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==While it’s off==
==While it’s off==
# Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37) quotes Rabbi Binyamin Zilber who holds that if the electronic is only turned off it’s still a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 50) quotes Rabbi Moshe Feinstein who holds that if the electronic isn’t a Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis because of its value, it’s only a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur (this seemingly includes when it’s turned off). [Similarly, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 concerning flashlights The Weekly Halacha Discussion (vol 2 pg 338) concerning toasters agree with Rav Moshe in considering them Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur.]
# Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37) quotes Rabbi Binyamin Zilber who holds that if the electronic is only turned off it’s still a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 50) quotes Rabbi Moshe Feinstein who holds that if the electronic isn’t a [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]] because of its value, it’s only a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] (this seemingly includes when it’s turned off). [Similarly, Zachor VeShamor 41:4 concerning flashlights The Weekly Halacha Discussion (vol 2 pg 338) concerning toasters agree with Rav Moshe in considering them [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]].]
# However, Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37, 40) quoting Rav Elyashiv considers electronics that are turned off to be broken instruments and so they are Muktzeh Machmat Gufo.  
# However, Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37, 40) quoting Rav Elyashiv considers electronics that are turned off to be broken instruments and so they are [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]].  
==While it’s on ==
==While it’s on ==
# Sh”t Igrot Moshe 3:49, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:33, Rabbi Ovadyah Yosef (Halichot Olam pg 194), and Rav Elyashiv (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 37, 51) consider electronics that are on and are useable on [[Shabbat]] are considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur, while Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37) quotes Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach who considers them Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. [It seems Rav Moshe really holds electronics are Kli SheMelachto LeHeter, see Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:23.]
# Sh”t Igrot Moshe 3:49, Sh”t Az Nidbaru 8:33, [[Rabbi Ovadyah Yosef]] (Halichot Olam pg 194), and Rav Elyashiv (quoted by Shalmei Yehuda pg 37, 51) consider electronics that are on and are useable on [[Shabbat]] are considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]], while Shalmei Yehuda (pg 37) quotes [[Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach]] who considers them Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. [It seems Rav Moshe really holds electronics are [[Kli SheMelachto LeHeter]], see Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 5:23.]
# Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 52) quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Shlomo Zalman who permit moving the fan’s direction even to move the breeze away from him. However, Sh”t Bear Moshe 8:31 holds that it’s only permissible to turn the fan blades if one is directing the air towards him, but to direct the blades away from him would be forbidden.
# Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 52) quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Shlomo Zalman who permit moving the fan’s direction even to move the breeze away from him. However, Sh”t Bear Moshe 8:31 holds that it’s only permissible to turn the fan blades if one is directing the air towards him, but to direct the blades away from him would be forbidden.
# If moving the electronic will make it turn off or pause, it may not be moved at all- Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 13:35.
# If moving the electronic will make it turn off or pause, it may not be moved at all.<ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 13:35</ref>
==If it’s expensive==
==If it’s expensive==
#If the electronic is expensive enough that the owner is careful to make it doesn’t get broken, the electronic Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis according to everyone (Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 50), Shalmei Yehuda (pg 40)).
#If the electronic is expensive enough that the owner is careful to make it doesn’t get broken, the electronic [[Muktzeh Machmat Chisaron Kis]] according to everyone.<ref>Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 50), Shalmei Yehuda (pg 40)</ref>
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