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==General rule==
# If one grinds a vegetable or grain not from the five grains and cook it, if the vegetable is still recognizable in the product then the Bracha is the same the vegetable, however if it’s ground and unrecognizable then the Bracha is shehakol unless it’s still intact. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 202:42 writes that the halacha is if the vegetables were crushed but still it’s intact then it retains the original Bracha, whereas if it’s crushed and unrecognizable the Bracha is Shehakol. So holds Vezot HaBracha (pg 100, chapter 12) and Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 403-4, chapter 22) </ref>
==Peanut butter==
# Peanut butter is Shehakol because it’s because crushed and unrecognizable as a peanut. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 410, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman </ref>
==Jam and Jelly==
==Jam and Jelly==
# The Bracha on a jam or jelly is the same as the actual fruit only if peices of the fruit are recognizable in it. Otherwise, the bracha is shehakol. <ref> The book Laws of Brachot (by Rabbi Binyomin Forst) in the index writes that for apricot jam- there's a shehakol if there's no solid pieces in the jam, and HaEtz if there's solid pieces in it. However, by Etrog Jam he writes simply that it's HaEtz. The book VeZot HaBracha (by Rabbi Alexander Aryeh) writes that for Etrog as a jam the bracha is HaEtz only if it has pieces of fruit it in that are recognizable. It seems to me that the bracha on jam is always dependent on whether you recognize the pieces in it- there being no difference between Etrog and any other fruit. It's possible that the etrog jams are usually chunky and other fruits sometimes have chucks and sometimes not. </ref>
# The Bracha on a jam or jelly is the same as the actual fruit only if peices of the fruit are recognizable in it. Otherwise, the bracha is shehakol. <ref> The book Laws of Brachot (by Rabbi Binyomin Forst) in the index writes that for apricot jam- there's a shehakol if there's no solid pieces in the jam, and HaEtz if there's solid pieces in it. However, by Etrog Jam he writes simply that it's HaEtz. The book VeZot HaBracha (by Rabbi Alexander Aryeh) writes that for Etrog as a jam the bracha is HaEtz only if it has pieces of fruit it in that are recognizable. It seems to me that the bracha on jam is always dependent on whether you recognize the pieces in it- there being no difference between Etrog and any other fruit. It's possible that the etrog jams are usually chunky and other fruits sometimes have chucks and sometimes not. </ref>
# Strawberry or cherry jelly is Shehakol because it retains neither the form or look of the fruit. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 404, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman and Rabbi Pinchas Sheinburg</ref>


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Revision as of 02:43, 4 August 2011

General rule

  1. If one grinds a vegetable or grain not from the five grains and cook it, if the vegetable is still recognizable in the product then the Bracha is the same the vegetable, however if it’s ground and unrecognizable then the Bracha is shehakol unless it’s still intact. [1]

Peanut butter

  1. Peanut butter is Shehakol because it’s because crushed and unrecognizable as a peanut. [2]

Jam and Jelly

  1. The Bracha on a jam or jelly is the same as the actual fruit only if peices of the fruit are recognizable in it. Otherwise, the bracha is shehakol. [3]
  2. Strawberry or cherry jelly is Shehakol because it retains neither the form or look of the fruit. [4]

References

  1. Mishna Brurah 202:42 writes that the halacha is if the vegetables were crushed but still it’s intact then it retains the original Bracha, whereas if it’s crushed and unrecognizable the Bracha is Shehakol. So holds Vezot HaBracha (pg 100, chapter 12) and Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 403-4, chapter 22)
  2. Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 410, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman
  3. The book Laws of Brachot (by Rabbi Binyomin Forst) in the index writes that for apricot jam- there's a shehakol if there's no solid pieces in the jam, and HaEtz if there's solid pieces in it. However, by Etrog Jam he writes simply that it's HaEtz. The book VeZot HaBracha (by Rabbi Alexander Aryeh) writes that for Etrog as a jam the bracha is HaEtz only if it has pieces of fruit it in that are recognizable. It seems to me that the bracha on jam is always dependent on whether you recognize the pieces in it- there being no difference between Etrog and any other fruit. It's possible that the etrog jams are usually chunky and other fruits sometimes have chucks and sometimes not.
  4. Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 404, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman and Rabbi Pinchas Sheinburg