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#There is a discussion as to which laws one is obligated to follow the dina d'malchusa:
#There is a discussion as to which laws one is obligated to follow the dina d'malchusa:
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina only applies to laws related directly to the land (i.e. real estate).<ref>Re'em brought in Beis Yosef C.M. 369</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina only applies to laws related directly to the land (i.e. real estate).<ref>Re'em brought in Beis Yosef C.M. 369</ref><ref>Rama C.M. 369:8. Rav Asher Weiss Responsa Minchas Asher 2:121:4:3 suggests that this works nicely with the opinion of the Ran quoted above that dina d'malchusa works because the land belongs to the king. However, according to the Rashbam quoted above that dina d'malchusa is a social contract, there is no reason to distinguish between laws related to the land and other laws.</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to all financial matters<ref>Ra’aviah brought in Beis Yosef C.M. 369</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to all financial matters<ref>Ra’aviah brought in Beis Yosef C.M. 369</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to government legislation, but not to rulings of the secular court. <ref>Sema 369:21 trying to resolve a contradiction between Rama C.M. 369:8 where he says dina d'malchusa applies across the board and 369:11 where he limits it to things which are beneficial for the king or for the good of the people, but not about going to secular court (as this would abolish Jewish law)</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to government legislation, but not to rulings of the secular court. <ref>Sema 369:21 trying to resolve a contradiction between Rama C.M. 369:8 where he says dina d'malchusa applies across the board and 369:11 where he limits it to things which are beneficial for the king or for the good of the people, but not about going to secular court (as this would abolish Jewish law)</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to government legislation and rulings of the secular court whenever they are for the benefit of society, but personal matters are not under the jurisdiction of dina d'malchusa.<ref>Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igros Moshe C.M. 2:62) quotes the Sema's explanation and disagrees discussing bankruptcy laws</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa dina applies to government legislation and rulings of the secular court whenever they are for the benefit of society, but personal matters are not under the jurisdiction of dina d'malchusa.<ref>Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igros Moshe C.M. 2:62) quotes the Sema's explanation and disagrees discussing bankruptcy laws</ref>
##Some say that dina d'malchusa applies to any laws that are for the benefit of society.<ref>Rav Asher Weiss (Parashas Chukas, B’inyan Dina D’malchusa Dina. See also Responsa Minchas Asher vol. II, end of 121 and 124) where  he applies dina d'malchusa to cases such as traffic laws, sanitation laws, and mandatory inoculation.</ref>
#Dina D'malchusa is ineffective in causing an Asmachta to be binding.<ref>Emek Hamishpat 1:31:18 citing Maharsham in Mishpat Shalom 207:15</ref>
#Dina D'malchusa is ineffective in causing an Asmachta to be binding.<ref>Emek Hamishpat 1:31:18 citing Maharsham in Mishpat Shalom 207:15</ref>
#Dina D'malchusa is not limited to financial matters, but applies to any laws that are for the benefit of society.<ref>Rav Asher Weiss (Parashas Chukas, B’inyan Dina D’malchusa Dina. See also Responsa Minchas Asher vol. II, end of 121 and 124) where  he applies dina d'malchusa to cases such as traffic laws, sanitation laws, and mandatory inoculation.</ref> Others say Dina D'Malchusa is limited to laws related to land.<ref>Rama C.M. 369:8. Rav Asher Weiss Responsa Minchas Asher 2:121:4:3 suggests that this works nicely with the opinion of the Ran quoted above that dina d'malchusa works because the land belongs to the king. However, according to the Rashbam quoted above that dina d'malchusa is a social contract, there is no reason to distinguish between laws related to the land and other laws.</ref>
#We do not say Dina D'Malchusa when it contradicts the laws of the Torah.<ref>Shach C.M. 73:39. Rav Asher Weiss Minchas Asher 2:122 explains that this means we don't follow the dina d'malchusa when it contradicts with Torah values</ref>
#We do not say Dina D'Malchusa when it contradicts the laws of the Torah.<ref>Shach C.M. 73:39. Rav Asher Weiss Minchas Asher 2:122 explains that this means we don't follow the dina d'malchusa when it contradicts with Torah values</ref>