime, or sand as a Gezerah that one will come to insulate with coals and stoke them. <Ref>S”A 257:1,3, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65</ref>  
## Therefore, even from before [[Shabbat]], it is forbidden to wrap a pot with cloth which is standing on the fire or electric plate (not blech). <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>
## Therefore, even from before [[Shabbat]], it is forbidden to wrap a pot with cloth which is standing on the fire or electric plate (not blech). <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>
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# Before [[Shabbat]], some say that one can leave fully cooked food in a plastic, nylon, or aluminum bag in an pot of hot food (such as kuggel in chulent), however, some forbid because of Hatmana. <Ref> Chazon Ish 37:32 rules that a vessel inside a pot of hot water doesn’t have an issue of Hatmana. Even though, Aruch HaShulchan 258:3 and Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 3:47 argue on the Chazon Ish, Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg 62) says one can rely on the Chazon Ish to be lenient, especially if the food is fully cooked (for which Rama 257:7 permits Hatmana). Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 8:15(4) says that there is what to be lenient since the bag is only separating the food inside it but it would have been hot from the pot nonetheless. Sh”t Vayeshev Moshe (Zanger) O”C 19 adds that the bag or aluminum isn’t a real vessel that separates the food inside it. Rav Shlomo Zalman in Sh”t Minchat Shlomo (2:34(20) in Ostrot Shlomo version), Sh”t LeHorot Natan O”C 12, Kovetz Or Yisrael 5:23, Sh”t Shraga HaMeir 4:63, 6:3, Megilat Sefer on [[Shabbat]] 4:13, Sh”t Kinyan Torah 4:24, Sh”t Az Nidabru 6:78, Sh”t Or Letzion 2:17(13), and Sh”t Maaseh Nisim 163 agree that there’s no Hatmana in our case of a food within another food since it’s not meant to be totally separate. [Even though Shemirat [[Shabbat]] 42:63 is strict regarding materials that don’t allow liquid through such as plastic, nylon, and aluminum, however in the new edition there’s a retraction in 1:87 quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman to permit in all circumstances.] Meor [[Shabbat]] 3 pg 519, and Menuchat Ahavah 1:3(27) are somewhat strict on the issue, the Minhag is to be lenient on this issue. </ref>.
# Before [[Shabbat]], some say that one can leave fully cooked food in a plastic, nylon, or aluminum bag in an pot of hot food (such as kuggel in chulent), however, some forbid because of Hatmana. <Ref> Chazon Ish 37:32 rules that a vessel inside a pot of hot water doesn’t have an issue of Hatmana. Even though, Aruch HaShulchan 258:3 and Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 3:47 argue on the Chazon Ish, Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg 62) says one can rely on the Chazon Ish to be lenient, especially if the food is fully cooked (for which Rama 257:7 permits Hatmana). Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 8:15(4) says that there is what to be lenient since the bag is only separating the food inside it but it would have been hot from the pot nonetheless. Sh”t Vayeshev Moshe (Zanger) O”C 19 adds that the bag or aluminum isn’t a real vessel that separates the food inside it. Rav Shlomo Zalman in Sh”t Minchat Shlomo (2:34(20) in Ostrot Shlomo version), Sh”t LeHorot Natan O”C 12, Kovetz Or Yisrael 5:23, Sh”t Shraga HaMeir 4:63, 6:3, Megilat Sefer on [[Shabbat]] 4:13, Sh”t Kinyan Torah 4:24, Sh”t Az Nidabru 6:78, Sh”t Or Letzion 2:17(13), and Sh”t Maaseh Nisim 163 agree that there’s no Hatmana in our case of a food within another food since it’s not meant to be totally separate. [Even though Shemirat [[Shabbat]] 42:63 is strict regarding materials that don’t allow liquid through such as plastic, nylon, and aluminum, however in the new edition there’s a retraction in 1:87 quoting Rav Shlomo Zalman to permit in all circumstances.] Meor [[Shabbat]] 3 pg 519, and Menuchat Ahavah 1:3(27) are somewhat strict on the issue, the Minhag is to be lenient on this issue. </ref>.


==Insulating on [[Shabbat]]==
==Insulating on Shabbat==
# On [[Shabbat]], one is not allowed to insulate food (cooked or raw) from all sides even if one uses material that doesn’t preserve heat like clothing or cloth because of the Gezerah that one will find the food cold and come to heat it up. <Ref> S”A 257:1,2, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>
# On [[Shabbat]], one is not allowed to insulate food (cooked or raw) from all sides even if one uses material that doesn’t preserve heat like clothing or cloth because of the Gezerah that one will find the food cold and come to heat it up. <Ref> S”A 257:1,2, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>
## It is forbidden to immerse an unopened can in hot water even if it’s fully cooked and even if the water is off the fire. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>
## It is forbidden to immerse an unopened can in hot water even if it’s fully cooked and even if the water is off the fire. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:65 </ref>