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#According to Ashkenazim, some say that the Minhag is to remove Challah with a Bracha when making a dough that is 5 pounds (2.27 kg) or more and remove Challah without a Bracha when making dough that is 3 pounds (1.35 kg) or more.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 324:1 and Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 35:1 write that the amount necessary in order to be obligated in Challah is 43.2 [[KeBaytzim]] of flour.[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/777708/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Parsha_Shiur_-_Shelach_5772 Rabbi Hershel Schachter on yutorah.org] (Shiur on Parshat Shalach, min 50) quotes Rav Eliyahu Yosef Henkin ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=2274&st=&pgnum=139 Edut LeYisrael page 138]) who says to remove Challah with a Bracha if the dough is 5 pounds or more and without a Bracha if the dough is 3 pounds or more. Ben Ish Hai, Halachot 2nd Year, Shmini 21 writes that the shiur of Challah is 777 dirhams or 5.14 pounds (using 3 grams per dirham).</ref> Others say that the Minhag of Yerushalyim is to take Challah off without a Bracha if the dough is 2.65 pounds (1200 grams) or more and to remove Challah with a Bracha if the dough is 3.67 pounds (1666 grams) or more.<ref>Halichot Shlomo (Moadim vol 2 pg 338 note 54) writes that this was the Minhag in Rav Shlomo Zalman’s house and that of Yerushalyim. Middot Vshiurei Torah p. 232 (Rav Chaim Beinish) agrees that this is the minhag Yerushalayim to take challah with a bracha for 3.67 pounds. Steipler in Shiurin Shel Torah (5716, p. 86) writes that one should take off challah without a bracha for flour of a bit more than 1200 grams, like Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach. A bracha is only recited if using more than 2.25 kg of flour, like Rav Henkin. | #According to Ashkenazim, some say that the Minhag is to remove Challah with a Bracha when making a dough that is 5 pounds (2.27 kg) or more and remove Challah without a Bracha when making dough that is 3 pounds (1.35 kg) or more.<ref>Shulchan Aruch YD 324:1 and Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 35:1 write that the amount necessary in order to be obligated in Challah is 43.2 [[KeBaytzim]] of flour.[http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/777708/Rabbi_Hershel_Schachter/Parsha_Shiur_-_Shelach_5772 Rabbi Hershel Schachter on yutorah.org] (Shiur on Parshat Shalach, min 50) quotes Rav Eliyahu Yosef Henkin ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=2274&st=&pgnum=139 Edut LeYisrael page 138]) who says to remove Challah with a Bracha if the dough is 5 pounds or more and without a Bracha if the dough is 3 pounds or more. Ben Ish Hai, Halachot 2nd Year, Shmini 21 writes that the shiur of Challah is 777 dirhams or 5.14 pounds (using 3 grams per dirham).</ref> Others say that the Minhag of Yerushalyim is to take Challah off without a Bracha if the dough is 2.65 pounds (1200 grams) or more and to remove Challah with a Bracha if the dough is 3.67 pounds (1666 grams) or more.<ref>Halichot Shlomo (Moadim vol 2 pg 338 note 54) writes that this was the Minhag in Rav Shlomo Zalman’s house and that of Yerushalyim. Middot Vshiurei Torah p. 232 (Rav Chaim Beinish) agrees that this is the minhag Yerushalayim to take challah with a bracha for 3.67 pounds. Shevet Halevi 11:253:3 holds that the minhag in Yerushalayim is to take challah with a bracha for 1.75kg (3.86lb) of flour. Steipler in Shiurin Shel Torah (5716, p. 86) writes that one should take off challah without a bracha for flour of a bit more than 1200 grams, like Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach. A bracha is only recited if using more than 2.25 kg of flour, like Rav Henkin. | ||
* Eliyah Rabba 456:1 quotes the Tosfot Yom Tov as holding that the measure to be obligated in challah is one pint in Prague. He cites that the Tzlach Pesachim 116b also quotes this Tosfot Yom Tov. Hidurei Hamiddot pp. 242-3 quotes the Middot Vmishkalot Shel Torah p. 231 who writes that the measure of sixteenth century Prague measure of a pint is 2.003L and in weight of flour that is approximately 2.3 pounds of flour (1 L of water = 1 kg; 1 kg = 2.2 lb; [https://www.traditionaloven.com/culinary-arts/flours/plain-flour/convert-liter-to-kilogram.html#:~:text=One%20liter%20of%20plain%20flour,equals%20to%200.53%20kg%20%2D%20kilo 1 L of water = 0.53 kg of flour]). | * Eliyah Rabba 456:1 quotes the Tosfot Yom Tov as holding that the measure to be obligated in challah is one pint in Prague. He cites that the Tzlach Pesachim 116b also quotes this Tosfot Yom Tov. Hidurei Hamiddot pp. 242-3 quotes the Middot Vmishkalot Shel Torah p. 231 who writes that the measure of sixteenth century Prague measure of a pint is 2.003L and in weight of flour that is approximately 2.3 pounds of flour (1 L of water = 1 kg; 1 kg = 2.2 lb; [https://www.traditionaloven.com/culinary-arts/flours/plain-flour/convert-liter-to-kilogram.html#:~:text=One%20liter%20of%20plain%20flour,equals%20to%200.53%20kg%20%2D%20kilo 1 L of water = 0.53 kg of flour]). | ||
* Magen Avraham 456:2 and Mishna Brurah 456:3 write that the shiur is 3 quarts. Hidurei Middot p. 243 cites that the Yesh Nochlin (Kavanat Tefillah n. 17, cited by Mekor Chaim OC 88:1) measured that the the Prague pint is equivalent to 3 old polish quarts. Those who quote 3 quarts: Mahari Vayil n. 193, Shach YD 324:3, Taz 606:6, Magen Avraham 456:2, Pri Megadim SD 97, Chayei Adam 128:15, Tevuot Shor (Bechor Shor Sanhedrin 93b), Bear Heitiv 88:2, Chavot Yair (Chut Hashani 97, Mekor Chaim 88:1, 456), Mishna Brurah 456:3, Maharsham (Techelet Mordechai Shabbat Hagadol n. 128), Aruch Hashulchan YD 324:3, and Eliya Rabba 456:11.</ref> | * Magen Avraham 456:2 and Mishna Brurah 456:3 write that the shiur is 3 quarts. Hidurei Middot p. 243 cites that the Yesh Nochlin (Kavanat Tefillah n. 17, cited by Mekor Chaim OC 88:1) measured that the the Prague pint is equivalent to 3 old polish quarts. Those who quote 3 quarts: Mahari Vayil n. 193, Shach YD 324:3, Taz 606:6, Magen Avraham 456:2, Pri Megadim SD 97, Chayei Adam 128:15, Tevuot Shor (Bechor Shor Sanhedrin 93b), Bear Heitiv 88:2, Chavot Yair (Chut Hashani 97, Mekor Chaim 88:1, 456), Mishna Brurah 456:3, Maharsham (Techelet Mordechai Shabbat Hagadol n. 128), Aruch Hashulchan YD 324:3, and Eliya Rabba 456:11.</ref> | ||
