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# For the honor of the Torah it's permissible to dance on [[Simchat Torah]]. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1160) </ref>
# For the honor of the Torah it's permissible to dance on [[Simchat Torah]]. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1160) </ref>
==Rhythms or beats==
==Rhythms or beats==
# It is forbidden to play a musical instrument even if the sound produced isn't musical or rhythmic. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1159) </ref>Examples of instruments included are a whistle, rattles, bells, horns, and groggers. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1161) </ref>  
# It is forbidden to play a musical instrument even if the sound produced isn't musical or rhythmic. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1159) </ref>Examples of instruments included are whistles, rattles, bells, horns, and groggers. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1161) </ref>  
# It's forbidden to make music (a rhythm) using any tool or even one's hand. <ref> However, making music is another prohibition codified in Shulchan Aruch 338:1 based on a different source altogether. The Gemara Eiruvin 104a has a dispute between Rav Menashe (and Ulla) who forbids any production of sound and Rava who only forbids making music (קול של שיר). The Bet Yosef 338:1 quotes the Rif and Rambam 23:4 who hold like Rava and infers from the Rosh 10:20 that he also holds like Rava. However, the Rosh and Tur 338:1 quote the Rabbanu Chananel who holds like Rav Menashe. The reason of Rava isn’t clear from the Gemara, Rashi, or Tosfot. However, the Rambam 23:4 writes that the reason of the prohibition is the same as in the Mishna in Beitzah, so that one doesn’t come to fix an instrument. The Magan Avraham 338:1 clearly understands like the Rambam as he even writes that really there is room for being lenient as the Rama writes in 339:3. This is also codified in Mishna Brurah 338:1. The Mishna Brurah adds that the prohibition is not limited to a musical instrument and also applies to one's hand. </ref>
# It's forbidden to make music (a rhythm) using any tool or even one's hand. <ref> However, making music is another prohibition codified in Shulchan Aruch 338:1 based on a different source altogether. The Gemara Eiruvin 104a has a dispute between Rav Menashe (and Ulla) who forbids any production of sound and Rava who only forbids making music (קול של שיר). The Bet Yosef 338:1 quotes the Rif and Rambam 23:4 who hold like Rava and infers from the Rosh 10:20 that he also holds like Rava. However, the Rosh and Tur 338:1 quote the Rabbanu Chananel who holds like Rav Menashe. The reason of Rava isn’t clear from the Gemara, Rashi, or Tosfot. However, the Rambam 23:4 writes that the reason of the prohibition is the same as in the Mishna in Beitzah, so that one doesn’t come to fix an instrument. The Magan Avraham 338:1 clearly understands like the Rambam as he even writes that really there is room for being lenient as the Rama writes in 339:3. This is also codified in Mishna Brurah 338:1. The Mishna Brurah adds that the prohibition is not limited to a musical instrument and also applies to one's hand. </ref>
# Therefore, one may not knock on a door with one’s fist in a rhythm. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1160) based on Mishna Brurah 338:1 (see previous footnote for background). See Orchot [[Shabbat]] 2:21(21) who agrees with this. </ref>
# Therefore, one may not knock on a door with one’s fist in a rhythm. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, pg 1160) based on Mishna Brurah 338:1 (see previous footnote for background). See Orchot [[Shabbat]] 2:21(21) who agrees with this. </ref>