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	# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. Rav Hershel Schachter (The Laws of Cooking and Warming Food on Shabbat p. 184) writes that one should place something in between the pot and the heating element to avoid hatmana.</ref>		# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. Rav Hershel Schachter (The Laws of Cooking and Warming Food on Shabbat p. 184) writes that one should place something in between the pot and the heating element to avoid hatmana.</ref>
	# A crock pot or slow cooker that doesn’t fit into a heating element and just sit upon a heating element don’t have the question of hatmana and only need cover the heating element with aluminum foil and preferably the knob as well.<ref>39 Melachos v. 2 p. 633</ref>		# A crock pot or slow cooker that doesn’t fit into a heating element and just sit upon a heating element don’t have the question of hatmana and only need cover the heating element with aluminum foil and preferably the knob as well.<ref>39 Melachos v. 2 p. 633</ref>
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-# Leaving food in a crock pot from before [[Shabbat]] according to many poskim is permitted if the food is [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day and the knob is covered. However, some forbid it unless a significant space is created between the heating element and the crock pot insert. This can be accomplished by placing a few balls of tin foil under the crock pot insert but one sheet of tin foil isn't sufficient.<Ref>Reasons to permit:<br />
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 # '''Hatmana: Hatmana for Tomorrow''': There are some Rishonim that permit Hatmana if the food is meant to be eaten the next day. [Shibolei HaLeket 57 in name of Rabbenu Simcha says that [[Shehiya]] is permitted if a person has two pots and the one that’s [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day is separate from the pot [[cooking]] for Friday night. Rabbenu Binyamin (quoted by Shibolei HaLeket), Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 3:300), Rabbenu Yishaya HaRishon ([[Shabbat]] Bameh Tomnin), and Ravan ([[Shabbat]] 338) concerning Hatmana allow something that is set aside for the next day.] Rama 257:1 rules like these opinions. However Bet Yosef 253:1(4) concludes that this seemingly goes against many of the Mefarshim that are brought in the following Siman.
 # '''Hatmana: Partial Insulation''': There is a dispute in the Rishonim whether there is Hatmana when the food is touching the coals even though the food itself isn’t covered. S”A 253:1 end of saif rules (based on Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 3:1), Tur 253:1, Ran 15b s.v. Kirah, and Magid Mishna 3:4 in name of Rambam) that if the pot is touching the coals directly it’s forbidden to do hatmana in any case. However Rama 253:1 says that there are those who permit (namely, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 299, Hagahot Maimon 7:20, and Or Zaruh 2:8 pg 3c) and so is the Minhag. Chazon Ish 37:19 argues on this Rama and follows S”A. See [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=7555 The Great Crock Pot Controversy] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff.<br />
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 # '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.
 # '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. Rav Hershel Schachter (The Laws of Cooking and Warming Food on Shabbat p. 184) writes that one should place something in between the pot and the heating element to avoid hatmana.</ref>

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	# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com quotes this opinion of Rav Ovadia. Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br />		# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com quotes this opinion of Rav Ovadia. Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br />
	# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.		# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.
	# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of ~~Shehiya~~ it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of ~~Hatmana~~ even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref>		# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. Rav Hershel Schachter (The Laws of Cooking and Warming Food on Shabbat p. 184) writes that one should place something in between the pot and the heating element to avoid hatmana.</ref>

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	# '''Shehiya: Covering the Knobs''': Chazon Ovadia permits the shehiya because of covering the knobs. Orchot Shabbat 2:18 holds that covering the knob with tape permits shehiya.		# '''Shehiya: Covering the Knobs''': Chazon Ovadia permits the shehiya because of covering the knobs. Orchot Shabbat 2:18 holds that covering the knob with tape permits shehiya.
	# '''Shehiya: Other Solutions''': Halacha Brurah 253:9 writes that if one covers the heating element with tin foil that solves the shehiya problem. Halacha Brurah 257:32 notes that if one puts in a raw piece of meat before Shabbat that also solves the issue of shehiya.		# '''Shehiya: Other Solutions''': Halacha Brurah 253:9 writes that if one covers the heating element with tin foil that solves the shehiya problem. Halacha Brurah 257:32 notes that if one puts in a raw piece of meat before Shabbat that also solves the issue of shehiya.
	# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. ~~See [~~[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com ~~who~~ quotes Rav ~~Ovadyah~~.] Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br />		# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com quotes this opinion of Rav Ovadia. Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br />
	# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.		# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.
	# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of Shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of Hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref>		# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of Shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of Hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref>

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	# Leaving food in a crock pot from before [[Shabbat]] is permitted if the food is [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day and the knob is covered. <Ref>Reasons to permit:<br />		# Leaving food in a crock pot from before [[Shabbat]] according to many poskim is permitted if the food is [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day and the knob is covered. However, some forbid it unless a significant space is created between the heating element and the crock pot insert. This can be accomplished by placing a few balls of tin foil under the crock pot insert but one sheet of tin foil isn't sufficient.<Ref>Reasons to permit:<br />
	# There are some Rishonim that permit Hatmana if the food is meant to be eaten the next day. [Shibolei HaLeket 57 in name of Rabbenu Simcha says that [[Shehiya]] is permitted if a person has two pots and the one that’s [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day is separate from the pot [[cooking]] for Friday night. Rabbenu Binyamin (quoted by Shibolei HaLeket), Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 3:300), Rabbenu Yishaya HaRishon ([[Shabbat]] Bameh Tomnin), and Ravan ([[Shabbat]] 338) concerning Hatmana allow something that is set aside for the next day.] Rama 257:1 rules like these opinions. However Bet Yosef 253:1(4) concludes that this seemingly goes against many of the Mefarshim that are brought in the following Siman.		# '''Hatmana: Hatmana for Tomorrow''': There are some Rishonim that permit Hatmana if the food is meant to be eaten the next day. [Shibolei HaLeket 57 in name of Rabbenu Simcha says that [[Shehiya]] is permitted if a person has two pots and the one that’s [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day is separate from the pot [[cooking]] for Friday night. Rabbenu Binyamin (quoted by Shibolei HaLeket), Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 3:300), Rabbenu Yishaya HaRishon ([[Shabbat]] Bameh Tomnin), and Ravan ([[Shabbat]] 338) concerning Hatmana allow something that is set aside for the next day.] Rama 257:1 rules like these opinions. However Bet Yosef 253:1(4) concludes that this seemingly goes against many of the Mefarshim that are brought in the following Siman.
	# There is a dispute in the Rishonim whether there is Hatmana when the food is touching the coals even though the food itself isn’t covered. S”A 253:1 end of saif rules (based on Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 3:1), Tur 253:1, Ran 15b s.v. Kirah, and Magid Mishna 3:4 in name of Rambam) that if the pot is touching the coals directly it’s forbidden to do hatmana in any case. However Rama 253:1 says that there are those who permit (namely, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 299, Hagahot Maimon 7:20, and Or Zaruh 2:8 pg 3c) and so is the Minhag. Chazon Ish 37:19 argues on this Rama and follows S”A. ~~see~~ [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=7555 The Great Crock Pot Controversy] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff<br />		# '''Hatmana: Partial Insulation''': There is a dispute in the Rishonim whether there is Hatmana when the food is touching the coals even though the food itself isn’t covered. S”A 253:1 end of saif rules (based on Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 3:1), Tur 253:1, Ran 15b s.v. Kirah, and Magid Mishna 3:4 in name of Rambam) that if the pot is touching the coals directly it’s forbidden to do hatmana in any case. However Rama 253:1 says that there are those who permit (namely, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 299, Hagahot Maimon 7:20, and Or Zaruh 2:8 pg 3c) and so is the Minhag. Chazon Ish 37:19 argues on this Rama and follows S”A. See [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=7555 The Great Crock Pot Controversy] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff.<br />
	# Some distinguish between the pot directly on the coals and where there’s a small airspace in between including Mishna Brurah (Shaar Hatziyun 257:43) and Shulchan Aruch HaRav 257:10 (based on Ritva [[Shabbat]] 47b). Thus, Chazon Ovadyah (1 pg 64) argues that the small airspace is reason to permit even according to S”A, while Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 doesn’t consider the airspace as an interference between the coals and the pot because that’s the way it cooks. ~~<br />~~		# '''Hatmana: The Tiny Space Between the Pot and Heating Element''': Some distinguish between the pot directly on the coals and where there’s a small airspace in between including Mishna Brurah (Shaar Hatziyun 257:43) and Shulchan Aruch HaRav 257:10 (based on Ritva [[Shabbat]] 47b). Thus, Chazon Ovadyah (1 pg 64) argues that the small airspace is reason to permit even according to S”A, while Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 doesn’t consider the airspace as an interference between the coals and the pot because that’s the way it cooks.
	'''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. ~~see~~ [[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com who quotes Rav Ovadyah.] <br />		# '''Shehiya: Covering the Knobs''': Chazon Ovadia permits the shehiya because of covering the knobs. Orchot Shabbat 2:18 holds that covering the knob with tape permits shehiya.
	'''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama. </ref>		# '''Shehiya: Other Solutions''': Halacha Brurah 253:9 writes that if one covers the heating element with tin foil that solves the shehiya problem. Halacha Brurah 257:32 notes that if one puts in a raw piece of meat before Shabbat that also solves the issue of shehiya.
			# '''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. See [[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com who quotes Rav Ovadyah.] Halacha Brurah 257:32 permits the crock pot for hatmana purposes if the food is intended for tomorrow.<br />
			# '''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama.
			# '''Aluminum Balls Solution''': Orchot Shabbat 2:88 writes that in terms of Shehiya it is considered an uncovered fire which can be solved by creating a space between the pot and the insert. In terms of Hatmana even though the top is uncovered it is still considered insulated since it is mostly surrounded by the heating element. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rav Elyashiv both held that it is only permitted to using a crock pot is the insert is raised in a noticeable way from the heating element otherwise it would be hatmana. Additionally, Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach added that the food had to be completely cooked before Shabbat to avoid hatmana. Lastly, Rav Wosner held that one should be strict but one doesn't have to protest Ashkenazim who are lenient since it is only partial insulation. </ref>

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# Leaving food in a crock pot from before [[Shabbat]] is permitted if the food is [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day and the knob is covered. <Ref>Reasons to permit: 
# There are some Rishonim that permit Hatmana if the food is meant to be eaten the next day. [Shibolei HaLeket 57 in name of Rabbenu Simcha says that [[Shehiya]] is permitted if a person has two pots and the one that’s [[cooking]] for [[Shabbat]] day is separate from the pot [[cooking]] for Friday night. Rabbenu Binyamin (quoted by Shibolei HaLeket), Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 3:300), Rabbenu Yishaya HaRishon ([[Shabbat]] Bameh Tomnin), and Ravan ([[Shabbat]] 338) concerning Hatmana allow something that is set aside for the next day.] Rama 257:1 rules like these opinions. However Bet Yosef 253:1(4) concludes that this seemingly goes against many of the Mefarshim that are brought in the following Siman.
# There is a dispute in the Rishonim whether there is Hatmana when the food is touching the coals even though the food itself isn’t covered. S”A 253:1 end of saif rules (based on Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 3:1), Tur 253:1, Ran 15b s.v. Kirah, and Magid Mishna 3:4 in name of Rambam) that if the pot is touching the coals directly it’s forbidden to do hatmana in any case. However Rama 253:1 says that there are those who permit (namely, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 299, Hagahot Maimon 7:20, and Or Zaruh 2:8 pg 3c) and so is the Minhag. Chazon Ish 37:19 argues on this Rama and follows S”A. see [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=7555 The Great Crock Pot Controversy] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff 
# Some distinguish between the pot directly on the coals and where there’s a small airspace in between including Mishna Brurah (Shaar Hatziyun 257:43) and Shulchan Aruch HaRav 257:10 (based on Ritva [[Shabbat]] 47b). Thus, Chazon Ovadyah (1 pg 64) argues that the small airspace is reason to permit even according to S”A, while Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 doesn’t consider the airspace as an interference between the coals and the pot because that’s the way it cooks. 
'''Those who permit''': Rav Vosner (Kovetz MeBet Levi 9, [[Shabbat]] LeYisrael pg 373), Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 9:52, and Rav Moshe Feinstein (Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat quote it in his name, see also Igros Moshe OC 4:74:Hatmana 4, Teshuvot Vihanhagot 3:106) permit (according to the Rama). Chazon Ovadyah ([[Shabbat]] 1 pg. 64) permits according to S”A based on a Safeka Safeka, and the small airspace, as long as one covers the knob to serve as a reminder. see [[http://www.dailyhalacha.com/m/halacha.aspx?id=1695 Rabbi Eli Mansour] on DailyHalacha.com who quotes Rav Ovadyah.] 
'''Those who forbid''': Rav Shlomo Aurbach in Shulchan Shlomo 257:13 forbids. [http://www.yeshiva.co/midrash/shiur.asp?id=18018 Rabbi Daniel Mann] writes that although one is not required to do so, one who wishes to satisfy the opinion of Rav Shlomo Zalman may place little balls of tin foil underneath the removable part of the crock pot to create a separation between the pot of food and the heating element and raise the pot of food about the walls (see Rav Shlomo Zalman's letter in the back of Orchot Shabbat and Orchot Shabbat pg. 113). Rav Elyashiv (commonly quoted “in his name” (as in Sefer Otzrot Ha[[Shabbat]] and Sefer Matmin UMevashel Beshabbat) as forbidding the crock pot, however [[Shabbat]] Hayom recounts that he and his friend Rabbi Ofir Malka showed Rav Elyashiv the pot and Rav Elyashiv permitted it according to the Rama. </ref>

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