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# It is forbidden to place a container underneath a dripping wax candle on [[Shabbat]] because the wax is [[muktzah]] and falling into the container will make the container [[muktzah]]. <ref>Mishnah [[Shabbat]] 3:4, opinion of Rav Chisda in Gemara [[Shabbat]] 42b-43a, Rambam [[Shabbat]] 25:23, Shulchan Aruch 265:3, Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 265:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 75:11 </ref> One can circumvent this by placing something else important in the container as well <ref> Mishna Brura 265:6 </ref> However, one can place it before [[Shabbat]] and leave it there during [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 265:8, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 75:11 </ref>
# It is forbidden to place a container underneath a dripping wax candle on [[Shabbat]] because the wax is [[muktzah]] and falling into the container will make the container [[muktzah]]. <ref>Mishnah [[Shabbat]] 3:4, opinion of Rav Chisda in Gemara [[Shabbat]] 42b-43a, Rambam [[Shabbat]] 25:23, Shulchan Aruch 265:3, Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 265:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 75:11 </ref> One can circumvent this by placing something else important in the container as well <ref> Mishna Brura 265:6 </ref> However, one can place it before [[Shabbat]] and leave it there during [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Aruch Hashulchan 265:8, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 75:11 </ref>
# One who doesn't want the sparks of the candles to fly around my place a container under the fire to catch the sparks, since they are insignificant. However, he should not put in water because then he is extinguishing the fire before it otherwise would have gone out. <Ref> Gemara [[Shabbat]] 47b, Shulchan Aruch 265:4 </ref>
# One who doesn't want the sparks of the candles to fly around my place a container under the fire to catch the sparks, since they are insignificant. However, he should not put in water because then he is extinguishing the fire before it otherwise would have gone out. <Ref> Gemara [[Shabbat]] 47b, Shulchan Aruch 265:4 </ref>
# It is permissible to remove a [[Tallit]] from the [[Tefillin]] bag because one is not actively ruining the use of the [[Tefillin]] bag and some are strict to put a siddur in the bag before removing the [[Tallit]]. <ref> Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 2 pg 357, 482, and 641) rules that even according to those who hold that [[Tefillin]] is [[Muktzeh]] it is permissible to remove a [[Tallit]] from the [[Tefillin]] bag because one is not actively ruining the use of the [[Tefillin]] bag and some are strict to put a siddur in the bag before removing the [[Tallit]]. In the footnote there he writes that there are several reasons to be lenient; he writes that based on the מאירי there’s no prohibition of Mevatel Kli Mehechano when it’s only done passively. Additionally, it’s questionable whether [[Tefillin]] are mutkzah and even if they are it’s questionable whether the prohibition of Mevatel Kli Mehechano applies to [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] (or only [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]). He doesn’t explain the reason for those who are strict in the footnote. </ref>
# It is permissible to remove a [[Tallit]] from the [[Tefillin]] bag because one is not actively ruining the use of the [[Tefillin]] bag and some are strict to put a siddur in the bag before removing the [[Tallit]]. <ref>Meiri 142a s.v. kikar, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata ch. 22 fnt. 40, Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 2 p. 376. Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 2 pg 357, 482, and 641) rules that even according to those who hold that [[Tefillin]] is [[Muktzeh]] it is permissible to remove a [[Tallit]] from the [[Tefillin]] bag because one is not actively ruining the use of the [[Tefillin]] bag and some are strict to put a siddur in the bag before removing the [[Tallit]]. In the footnote there he writes that there are several reasons to be lenient; he writes that based on the מאירי there’s no prohibition of Mevatel Kli Mehechano when it’s only done passively. Additionally, it’s questionable whether [[Tefillin]] are mutkzah and even if they are it’s questionable whether the prohibition of Mevatel Kli Mehechano applies to [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] (or only [[Muktzeh Machmat Gufo]]). He doesn’t explain the reason for those who are strict in the footnote. </ref>
#Sephardim hold that it is forbidden to make something forbidden to move even if one could tilt off the muktzeh and has intention to do so.<ref>Ran 66b s.v. diy, Rashba 154b s.v. ha, and Maggid Mishna Shabbat 25:10. Bet Yosef 265:3 accepts this opinion against the Baal Hameor and Hagahot Ashri Shabbat 3:18.</ref> If the muktzeh is garbage some are lenient.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (265:8, 5771 Shabbat v. 2 p. 259)</ref> Ashkenazim are lenient.<ref>Hagahot Ashri Shabbat 3:18, Magen Avraham 265:2, Mishna Brurah 265:5, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 213 quoting Rav Elyashiv</ref>
#Sephardim hold that it is forbidden to make something forbidden to move even if one could tilt off the muktzeh and has intention to do so.<ref>Ran 66b s.v. diy, Rashba 154b s.v. ha, and Maggid Mishna Shabbat 25:10. Bet Yosef 265:3 accepts this opinion against the Baal Hameor and Hagahot Ashri Shabbat 3:18.</ref> If the muktzeh is garbage some are lenient.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (265:8, 5771 Shabbat v. 2 p. 259)</ref> Ashkenazim are lenient.<ref>Hagahot Ashri Shabbat 3:18, Magen Avraham 265:2, Mishna Brurah 265:5, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 213 quoting Rav Elyashiv</ref>
# For Sephardim some say that one should not almond or other nut shells on a plate without first placing something non-muktzeh food on that same plate. Otherwise by placing the shells on the plate the plate will become a bosis and in doing so one has violated ''bitul kli mehechano''.<ref>Ben Ish Chai (Miketz n. 16) writes that one should place something permitted on the plate before putting down muktzeh shells which are inedible in order not to violate bitul kli mehechano. This assumes that it is forbidden to create a temporary bosis. That is in line with Bet Yosef 265:3. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Kol Sinai p. 102, Chazon Ovadia Yom Tov p. 27, and Halichot Olam v. 3 p. 211 agreed with the Ben Ish Chai. (See Tiferet Mishna Brurah 308:102 which seems to cite Kol Sinai differently.) However, Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 3 pp. 211-4 retracted and points out that according to many rishonim including the Ramban, Rashba, Ritva, Ran, and Meiri it is permitted to tilt off the muktzeh since it was only placed there mid-Shabbat and one had intention to remove it. Also, the nut shells are insignificant. Yalkut Yosef (265:8, 5771 Shabbat v. 2 p. 259) notes this seeming contradiction and answers that originally he wrote that we are strict for the Bet Yosef and in the last writing he added that we can lenient if the muktzeh is insignificant. </ref> Ashkenazim can be lenient since one has intentions to clear the shells off the plate afterwards.<ref>Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 213 quoting Rav Elyashiv</ref>
# For Sephardim some say that one should not almond or other nut shells on a plate without first placing something non-muktzeh food on that same plate. Otherwise by placing the shells on the plate the plate will become a bosis and in doing so one has violated ''bitul kli mehechano''.<ref>Ben Ish Chai (Miketz n. 16) writes that one should place something permitted on the plate before putting down muktzeh shells which are inedible in order not to violate bitul kli mehechano. This assumes that it is forbidden to create a temporary bosis. That is in line with Bet Yosef 265:3. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Kol Sinai p. 102, Chazon Ovadia Yom Tov p. 27, and Halichot Olam v. 3 p. 211 agreed with the Ben Ish Chai. (See Tiferet Mishna Brurah 308:102 which seems to cite Kol Sinai differently.) However, Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 3 pp. 211-4 retracted and points out that according to many rishonim including the Ramban, Rashba, Ritva, Ran, and Meiri it is permitted to tilt off the muktzeh since it was only placed there mid-Shabbat and one had intention to remove it. Also, the nut shells are insignificant. Yalkut Yosef (265:8, 5771 Shabbat v. 2 p. 259) notes this seeming contradiction and answers that originally he wrote that we are strict for the Bet Yosef and in the last writing he added that we can lenient if the muktzeh is insignificant. </ref> Ashkenazim can be lenient since one has intentions to clear the shells off the plate afterwards.<ref>Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 213 quoting Rav Elyashiv</ref>