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==Separating for other people==
==Separating for other people==


#One is permitted to separate for other people as long as one does it for immediate use, with one’s hand, and food from the refuse. <ref>Rama 319:1 writes that it’s permissible to separate for others to eat. Mishna Brurah 319:6 clarifies that it’s permissible even if one is preparing for others but he himself isn’t eating from the food that was separated. </ref>
#One is permitted to separate for other people as long as one does it for immediate use, with one’s hand, and food from the refuse. <ref>Rama 319:1 writes that it’s permissible to separate for others to eat. Mishna Brurah 319:6 clarifies that it’s permissible even if one is preparing for others but he himself isn’t eating from the food that was separated. See Chazon Ovadia Shabbat Vol. 4 page 183 </ref>
#One is permitted to separate for guests (or peel fruits) enough food that it should be presentable even if one knows that not all of the food will be eaten. <ref>Sh”t Rav Pealim 1:12 writes that it’s logical that it’s permissible to separate food to fill a plate or basket for guests even if the guests won’t eat all the food because one is separating for an immediate purpose of serving the guests respectfully. This is also the opinion of Ben Ish Chai (Beshalach 3), Or Letzion (vol 2 chap 31:3), and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata (chap 3:40 note 115) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman. </ref>
#One is permitted to separate for guests (or peel fruits) enough food that it should be presentable even if one knows that not all of the food will be eaten. <ref>Sh”t Rav Pealim 1:12 writes that it’s logical that it’s permissible to separate food to fill a plate or basket for guests even if the guests won’t eat all the food because one is separating for an immediate purpose of serving the guests respectfully. This is also the opinion of Ben Ish Chai (Beshalach 3), Or Letzion (vol 2 chap 31:3), and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchata (chap 3:40 note 115) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman.
 
Rav Ovadia Yosef (Chazon Ovadia Shabbat Vol. 4, pg 185-186 (footnote 7)) disagrees and says you can only separate the necessary amount for guests to eat.  </ref>
#It’s permitted to separate for animals as long as it’s for immediate use, with one’s hand, and one separates the food from the refuse. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:7 </ref>
#It’s permitted to separate for animals as long as it’s for immediate use, with one’s hand, and one separates the food from the refuse. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:7 </ref>


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===Coffee Filters and French Press===
===Coffee Filters and French Press===
[[Image:Coffee_filter.jpg|right|150px]]
[[Image:Coffee_filter.jpg|right|150px]]
#It is forbidden to use a French press on Shabbat. However, it is permitted to use a coffee filter on Shabbat, by placing the coffee grinds on the filter, and pouring the water through them. This is only true of the issue of Borer, however, it is forbidden to cook on Shabbat and so it would only be permitted to use a coffee if the water being used is a Kli Shelishi (according to those who allow using a Kli Shelishi).<ref>[https://sites.google.com/site/asktherabbieretzhemdah/home/coffee-filter-on-shabbat Article on Eretz Chemda's Site] writes that it is permitted to use a coffee filter on Shabbat since it is similar to the case of a strainer used for wine in the Mishna Shabbat 137. However, it is forbidden to use a french press since that involves using a kli to separate a mixture.[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/855590/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-filtering-coffee-and-french-press-on-shabbos-and-yom-tov/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] agreed that it is permitted to use the coffee filter based on Shulchan Aruch 319:9 but not a french press since that involves your action to separate the mixture.</ref>
#It is forbidden to use a French press on Shabbat. However, it is permitted to use a coffee filter on Shabbat, by placing the coffee grinds on the filter, and pouring the water through them. This is only true of the issue of Borer, however, it is forbidden to cook on Shabbat and so it would only be permitted to use a coffee if the water being used is a Kli Shelishi (according to those who allow using a Kli Shelishi).<ref>[https://sites.google.com/site/asktherabbieretzhemdah/home/coffee-filter-on-shabbat Article on Eretz Chemda's Site] writes that it is permitted to use a coffee filter on Shabbat since it is similar to the case of a strainer used for wine in the Mishna Shabbat 137. However, it is forbidden to use a french press since that involves using a kli to separate a mixture.[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/855590/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-filtering-coffee-and-french-press-on-shabbos-and-yom-tov/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] agreed that it is permitted to use the coffee filter based on Shulchan Aruch 319:9 but not a french press since that involves your action to separate the mixture.</ref>
#On Yom Tov it is permitted to use a French press or a coffee filter to make coffee.<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/855590/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-filtering-coffee-and-french-press-on-shabbos-and-yom-tov/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] explains that since cooking and Borer are permitted on Yom Tov for the purpose of Ochel Nefesh as long as the food couldn't have been made in the same way before Yom Tov it is permitted to use a coffee filter or French press on Yom Tov to make coffee.</ref>
#On Yom Tov it is permitted to use a French press or a coffee filter to make coffee.<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/855590/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-filtering-coffee-and-french-press-on-shabbos-and-yom-tov/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] explains that since cooking and Borer are permitted on Yom Tov for the purpose of Ochel Nefesh as long as the food couldn't have been made in the same way before Yom Tov it is permitted to use a coffee filter or French press on Yom Tov to make coffee.</ref>
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#Cutlery of different kind (knife, spoon, fork) and of different functions (cutlery for dairy and cutlery for meat, a serving spoon and a regular spoon) constitute a mixture. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:78,80 </ref>
#Cutlery of different kind (knife, spoon, fork) and of different functions (cutlery for dairy and cutlery for meat, a serving spoon and a regular spoon) constitute a mixture. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:78,80 </ref>
#One is forbidden from sorting a jumbled assortment of toys. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:83 </ref>
#One is forbidden from sorting a jumbled assortment of toys. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:83 </ref>
# Separating cards as part of a game is a question of borer.<ref>Rav Asher Weiss Shabbat p. 327 writes several reasons why it could be allowed to separate cards in order to play cards but concludes that one shouldn't rely on them which they not brought in the earlier poskim. His reasons are perhaps one uses all of the cards equally, so it is considered one type (Rama 319:3). Also, the purpose of the separating isn't to accomplish anything since it is purely a game. Lastly, the cards aren't a food and some say that there isn't borer on non-foods (see Maharshag 1:54, 57).</reF>
#Separating cards as part of a game is a question of borer.<ref>Rav Asher Weiss Shabbat p. 327 writes several reasons why it could be allowed to separate cards in order to play cards but concludes that one shouldn't rely on them which they not brought in the earlier poskim. His reasons are perhaps one uses all of the cards equally, so it is considered one type (Rama 319:3). Also, the purpose of the separating isn't to accomplish anything since it is purely a game. Lastly, the cards aren't a food and some say that there isn't borer on non-foods (see Maharshag 1:54, 57).</ref>
#One may not organize a stack of papers in an order unless one intends on reading them immediately. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:84 </ref>
#One may not organize a stack of papers in an order unless one intends on reading them immediately. <ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:84 </ref>


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