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Moshiachnow770: i have added a halacha about the time of lighting

2024-12-26T10:41:27Z

i have added a halacha about the time of lighting

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	# One should light [[Shabbat]] candles a "short hour" before [[Shekiyah]] each place according to its minhag. If there's no minhag in that place, one should light a half hour before [[shekiyah]] or at least 20 minutes. <ref> Mishna Brurah 261:23 writes that one should stop doing melacha a half hour or at least 20 minutes before Melacha. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:11 writes that this amount of time is when one should light candles. See Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (43 note 57) where he discusses the minhag in Yerushalim to light 40 minutes before [[Shekiyah]].</ref>		# One should light [[Shabbat]] candles a "short hour" before [[Shekiyah]] each place according to its minhag. If there's no minhag in that place, one should light a half hour before [[shekiyah]] or at least 20 minutes. <ref> Mishna Brurah 261:23 writes that one should stop doing melacha a half hour or at least 20 minutes before Melacha. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:11 writes that this amount of time is when one should light candles. See Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (43 note 57) where he discusses the minhag in Yerushalim to light 40 minutes before [[Shekiyah]].</ref>
	# half an hour before tzeis hakochovim should the shabbos candles be lit ~~<nowiki>~~<ref> kitzur shulchan aruch chapter 75 </ref~~></nowiki~~>		# a half an hour before tzeis hakochovim should the shabbos candles be lit <ref>kitzur shulchan aruch chapter 75</ref>
	# One should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. <ref> How early can one light [[Shabbat]] candles? The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:6) writes that the earliest time to light [[Shabbat]] candles is Plag [[Mincha]] (ten and three quarter hours). The Tur 267:2 writes that this is also the opinion of Tosfot and the Bet Yosef 263:4 writes that this is the opinion of the Rabbenu Yonah and Mordechai. Shulchan Aruch 263:4 rules that one should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. </ref>		# One should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. <ref> How early can one light [[Shabbat]] candles? The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:6) writes that the earliest time to light [[Shabbat]] candles is Plag [[Mincha]] (ten and three quarter hours). The Tur 267:2 writes that this is also the opinion of Tosfot and the Bet Yosef 263:4 writes that this is the opinion of the Rabbenu Yonah and Mordechai. Shulchan Aruch 263:4 rules that one should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. </ref>

Moshiachnow770: /* Time to light candles */

2024-12-26T10:34:00Z

Time to light candles

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	==Time to light candles==		==Time to light candles==
	# One should light [[Shabbat]] candles a "short hour" before [[Shekiyah]] each place according to its minhag. If there's no minhag in that place, one should light a half hour before [[shekiyah]] or at least 20 minutes. <ref> Mishna Brurah 261:23 writes that one should stop doing melacha a half hour or at least 20 minutes before Melacha. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:11 writes that this amount of time is when one should light candles. See Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (43 note 57) where he discusses the minhag in Yerushalim to light 40 minutes before [[Shekiyah]].</ref>		# One should light [[Shabbat]] candles a "short hour" before [[Shekiyah]] each place according to its minhag. If there's no minhag in that place, one should light a half hour before [[shekiyah]] or at least 20 minutes. <ref> Mishna Brurah 261:23 writes that one should stop doing melacha a half hour or at least 20 minutes before Melacha. Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:11 writes that this amount of time is when one should light candles. See Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (43 note 57) where he discusses the minhag in Yerushalim to light 40 minutes before [[Shekiyah]].</ref>
			# half an hour before tzeis hakochovim should the shabbos candles be lit <nowiki><ref> kitzur shulchan aruch chapter 75 </ref></nowiki>
	# One should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. <ref> How early can one light [[Shabbat]] candles? The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:6) writes that the earliest time to light [[Shabbat]] candles is Plag [[Mincha]] (ten and three quarter hours). The Tur 267:2 writes that this is also the opinion of Tosfot and the Bet Yosef 263:4 writes that this is the opinion of the Rabbenu Yonah and Mordechai. Shulchan Aruch 263:4 rules that one should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. </ref>		# One should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. <ref> How early can one light [[Shabbat]] candles? The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:6) writes that the earliest time to light [[Shabbat]] candles is Plag [[Mincha]] (ten and three quarter hours). The Tur 267:2 writes that this is also the opinion of Tosfot and the Bet Yosef 263:4 writes that this is the opinion of the Rabbenu Yonah and Mordechai. Shulchan Aruch 263:4 rules that one should make sure to light close to [[Shabbat]] so that it's recognizable that one is lighting for Kavod [[Shabbat]], however, if one accepts [[Shabbat]] early one may light as early as Plag HaMincha. </ref>

YitzchakSultan1: /* How many candles? */

2024-10-22T00:59:00Z

How many candles?

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	#The practice is the women says a [[prayer]] for her children grow to become Torah scholars. <Ref> The practice to pray for children that will be Torah scholars is based on the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 23b that says in reward for keeping [[Shabbat]] candles, one get children who lighten the world with their Torah. The Magen Avraham 263:11 in name of Rabbenu BeChay says that it is proper for a person to pray for children that will be Torah scholars when lighting the [[Shabbat]] candles. This brought as Halacha in Kaf HaChaim 263:1 and Menuchat Ahava (vol 1 4:3). </ref>		#The practice is the women says a [[prayer]] for her children grow to become Torah scholars. <Ref> The practice to pray for children that will be Torah scholars is based on the Gemara [[Shabbat]] 23b that says in reward for keeping [[Shabbat]] candles, one get children who lighten the world with their Torah. The Magen Avraham 263:11 in name of Rabbenu BeChay says that it is proper for a person to pray for children that will be Torah scholars when lighting the [[Shabbat]] candles. This brought as Halacha in Kaf HaChaim 263:1 and Menuchat Ahava (vol 1 4:3). </ref>
	===How many candles?===		===How many candles?===
	# The minimum requirement is to have one candle.<Ref> Implied for the language of Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 263:2. </ref> However, the minhag is to have two candles.<~~Ref~~> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 263:1 rules that one should have two candles, one for Shamor and one for Zachor. </ref>		# The minimum requirement is to have one candle.<Ref> Implied for the language of Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) and Shulchan Aruch O.C. 263:2. </ref> However, the minhag is to have two candles.<ref> Shulchan Aruch O.C. 263:1 rules that one should have two candles, one for Shamor and one for Zachor. Rashba (responsa 7:530) writes that the source for lighting two Shabbat is from the Midrash that all activities of Shabbat are doubled, lechem mishna, Shamor and Zachor, and two sheep for korbanot. </ref>
	# Some have the minhag to have 7 candles and some have the minhag to have 10 candles.<ref>Magen Avraham 263:2 in name of the Shlah </ref>		# Some have the minhag to have 7 candles and some have the minhag to have 10 candles.<ref>Magen Avraham 263:2 in name of the Shlah </ref>
	#Some poskim hold that the minhag that if a woman forgot to light candles one week has a penalty to light an extra candle every week afterwards doesn't apply if the electric lights were lit anyways. However, most poskim disagree and hold that the penalty is relevant even in such a case.<ref>Dor Hamelaktim v. 1 p. 468 quotes many poskim who hold that the kenas applies even if electric lights were still lit including: Kinyan Torah Bhalacha 6:9:3, Shraga Hameir 7:83:1, Tzitz Eliezer 21:11, Shevet Halevi 5:33, Rivevot Efraim 8:123, and Shevet Hakehati 5:266. However, they also quote some poskim who are lenient including Yalkut Yosef and Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky.</ref>		#Some poskim hold that the minhag that if a woman forgot to light candles one week has a penalty to light an extra candle every week afterwards doesn't apply if the electric lights were lit anyways. However, most poskim disagree and hold that the penalty is relevant even in such a case.<ref>Dor Hamelaktim v. 1 p. 468 quotes many poskim who hold that the kenas applies even if electric lights were still lit including: Kinyan Torah Bhalacha 6:9:3, Shraga Hameir 7:83:1, Tzitz Eliezer 21:11, Shevet Halevi 5:33, Rivevot Efraim 8:123, and Shevet Hakehati 5:266. However, they also quote some poskim who are lenient including Yalkut Yosef and Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky.</ref>

YitzchakSultan1: /* Obligation of a Guest */

2024-06-10T17:40:00Z

Obligation of a Guest

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	==Obligation of a Guest==		==Obligation of a Guest==
	# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and isn't eating meals at their host's house, if he has someone lighting for him at home, such as a wife or mother, if he has his own room, he should light in his room. If he doesn't have his own room, he is exempt from lighting.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:4 based on Shulchan Aruch 263:6 </ref>		# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and isn't eating meals at their host's house, if he has someone lighting for him at home, such as a wife or mother, if he has his own room, he should light in his room. If he doesn't have his own room, he is exempt from lighting.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:4 based on Shulchan Aruch 263:6 </ref>
	# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and is eating meals at their host's house, if he has his own own room, he should light with a bracha in his room. However, if he doesn't have his own room he is exempted with the lighting of the host. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:2</ref>		# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and is eating meals at their host's house, if he has his own own room, he should light with a bracha in his room. However, if he doesn't have his own room he is exempted with the lighting of the host.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:2</ref>
			# If a person is eating out Friday night he should light at home before Shabbat with long enough candles that could last until he gets back to enjoy them on Shabbat.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat 1-2, 5771, p. 82, 263:37)</ref>
			# If someone is a guest for Shabbat and has his own room he must light. According to Sephardim he cannot light in a room that someone is already lighting. Therefore, he should light in his own private room. A guest in a hotel who cannot light in his own room should light in the cafeteria where they're going to eat. If she's not the first one to light there, then they should make the bracha upon the electric lights in their private room.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat 1-2, 5771 edition, p. 81, 263:36)</ref>

	==Hadlakat Neirot Shabbat in Yeshiva==		==Hadlakat Neirot Shabbat in Yeshiva==

YitzchakSultan1 at 19:27, 25 December 2023

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	There’s an obligation upon every household to have a candle lit for [[Shabbat]]. <~~Ref~~>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) and ~~S”A~~ 263:2 rule that there’s an obligation to have a candle lit in the house for [[Shabbat]]. </ref> There is a discussion whether [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is part of the mitzvah of [[Kavod Shabbat]] or [[Oneg Shabbat]].<ref>In one place the Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) writes that [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is considered [[Oneg Shabbat]], whereas in another place (Rambam [[Shabbat]] 30:5) he states that it is included in [[Kavod Shabbat]]. </ref> Either way, [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is a derabbanan mitzvah.<ref>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1)</ref>		There’s an obligation upon every household to have a candle lit for [[Shabbat]].<ref>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) and Shulcham Aruch O.C. 263:2 rule that there’s an obligation to have a candle lit in the house for [[Shabbat]]. </ref> There is a discussion whether [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is part of the mitzvah of [[Kavod Shabbat]] or [[Oneg Shabbat]].<ref>In one place the Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1) writes that [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is considered [[Oneg Shabbat]], whereas in another place (Rambam [[Shabbat]] 30:5) he states that it is included in [[Kavod Shabbat]]. </ref> Either way, [[lighting Shabbat candles]] is a derabbanan mitzvah.<ref>Rambam ([[Shabbat]] 5:1)</ref>
	==Procedure==		==Procedure==
	===Beracha===		===Beracha===

Yonirabinovitch: Made an edit to whether you could make a bracha on a non-incandescent electric bulb, that most poskim think you cannot.

2023-10-12T15:44:11Z

Made an edit to whether you could make a bracha on a non-incandescent electric bulb, that most poskim think you cannot.

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	# Even though all oil that is drawn after wick is kosher for [[Shabbat]] candles, it’s preferable to use olive oil. <Ref> S”A 264:6 </ref>		# Even though all oil that is drawn after wick is kosher for [[Shabbat]] candles, it’s preferable to use olive oil. <Ref> S”A 264:6 </ref>
	# If one can’t get olive oil, one should use wax <Ref> S”A 264:7 </ref> or paraffin candles. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 1 4:3) writes that the electric candles aren’t worse than wax candles. </ref>		# If one can’t get olive oil, one should use wax <Ref> S”A 264:7 </ref> or paraffin candles. <Ref> Menuchat Ahava (vol 1 4:3) writes that the electric candles aren’t worse than wax candles. </ref>
	# If one can’t get oil or wax candles at all one should turn on ~~the electric lights with~~ a ~~Bracha.~~ <~~Ref~~> Sh”t Yechave Daat 5:24 </ref>		# If one can’t get oil or wax candles at all, one can use an incandescent bulb and still make a bracha. However, if they only have fluorescent or LED lights (as are most electric lights nowadays), one should turn them on without a bracha <ref> Sh”t Yechave Daat 5:24 says one can make a bracha on electric lights. However, he is only discussing incandescent bulbs, as evidenced by his argument that it has the halachic status of a fire.

			There is a minority view attributed to Rav Elyashiv (Hilchos Shabbos BeShabbos pgs. 152-153) that one could make a bracha on any light source, including LED and fluorescent lights.

			However, Rav Rimon (Shabbat 3 pg. 242 + 244) notes the majority of poskim would not allow one to make a bracha on an LED or fluorescent bulb as they do not have the halachic status of fire, nor are they comparable to a candle (which has a fuel source and a localized "flame") in the same way that an incandescent bulb is.

			</ref>
	# It's preferable to light with olive oil, if one doesn't have olive oil, the next best is all other oils that burn with a clear flame, and lastly, wax candles are also acceptable. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 264:6 writes that olive oil is preferable to other oils and Mishna Brurah 264:23 adds that wax candles are inferior to oil candles. This is also the opinion of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:4 and Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1 pg 187). </ref>		# It's preferable to light with olive oil, if one doesn't have olive oil, the next best is all other oils that burn with a clear flame, and lastly, wax candles are also acceptable. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 264:6 writes that olive oil is preferable to other oils and Mishna Brurah 264:23 adds that wax candles are inferior to oil candles. This is also the opinion of Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 43:4 and Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 1 pg 187). </ref>
	===Electric Candles===		===Electric Candles===

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2023-07-13T16:27:08Z

Sources

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Unknown user: /* Obligation of a Guest */

2023-06-20T16:07:31Z

Obligation of a Guest

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	==Obligation of a Guest==		==Obligation of a Guest==
	# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and isn't eating meals at their host's house, if he has someone lighting for ~~his~~ at home, such as a wife or mother, if he has his own room, he should light in his room. If he doesn't have his own room, he is exempt from lighting.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:4 based on Shulchan Aruch 263:6 </ref>		# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and isn't eating meals at their host's house, if he has someone lighting for him at home, such as a wife or mother, if he has his own room, he should light in his room. If he doesn't have his own room, he is exempt from lighting.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:4 based on Shulchan Aruch 263:6 </ref>
	# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and is eating meals at their host's house, if he has his own own room, he should light with a bracha in his room. However, if he doesn't have his own room he is exempted with the lighting of the host. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:2</ref>		# A guest who comes to someone else's house for Shabbos and is eating meals at their host's house, if he has his own own room, he should light with a bracha in his room. However, if he doesn't have his own room he is exempted with the lighting of the host. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 45:2</ref>

Unknown user: /* How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table */

2022-10-13T03:47:20Z

How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table

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	see [[Electricity_on_Shabbat#Using_a_light_bulb_for_Shabbat_Candles_and_Havdala\|Using a light bulb for Shabbat Candles and Havdala]]		see [[Electricity_on_Shabbat#Using_a_light_bulb_for_Shabbat_Candles_and_Havdala\|Using a light bulb for Shabbat Candles and Havdala]]
	==How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table==		==How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table==
	# If someone left a permitted item from before Shabbat on the candlestick tray and that item is necessary for Shabbat it is permitted to move the tray off the table after the candles went out since it is a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh.<ref>Muktzeh: A Practical Guide by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen p. 244 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and others who say that it is permitted to make the tray a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh since the tray isn't designated only for the candles. He cites Rav Wosner who disagreed that it is similar to the candlesticks themselves which are designated to be a bosis for the flame and nothing else so it wouldn't work to make it a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227 agrees that you could permit the tray by placing a non-muktzeh item there. See [[Kli_SheMelachto_LeIsser]] as to the discussion of whether candlesticks are muktzeh.</ref> Some hold it is isn't valid because a tray is designated for candles.<ref>Rav Wosner cited in the last footnote, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:64, Igrot Moshe 5:22:11</ref>		# If someone left a permitted item from before Shabbat on the candlestick tray and that item is necessary for Shabbat it is permitted to move the tray off the table after the candles went out since it is a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh.<ref>Muktzeh: A Practical Guide by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen p. 244 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and others who say that it is permitted to make the tray a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh since the tray isn't designated only for the candles. He cites Rav Wosner who disagreed that it is similar to the candlesticks themselves which are designated to be a bosis for the flame and nothing else so it wouldn't work to make it a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227 agrees that you could permit the tray by placing a non-muktzeh item there. See [[Kli_SheMelachto_LeIsser]] as to the discussion of whether candlesticks are muktzeh.</ref> Some hold it is isn't valid because a tray is designated for candles.<ref>Rav Wosner cited in the last footnote, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:64, Igrot Moshe 5:22:11. Dor Hamelaktim v. 3 p. 1514 quotes Emet Lyakov fnt. 594, Rav Elyashiv (Shvut Yitzchak v. 1 p. 196), Rav Wosner (Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 48), Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat v. 1 p. 343), and Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:64 as strict even to place a permitted item on the candlestick tray since it is designated for candles, while Or Letzion 18:21 and Tzitz Eliezer 12:30 are lenient.</ref>
	##Examples of items that you could put on the tray to permit carrying it include a challah, siddur, or knife you will need that Shabbat.		##Examples of items that you could put on the tray to permit carrying it include a challah, siddur, or knife you will need that Shabbat.
	# According to Sephardim it is permitted to move the tray if you make a stipulation before Shabbat that you will use the candlesticks tray after they go out.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 279:4, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 92, Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227. Chazon Ovadia explains that the candlesticks are permitted with a stipulation since they are no longer a bosis. Furthermore they aren't muktzeh machmat chisaron kis since they are a kli shemelachto lheter according to the Ramban, Raavad, Rashba, and Tashbetz.</ref>		# According to Sephardim it is permitted to move the tray if you make a stipulation before Shabbat that you will use the candlesticks tray after they go out.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 279:4, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 92, Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227. Chazon Ovadia explains that the candlesticks are permitted with a stipulation since they are no longer a bosis. Furthermore they aren't muktzeh machmat chisaron kis since they are a kli shemelachto lheter according to the Ramban, Raavad, Rashba, and Tashbetz.</ref>

Unknown user: /* How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table */

2022-10-13T03:01:43Z

How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table

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	see [[Electricity_on_Shabbat#Using_a_light_bulb_for_Shabbat_Candles_and_Havdala\|Using a light bulb for Shabbat Candles and Havdala]]		see [[Electricity_on_Shabbat#Using_a_light_bulb_for_Shabbat_Candles_and_Havdala\|Using a light bulb for Shabbat Candles and Havdala]]
	==How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table==		==How to Move the Candlesticks from the Table==
	# If ~~you~~ left from before Shabbat ~~a permitted item~~ on the tray that is necessary for Shabbat it is permitted to move the tray off the table after the candles went out since it is a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh.<ref>Muktzeh: A Practical Guide by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen p. 244 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and others who say that it is permitted to make the tray a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh since the tray isn't designated only for the candles. He cites Rav Wosner who disagreed that it is similar to the candlesticks themselves which are designated to be a bosis for the flame and nothing else so it wouldn't work to make it a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227 agrees that you could permit the tray by placing a non-muktzeh item there. See [[Kli_SheMelachto_LeIsser]] as to the discussion of whether candlesticks are muktzeh.</ref> Some hold it is isn't valid because a tray is designated for candles.<ref>Rav Wosner cited in the last footnote, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:64, Igrot Moshe 5:22:11</ref>		# If someone left a permitted item from before Shabbat on the candlestick tray and that item is necessary for Shabbat it is permitted to move the tray off the table after the candles went out since it is a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh.<ref>Muktzeh: A Practical Guide by Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen p. 244 cites Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and others who say that it is permitted to make the tray a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh since the tray isn't designated only for the candles. He cites Rav Wosner who disagreed that it is similar to the candlesticks themselves which are designated to be a bosis for the flame and nothing else so it wouldn't work to make it a bosis for muktzeh and non-muktzeh. Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227 agrees that you could permit the tray by placing a non-muktzeh item there. See [[Kli_SheMelachto_LeIsser]] as to the discussion of whether candlesticks are muktzeh.</ref> Some hold it is isn't valid because a tray is designated for candles.<ref>Rav Wosner cited in the last footnote, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 20:64, Igrot Moshe 5:22:11</ref>
	##Examples of items that you could put on the tray to permit carrying it include a challah, siddur, or knife you will need that Shabbat.		##Examples of items that you could put on the tray to permit carrying it include a challah, siddur, or knife you will need that Shabbat.
	# According to Sephardim it is permitted to move the tray if you make a stipulation before Shabbat that you will use the candlesticks tray after they go out.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 279:4, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 92, Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227. Chazon Ovadia explains that the candlesticks are permitted with a stipulation since they are no longer a bosis. Furthermore they aren't muktzeh machmat chisaron kis since they are a kli shemelachto lheter according to the Ramban, Raavad, Rashba, and Tashbetz.</ref>		# According to Sephardim it is permitted to move the tray if you make a stipulation before Shabbat that you will use the candlesticks tray after they go out.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 279:4, Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 92, Yalkut Yosef Shabbat 5773 v. 4 p. 227. Chazon Ovadia explains that the candlesticks are permitted with a stipulation since they are no longer a bosis. Furthermore they aren't muktzeh machmat chisaron kis since they are a kli shemelachto lheter according to the Ramban, Raavad, Rashba, and Tashbetz.</ref>

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