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==General prohibition==
==General prohibition==
# [[Dash]] includes removing any earth-grown food from its natural shell or attachment.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 317) </ref>
# [[Dash]] includes removing any earth-grown food from its natural shell or attachment.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 317) based on the explanation of Rabbeinu Chananel (Shabbos 74a).
<br /> The Gemara Shabbos (75a) records a dispute between Rebbi Yehuda and the Chachamim whether the Melacha of Dosh only applies to giduley karka, meaning things that grow in the ground. The Rambam (hilchos Shabbos 8:7) rules like the Chachamim that mi’d’oraisa it only applies to giduley karka, and this is the opinion of most of the Rishonim. </ref>
==In the Mishkan==
# According to most Rishonim, the melacha of Dosh was done in the Mishkan by threshing the seeds from their shells so that they could be used for the dyes.<ref> 39 Melachos, vol. 2, pg. 315. The Eglei Tal (Introduction #1) quotes the opinion of some Rishonim who maintained that Dosh was done in preparation for the bread that was needed in the Mishkan, in which the case the melacha was removing the grain kernels from their chaff and stalk (39 Melachos, vol. 2, pg. 315). </ref> The Eglei Tal (Dosh #2:3) notes that there is a dispute amongst the Rishonim whether Dosh is only violated by removing something that is covered by its encasing, as was the case in the mishkan, or that any detachment from something unwanted would be a violation of Dosh.<ref> This is based on the machlokes between Rashi (73b s.v. mefareik) and Tosfos (73b s.v. v’achas) about how to explain why the Gemara says that one would be in violation of a toldah of Dosh when knocking off a tree. </ref>
==Toladot==
===Mefarek===
# Mefarek is a [[Toldah]] of Dosh. <ref>Rashi [[Shabbat]] 73b and Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 8:7 and 21:12) write that Mefarek is a [[Toldah]] of Dosh. </ref>
# Mefarek is a [[Toldah]] of Dosh. <ref>Rashi [[Shabbat]] 73b and Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 8:7 and 21:12) write that Mefarek is a [[Toldah]] of Dosh. </ref>
# Mefarek includes [[squeezing]] juice from fruit ([[Sechitah]]) or liquid from a cloth. <ref>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 8:10 and 21:12) writes that [[squeezing]] fruit ([[Sechitah]]) is a violation of Mefarek. 39 Melachos (Dosh note 113) quotes Tosfot Ketubot 6a s.v. Hay who holds that [[squeezing]] a liquid from a cloth is also considered Mefarek. </ref>
# Mefarek includes [[squeezing]] juice from fruit ([[Sechitah]]) or liquid from a cloth. <ref>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 8:10 and 21:12) writes that [[squeezing]] fruit ([[Sechitah]]) is a violation of Mefarek. 39 Melachos (Dosh note 113) quotes Tosfot Ketubot 6a s.v. Hay who holds that [[squeezing]] a liquid from a cloth is also considered Mefarek. </ref>