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==Clarification of the First Condition: Good from Bad==
==Clarification of the First Condition: Good from Bad==
 
===Taking Good with Bad===
#It's permissible to remove the refuse together with a piece of a good food.<ref>Taz 319:13 writes that when removing a fly from a drink it’s permissible if one takes the fly with some liquid with it. Most achronim hold like the Taz including Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 80:19, Mishna Brurah 319:61, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:18, and The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 419).
#It's permissible to remove the refuse together with a piece of a good food.<ref>Taz 319:13 writes that when removing a fly from a drink it’s permissible if one takes the fly with some liquid with it. Most achronim hold like the Taz including Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 80:19, Mishna Brurah 319:61, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:18, and The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 419).
*Chazon Ish explained that the Taz means that since the fly was contained in a separate mixture of liquid removing that mixture entirely and not separating within the mixture is permissible. According to this, a significant amount of liquid must be removed with the fly so that it can form it’s own mixture.
*Chazon Ish explained that the Taz means that since the fly was contained in a separate mixture of liquid removing that mixture entirely and not separating within the mixture is permissible. According to this, a significant amount of liquid must be removed with the fly so that it can form it’s own mixture.
*However, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 104-5 in the note) writes that the Mishna Brurah disagrees with the Chazon Ish and concludes that a particle of liquid suffices and that the Taz’s leniency would apply to dry foods. The [[Shabbat]] kitchen explains that the reason of the Taz’s leniency is because of it’s not similar to the way borer is normally done.
*However, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 104-5 in the note) writes that the Mishna Brurah disagrees with the Chazon Ish and concludes that a particle of liquid suffices and that the Taz’s leniency would apply to dry foods. The [[Shabbat]] Kitchen explains that the reason of the Taz’s leniency is because of it’s not similar to the way borer is normally done.
*Iglai Tal #6 writes that the Taz’s leniency only allows you to do it right before the eating. [[Shabbos]] Kitchen argues that it should be permitted even for storing away. Menuchat Ahava 7:11 agrees. See Sh”t [[Tefillah]] lemoshe 1:49(9) who argues on the Chazon Ish.</ref> Nonetheless, one should make sure that one remove a substantial amount of good together with the bad.<ref>The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 421) </ref>
*Iglai Tal #6 writes that the Taz’s leniency only allows you to do it right before the eating. [[Shabbos]] Kitchen argues that it should be permitted even for storing away. Menuchat Ahava 7:11 agrees. See Sh”t [[Tefillah]] lemoshe 1:49(9) who argues on the Chazon Ish.</ref>  
# Some say that one should make sure that one remove a substantial amount of good together with the bad.<ref>The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 3 pg 421) based on Chazon Ish </ref>
===In One's Mouth===
#If one has food in one’s mouth one may remove what you don't want from what you want.<ref>Igrot Moshe O”C 4:74 Borer 7, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:11, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 103) </ref>
#If one has food in one’s mouth one may remove what you don't want from what you want.<ref>Igrot Moshe O”C 4:74 Borer 7, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:11, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 103) </ref>
#If a food has a peel that covers it entirely one may remove the part that’s unwanted (peel) from the part that’s desired (fruit), however this action must be done right before the meal and with one's hand.<ref>S”A 321:19, Beiur Halacha 321:19 s.v. LeKlof, Menuchat Ahava (vol 2 7:11), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:29 </ref>
===Peels===
#If a food has a peel that covers it entirely one may remove the part that’s unwanted (peel) from the part that’s desired (fruit), however this action must be done right before the meal and with one's hand.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 321:19, Beiur Halacha 321:19 s.v. LeKlof, Menuchat Ahava (vol 2 7:11), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:29 </ref>
#Where it’s impossible to separate the food from the waste it’s permissible to take out the waste. For example, one who cuts open a cantaloupe may scoop out the seeds and leave the fruit.<ref>[[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 103) in name of Rav Scheinberg </ref>
#Where it’s impossible to separate the food from the waste it’s permissible to take out the waste. For example, one who cuts open a cantaloupe may scoop out the seeds and leave the fruit.<ref>[[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 103) in name of Rav Scheinberg </ref>
#It is permissible to remove an inedible shell or peel from a food as long as it’s done by hand and immediately prior to eating. Examples include:
*eggshells
*onion peel
*potato peel
*banana peel
*sausages peel
*melon peel
*peanut shell <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:31,34, Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 7:7) </ref>


====Taking refuse from the food====
====Taking Refuse from the Food====


#It is forbidden to separate on [[Shabbat]] by taking the refuse from the food. It is forbidden even when it’s done with one hand.<ref>S”A 319:4 writes that it’s forbidden to take the refuse from food even with one hand. Mishna Brurah 319:17 writes that even though some don’t have the words “one hand” in S”A, still one shouldn’t be lenient to take to take refuse from food with one hand. This halacha is also found in Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:22. </ref>
#It is forbidden to separate on [[Shabbat]] by taking the refuse from the food. It is forbidden even when it’s done with one hand.<ref>S”A 319:4 writes that it’s forbidden to take the refuse from food even with one hand. Mishna Brurah 319:17 writes that even though some don’t have the words “one hand” in S”A, still one shouldn’t be lenient to take to take refuse from food with one hand. This halacha is also found in Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:22. </ref>
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#It’s forbidden to separate refuse from food even if the refuse is slightly edible.<ref>Mishna Brurah 319:7 writes that it’s forbidden MeDerabbanan to separate the refuse from the food even if a refuse is slightly edible. </ref>
#It’s forbidden to separate refuse from food even if the refuse is slightly edible.<ref>Mishna Brurah 319:7 writes that it’s forbidden MeDerabbanan to separate the refuse from the food even if a refuse is slightly edible. </ref>


====Taking a desired food from an undesired one====
====Taking a Desired Food from an Undesired One====


#If there are two foods that are mixed and one wants one to eat one now and not the other, the one he wants to eat is called the ‘food’ and the unwanted one is called the ‘refuse’ and so it is forbidden to take the unwanted one from the other.<ref>S”A 319:10, Mishna Brurah 319:13-4, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen pg 86 </ref>
#If there are two foods that are mixed and one wants one to eat one now and not the other, the one he wants to eat is called the ‘food’ and the unwanted one is called the ‘refuse’ and so it is forbidden to take the unwanted one from the other.<ref>S”A 319:10, Mishna Brurah 319:13-4, [[Shabbos]] Kitchen pg 86 </ref>
#For example, if almonds and walnuts are mixed, and one only intends to eat the almonds, one may take the almonds from the mixture but not the walnuts.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:3 </ref>
#For example, if almonds and walnuts are mixed, and one only intends to eat the almonds, one may take the almonds from the mixture but not the walnuts.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:3 </ref>


====Separating two foods to be used for later====
====Separating Two Foods to be Used for Later====


#If there’s two foods (meaning both are desired for use) there’s a dispute whether one is allowed to separate for later use, Ashkenazim should be strict and Sephardim may be lenient.<ref>The Pri Megadim (M”Z 319:2) writes that there’s a logic to permit separating two foods if one will eat both but just after some time since in this case there’s no food being taken from refuse, and concludes with a Tzarich Iyun. However, the Mishna Brurah (319:12, Beiur Halacha 319:3 s.v. Hayu) based on Tosafot [[Shabbat]] 74a d"h "hay lifanav shnei mini ochlin" argues that it’s a definite violation of Borer to separate the two foods. Or Letzion (vol 2 chap 31 note 4), Menuchat Ahava, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (84) rule like Mishna Brurah. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 3 pg 279; see Sh”t Yabia Omer 5:31:5) brings two opinions and leaves it as a doubt. Sh”t Maharshag 1:54 also leaves this question in doubt. </ref>
#If there’s two foods (meaning both are desired for use) there’s a dispute whether one is allowed to separate for later use, Ashkenazim should be strict and Sephardim may be lenient.<ref>The Pri Megadim (M”Z 319:2) writes that there’s a logic to permit separating two foods if one will eat both but just after some time since in this case there’s no food being taken from refuse, and concludes with a Tzarich Iyun. However, the Mishna Brurah (319:12, Beiur Halacha 319:3 s.v. Hayu) based on Tosafot [[Shabbat]] 74a d"h "hay lifanav shnei mini ochlin" argues that it’s a definite violation of Borer to separate the two foods. Or Letzion (vol 2 chap 31 note 4), Menuchat Ahava, and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (84) rule like Mishna Brurah. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 3 pg 279; see Sh”t Yabia Omer 5:31:5) brings two opinions and leaves it as a doubt. Sh”t Maharshag 1:54 also leaves this question in doubt. </ref>
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#It’s permissible to crack a nut with a nutcracker.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:38 explains that a nutcracker just breaks the shell but doesn’t complete the separation. </ref>
#It’s permissible to crack a nut with a nutcracker.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:38 explains that a nutcracker just breaks the shell but doesn’t complete the separation. </ref>
#If a candy wrapper got stuck to the candy, one should only remove the wrapper right before eating.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:39 </ref>
#If a candy wrapper got stuck to the candy, one should only remove the wrapper right before eating.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:39 </ref>
===Peeling===
#It is permissible to remove an inedible shell or peel from a food as long as it’s done by hand and immediately prior to eating. Examples include:
*eggshells
*onion peel
*potato peel
*banana peel
*sausages peel
*melon peel
*peanut shell <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:31,34, Menuchat Ahava (vol 2, 7:7) </ref>


==Clarification of the Second Condition: With One's Hand==
==Clarification of the Second Condition: With One's Hand==
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