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	#One should buy a talit katan for a child who has reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 17:3 based on Sukkah 42a, Rambam Hilchot Tzitzit 3:9. The Rama there writes, based on Haghot Maimoniyot (Hilchot Tzitzit Perek 3) that the idea is that once a child knows how to properly wear the Tzitzit so that two strings are behind him and two in front.		# One should buy a talit katan for a child who has reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 17:3 based on Sukkah 42a, Rambam Hilchot Tzitzit 3:9. The Rama there writes, based on Haghot Maimoniyot (Hilchot Tzitzit Perek 3) that the idea is that once a child knows how to properly wear the Tzitzit so that two strings are behind him and two in front.
	<br>Aruch HaShulchan 17:5 asks why one is obligated to buy his child a talit, as the mitzvah of tzitzit is limited to one who is wearing a four-cornered garment. So if one doesn't have the garment, there is no requirement! Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (Children in Halacha page 15 footnote 8) quotes the Bach s.v. katan that since the custom is that everyone wears tzitzit, one is obligated in chinuch of this custom as well.</ref>		<br>Aruch HaShulchan 17:5 asks why one is obligated to buy his child a talit, as the mitzvah of tzitzit is limited to one who is wearing a four-cornered garment. So if one doesn't have the garment, there is no requirement! Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (Children in Halacha page 15 footnote 8) quotes the Bach s.v. katan that since the custom is that everyone wears tzitzit, one is obligated in chinuch of this custom as well.<br>
			see [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/800812/rabbi-zvi-sobolofsky/tzitzis-part-7-children-and-kedusha-of-tzitzis-/ Children and Kedusha of Tzitzis] by Rabbi Zvi Sobolofsky</ref>
	# There are a variety of opinions for the age of chinuch for talit katan		# There are a variety of opinions for the age of chinuch for talit katan
	## Some say the age of three.<ref>Shaare Teshuva 17:2, Aruch HaShulchan 17:5, Kitzur Shela (cited in Shu"t Lev Chaim 1:101)</ref>		## Some say the age of three.<ref>Shaare Teshuva 17:2, Aruch HaShulchan 17:5, Kitzur Shela (cited in Shu"t Lev Chaim 1:101)</ref>
	## Some say it is six or seven.<ref>Bach 16 s.v. umah shekasiv rabbaynu, Shu"t Yechave Daat 4:2, Yalkut Yosef Dinei Chinuch Katan pg. 29, Shu"T Lev Chaim 1:101<br>		## Some say it is six or seven.<ref>Bach 16 s.v. umah shekasiv rabbaynu, Shu"t Yechave Daat 4:2, Yalkut Yosef Dinei Chinuch Katan pg. 29, Shu"T Lev Chaim 1:101<br>
	Shu"t Ohr Letzion 2:2:7 (pg. 30)</ref>		Shu"t Ohr Letzion 2:2:7 (pg. 30) says that the age is around 5</ref>
	## Others says that it is nine.<ref>Magen Avraham 16:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano 9:2. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that ~~under~~ the age of nine, the talit katan ~~does not need~~ the proper ~~measurements~~. ~~Aruch HaShulchan~~ 16:5 says a talit katan ~~has no shiur~~.</ref>		## Others says that it is nine.<ref>Magen Avraham 16:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano 9:2. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that for a child above the age of nine, one should be sure that the talit katan is the proper size</ref>
			# Regarding the size, it is proper to get the child a shirt that will cover his head and most of his body, subject to the actual size of that individual child. <ref>Mishna Berura 17:9 based on Pri Megadim in Siman 16, and Derech Hachaim.<br>
			Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that for a child above the age of nine, one should be sure that the talit katan is the proper size. see there where he gives a rationale for those who are not strict to get a garment that is big enough for the child and ties it to a more general disagreement about whether the mitzva of chinuch for mitzvot requires that we teach the child to perform the mitzva fully
			</ref>If it is big enough, the child should be taught to say the beracha. If not, he can wear it without a beracha.<ref>Mishna Berura 17:9 based on Pri Megadim in Siman 16 and Derech Hachaim, Shu"t Shevet Halevi 3:6 see Halichot Shlomo pg. 26 in the name of Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach who says that you do not need to rebuke those who allow their children to recite a beracha on a garment that isn't the requisite size</ref>

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	#One should buy a talit katan for a child who has reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 17:3. The ~~Shulchan Aruch~~ (~~17:~~3) ~~does not specify an exact age, rather~~ the idea is once a child knows how to properly wear the Tzitzit so that two strings are behind him and two in front ~~(Rema 17:3)~~.		#One should buy a talit katan for a child who has reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 17:3 based on Sukkah 42a, Rambam Hilchot Tzitzit 3:9. The Rama there writes, based on Haghot Maimoniyot (Hilchot Tzitzit Perek 3) that the idea is that once a child knows how to properly wear the Tzitzit so that two strings are behind him and two in front.
	<br>Aruch HaShulchan 17:5 asks why one is obligated to buy his child a talit, as the mitzvah of tzitzit is limited to one who is wearing a four-cornered garment. So if one doesn't have the garment, there is no requirement! Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (Children in Halacha page 15 footnote 8) quotes the Bach s.v. katan that since the custom is that everyone wears tzitzit, one is obligated in chinuch of this custom as well.</ref>		<br>Aruch HaShulchan 17:5 asks why one is obligated to buy his child a talit, as the mitzvah of tzitzit is limited to one who is wearing a four-cornered garment. So if one doesn't have the garment, there is no requirement! Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (Children in Halacha page 15 footnote 8) quotes the Bach s.v. katan that since the custom is that everyone wears tzitzit, one is obligated in chinuch of this custom as well.</ref>
	# There are a variety of opinions for the age of chinuch for talit katan		# There are a variety of opinions for the age of chinuch for talit katan
	## Some say the age of three.<ref>Shaare Teshuva 17:2 ~~and~~ Aruch HaShulchan 17:5</ref>		## Some say the age of three.<ref>Shaare Teshuva 17:2, Aruch HaShulchan 17:5, Kitzur Shela (cited in Shu"t Lev Chaim 1:101)</ref>
	## Some say it is six or seven.<ref>Bach 16 s.v. umah shekasiv rabbaynu, Yalkut Yosef Dinei Chinuch Katan pg. 29</ref>		## Some say it is six or seven.<ref>Bach 16 s.v. umah shekasiv rabbaynu, Shu"t Yechave Daat 4:2, Yalkut Yosef Dinei Chinuch Katan pg. 29, Shu"T Lev Chaim 1:101<br>
			Shu"t Ohr Letzion 2:2:7 (pg. 30)</ref>
	## Others says that it is nine.<ref>Magen Avraham 16:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano 9:2. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that under the age of nine, the talit katan does not need the proper measurements. Aruch HaShulchan 16:5 says a talit katan has no shiur.</ref>		## Others says that it is nine.<ref>Magen Avraham 16:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano 9:2. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that under the age of nine, the talit katan does not need the proper measurements. Aruch HaShulchan 16:5 says a talit katan has no shiur.</ref>

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#One should buy a talit katan for a child who has reached the age of chinuch.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 17:3. The Shulchan Aruch (17:3) does not specify an exact age, rather the idea is once a child knows how to properly wear the Tzitzit so that two strings are behind him and two in front (Rema 17:3).
<br>Aruch HaShulchan 17:5 asks why one is obligated to buy his child a talit, as the mitzvah of tzitzit is limited to one who is wearing a four-cornered garment. So if one doesn't have the garment, there is no requirement! Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen (Children in Halacha page 15 footnote 8) quotes the Bach s.v. katan that since the custom is that everyone wears tzitzit, one is obligated in chinuch of this custom as well.</ref>
# There are a variety of opinions for the age of chinuch for talit katan
## Some say the age of three.<ref>Shaare Teshuva 17:2 and Aruch HaShulchan 17:5</ref>
## Some say it is six or seven.<ref>Bach 16 s.v. umah shekasiv rabbaynu, Yalkut Yosef Dinei Chinuch Katan pg. 29</ref>
## Others says that it is nine.<ref>Magen Avraham 16:1, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rav Rephael Baruch Toledano 9:2. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe Y.D. 3:52:2) says that under the age of nine, the talit katan does not need the proper measurements. Aruch HaShulchan 16:5 says a talit katan has no shiur.</ref>