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	==Guidelines==		==Guidelines==
			# To avoid this prohibition, it is highly recommended that that before hiring any worker one should make sure to have cash at hand in order to pay his worker on time.<ref> Sefer Hachinuch Mitzva 585</ref>
	# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>		# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>
	# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>		# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>

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	# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>		# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>
	# After the work is completed, one may not use some pretext to bargain down the amount he owes or squeeze the worker for a reduction, unless the worker agrees wholeheartedly.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 130 in the name of Rav Pam, as even if you pay one peruta less than you owe him, you would be in violation of bal talin. </ref>		# After the work is completed, one may not use some pretext to bargain down the amount he owes or squeeze the worker for a reduction, unless the worker agrees wholeheartedly.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 130 in the name of Rav Pam, as even if you pay one peruta less than you owe him, you would be in violation of bal talin. </ref>
			# If one forgot to pay the worker and it is difficult for him to go back and pay, he may call the worker and ask if he can pay later. If the worker allows, then he avoids bal talin but still misses out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 134</ref>

	===Type of Work/Worker===		===Type of Work/Worker===
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	===Rental===		===Rental===
	====Item====		====Item====
	# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126 </ref>		# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126. see also pg. 133 for specific examples </ref>
	# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>		# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>

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	# If the worker consents to wait for his payment, there is no bal talin.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 112-113. see note 61 there where he proves that this is the case even if the work was already completed and the time to pay has arrived</ref> Even if the worker is simply too embarrassed to press, and agrees to wait, there is no bal talin. But he must clearly express this consent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg</ref>		# If the worker consents to wait for his payment, there is no bal talin.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 112-113. see note 61 there where he proves that this is the case even if the work was already completed and the time to pay has arrived</ref> Even if the worker is simply too embarrassed to press, and agrees to wait, there is no bal talin. But he must clearly express this consent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg</ref>
	# If a worker takes a job where he knows the employer doesn't pay on time, it is as if he agreed beforehand to accept late payment and there is no issue of bal talin.<Ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:9 based on Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113</ref>		# If a worker takes a job where he knows the employer doesn't pay on time, it is as if he agreed beforehand to accept late payment and there is no issue of bal talin.<Ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:9 based on Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113</ref>
	# In some areas of service, the accepted practice is that the provider does not expect payment until he sends an invoice. If that is the case, one would not be obligated to pay until the invoice is provided.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 121 gives the example of a dental office.</ref> Once one receives the bill, he should pay within the normal amount of time according to the standards of that profession. Although if he delays he is not technically in violation of Bal talin, it is still rabbinically forbidden to delay the payment. <ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Scheinberg. see there where he writes that if one receives a medical bill, he should typically pay within 30 days. If he doesn't pay within that time, he would be in violation of the rabbinic prohibition of delaying. He adds that if they call to remind you, additional delay would certainly be forbidden.</ref>		# In some areas of service, the accepted practice is that the provider does not expect payment until he sends an invoice. If that is the case, one would not be obligated to pay until the invoice is provided.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 121 gives the example of a dental office. Pn pg. 133 he adds the examples of accounting or legal fees</ref> Once one receives the bill, he should pay within the normal amount of time according to the standards of that profession. Although if he delays he is not technically in violation of Bal talin, it is still rabbinically forbidden to delay the payment. <ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Scheinberg. see there where he writes that if one receives a medical bill, he should typically pay within 30 days. If he doesn't pay within that time, he would be in violation of the rabbinic prohibition of delaying. He adds that if they call to remind you, additional delay would certainly be forbidden.</ref>
	# Workers who provide a service on a steady basis, usually do not object if payment is deferred until the next time of service. Therefore, unless he specifically asks to be paid after each session, one may presume that he agrees to work in accordance with the customary practice and there would be no issue of bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 gives the example of a baby-sitter who comes to babysit on a regular basis</ref>		# Workers who provide a service on a steady basis, usually do not object if payment is deferred until the next time of service. Therefore, unless he specifically asks to be paid after each session, one may presume that he agrees to work in accordance with the customary practice and there would be no issue of bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 gives the example of a baby-sitter who comes to babysit on a regular basis</ref>

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	===Hired by an Intermediary===		===Hired by an Intermediary===
	# If the worker is not hired directly by the employer, there is no violation of bal talin by either the employer or his intermediary.<ref> Shulchan Aruch CM 339:7 based on Baba Metzia 110b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116-117. see note 74 there for different explanations as to why this is the case</ref> ~~Therefore~~, if the employer is not sure that he can pay on time, he should else someone else to hire the worker for him.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 109 based on Baba Metzia 111a</ref> However, doing so will make him unable to fulfill the positive mitzva of paying his worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118 in the name of the Chida and Rav Elyashiv</ref>		# If the worker is not hired directly by the employer, there is no violation of bal talin by either the employer or his intermediary.<ref> Shulchan Aruch CM 339:7 based on Baba Metzia 110b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116-117. see note 74 there for different explanations as to why this is the case</ref> For example, if a secretary orders service from a certain provider, or if an employer hires the workers through the worker's secretary, there would be no bal talin.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 133 in the name of Rav Elyashiv</ref> Because of this exemption, if an employer is not sure that he can pay on time, he should else someone else to hire the worker for him.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 109 based on Baba Metzia 111a</ref> However, doing so will make him unable to fulfill the positive mitzva of paying his worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118 in the name of the Chida and Rav Elyashiv</ref>
	# If an employer provides the funds but puts the ~~hring~~ and paying in the hands of a manager, that manager must pay on time and if he doesn't would be subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref> Similarly, if one's wife hires a worker for the house, even though she is technically hiring on behalf of her husband, she is subject to bal talin and must pay the worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref>		# If an employer provides the funds but puts the hiring and paying in the hands of a manager, that manager must pay on time and if he doesn't would be subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref> Similarly, if one's wife hires a worker for the house, even though she is technically hiring on behalf of her husband, she is subject to bal talin and must pay the worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref>
	# Some poskim say that if the worker continues to work for the employer with the latter's consent after the first payment, it is considered as if the employer himself confirmed the hire and is once again subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117 in the name of Rav Elyashiv.</ref> Accordingly, if a worker was hired through an agency, and then continues to work after the first payday, this would be subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118</ref>		# Some poskim say that if the worker continues to work for the employer with the latter's consent after the first payment, it is considered as if the employer himself confirmed the hire and is once again subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117 in the name of Rav Elyashiv.</ref> Accordingly, if a worker was hired through an agency, and then continues to work after the first payday, this would be subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118</ref>

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	==Links==		==Links==
	* Article on [http://rabbikaganoff.com/paying-workers-on-time-the-mitzvah-of-bal-talin/ Paying Workers on Time: The Mitzvah of Bal Talin] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff		* Article on [http://rabbikaganoff.com/paying-workers-on-time-the-mitzvah-of-bal-talin/ Paying Workers on Time: The Mitzvah of Bal Talin] by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff
			* [https://www.businesshalacha.com/en/audio-general/bal-talin Businesshalacha.com] by Rabbi Leibel Williger
	* [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/719701/rabbi-michael-taubes/parshas-ki-seitzei-paying-workers-on-time/ Paying Workers On Time] by Rabbi Michael Taubes		* [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/719701/rabbi-michael-taubes/parshas-ki-seitzei-paying-workers-on-time/ Paying Workers On Time] by Rabbi Michael Taubes

	==Sources==		==Sources==
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	====Payment in Advance====		====Payment in Advance====
	# If one pays in advance of the work being complete, one is not in violation of bal talin. According to some poskim, he would then be losing out on fulfilling the mitzva of paying on time. He can stipulate at the time that he gives the money that he is not technically transferring the money until it is due, in order to get this mitzva of paying on time.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 108. see note 46 there where he quotes from Shu"T Teshuvot Vihanhagot that the Chofetz Chaim would be sure to only pay the carriage driver at the end of the trip because he wanted to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time</ref>		# If one pays in advance of the work being complete, one is not in violation of bal talin. According to some poskim, he would then be losing out on fulfilling the mitzva of paying on time. He can stipulate at the time that he gives the money that he is not technically transferring the money until it is due, in order to get this mitzva of paying on time.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 108. see note 46 there where he quotes from Shu"T Teshuvot Vihanhagot that the Chofetz Chaim would be sure to only pay the carriage driver at the end of the trip because he wanted to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time</ref>

			====Shabbat====
			# If someone takes a job on Shabbat, such as a waiter who serves on Shabbat, and he finishes his job during the day, some poskim hold that there is no bal talin, because obviously the person accepted this job knowing he could not be paid on Shabbat.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 131-132. </ref> regarding the issue of getting paid for work done on Shabbat see [[Sechar Shabbat]]

	===Form of Payment===		===Form of Payment===

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	# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126 </ref>		# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126 </ref>
	# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>		# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>

	====Renting a Building Space====		====Renting a Building Space====
	# There is a disagreement amongst the poskim regarding the rental of space in a building. Some poskim say that rent due for space in a building is subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127. see Shulchan Aruch CM 339:1 who quotes that there are those who say that land cannot be subject to bal ~~talkin~~. Ahavat Chesed 9:6 recommends being strict and assume that bal talin does apply, as does Aruch Hashulchan 339:2.<br>		# There is a disagreement amongst the poskim regarding the rental of space in a building. Some poskim say that rent due for space in a building is subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127. see Shulchan Aruch CM 339:1 who quotes that there are those who say that land cannot be subject to bal talin. Ahavat Chesed 9:6 recommends being strict and assume that bal talin does apply, as does Aruch Hashulchan 339:2.<br>
	see Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127 note 14 who quotes from Rav Avraham Pam that usually rent is paid in advance, and therefore bal talin would not apply</ref>		see Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127 note 14 who quotes from Rav Avraham Pam that usually rent is paid in advance, and therefore bal talin would not apply</ref>
			# According to the poskim that using a building is subject to bal talin, the rental fees for using a mikveh would be subject to that prohibition. However, this only applies if the mikveh has a policy of no credit. In many cases though, the people in charge consent to the use paying at a later time when necessary. Accordingly, this would not be subject to bal talin, but one who doesn't pay then would be missing out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 131 in the name of Rav Scheinberg</ref>

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	# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>		# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>
	# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>		# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>
	# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>		# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>
			# After the work is completed, one may not use some pretext to bargain down the amount he owes or squeeze the worker for a reduction, unless the worker agrees wholeheartedly.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 130 in the name of Rav Pam, as even if you pay one peruta less than you owe him, you would be in violation of bal talin. </ref>

	===Type of Work/Worker===		===Type of Work/Worker===
	# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>		# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>

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	===Type of Work/Worker===		===Type of Work/Worker===
	# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>		# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>
	# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119</ref>		# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119 and 129</ref>
	# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>		# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>
	~~# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 </ref>~~
	# A subcontractor does not typically expect payment from a contractor immediately upon completing his work. Therefore, there is no Bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref>		# A subcontractor does not typically expect payment from a contractor immediately upon completing his work. Therefore, there is no Bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref>
			===Rental===
			====Item====
			# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126 </ref>
			# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>
			====Renting a Building Space====
			# There is a disagreement amongst the poskim regarding the rental of space in a building. Some poskim say that rent due for space in a building is subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127. see Shulchan Aruch CM 339:1 who quotes that there are those who say that land cannot be subject to bal talkin. Ahavat Chesed 9:6 recommends being strict and assume that bal talin does apply, as does Aruch Hashulchan 339:2.<br>
			see Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127 note 14 who quotes from Rav Avraham Pam that usually rent is paid in advance, and therefore bal talin would not apply</ref>

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	# If the worker is not hired directly by the employer, there is no violation of bal talin by either the employer or his intermediary.<ref> Shulchan Aruch CM 339:7 based on Baba Metzia 110b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116-117. see note 74 there for different explanations as to why this is the case</ref> Therefore, if the employer is not sure that he can pay on time, he should else someone else to hire the worker for him.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 109 based on Baba Metzia 111a</ref> However, doing so will make him unable to fulfill the positive mitzva of paying his worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118 in the name of the Chida and Rav Elyashiv</ref>		# If the worker is not hired directly by the employer, there is no violation of bal talin by either the employer or his intermediary.<ref> Shulchan Aruch CM 339:7 based on Baba Metzia 110b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116-117. see note 74 there for different explanations as to why this is the case</ref> Therefore, if the employer is not sure that he can pay on time, he should else someone else to hire the worker for him.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 109 based on Baba Metzia 111a</ref> However, doing so will make him unable to fulfill the positive mitzva of paying his worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118 in the name of the Chida and Rav Elyashiv</ref>
	# If an employer provides the funds but puts the hring and paying in the hands of a manager, that manager must pay on time and if he doesn't would be subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref> Similarly, if one's wife hires a worker for the house, even though she is technically hiring on behalf of her husband, she is subject to bal talin and must pay the worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref>		# If an employer provides the funds but puts the hring and paying in the hands of a manager, that manager must pay on time and if he doesn't would be subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref> Similarly, if one's wife hires a worker for the house, even though she is technically hiring on behalf of her husband, she is subject to bal talin and must pay the worker on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117</ref>
	# Some poskim say that if the worker continues to work for the employer with the latter's consent after the first payment, it is considered as if the employer himself confirmed the hire and is once again subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117 in the name of Rav Elyashiv.<ref> Accordingly, if a worker was hired through an agency, and then continues to work after the first payday, this would be subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118</ref>		# Some poskim say that if the worker continues to work for the employer with the latter's consent after the first payment, it is considered as if the employer himself confirmed the hire and is once again subject to bal talin.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 117 in the name of Rav Elyashiv.</ref> Accordingly, if a worker was hired through an agency, and then continues to work after the first payday, this would be subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 118</ref>

	===Corporations===		===Corporations===
	# Corporations are not subject to the prohibitions of delaying payment.<ref>Business Halacha, p.184.</ref> Managers are also not subject to this prohibition unless the wage is being withheld for personal purposes.<ref>Business Halacha, p. 185, based on Mishnas R’ Aharon (Volume 2, Responsa 73:3). Rabbi Marburger notes, though, that a manager is responsible so long as he or she has the ability to pay; the manager need not use personal money if the company funds are not available.</ref>		# Corporations are not subject to the prohibitions of delaying payment.<ref>Business Halacha, p.184.</ref> Managers are also not subject to this prohibition unless the wage is being withheld for personal purposes.<ref>Business Halacha, p. 185, based on Mishnas R’ Aharon (Volume 2, Responsa 73:3). Rabbi Marburger notes, though, that a manager is responsible so long as he or she has the ability to pay; the manager need not use personal money if the company funds are not available.</ref>

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	# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>		# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>
	===Type of Work/Worker===		===Type of Work/Worker===
	# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>~~Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Baba Metzia 111a,~~ Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>		# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>
	# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119</ref>		# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119</ref>
	# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>		# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>
	# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 </ref>		# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 </ref>
			# A subcontractor does not typically expect payment from a contractor immediately upon completing his work. Therefore, there is no Bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref>

	===Timing===		===Timing===
	====At What Point Would One be in Violation====		====At What Point Would One be in Violation?====
	# The obligation to pay an employee who works during the day, commences at the beginning of the night, and the employee must be paid by dawn. Conversely, if the employee works at night, the obligation commences at the beginning of the morning, and the employee must be paid by sunset.<ref> Shulchan Arukh 339:3</ref> However, if the employee who works during the day finishes before the day ends, the employee must be paid by sunset, meaning we always follow when the work was completed, irrespective of when it was begun. <ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:2, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 102. While Shulchan Aruch 339:3 writes that one who works during the day can be paid all night, the Rama there clarifies that this is only if his work continues into the night. This is clear from Shulchan Aruch 339:4 who states that if someone only worked a few hours during the night, he must be paid by dawn.<br>		# The obligation to pay an employee who works during the day, commences at the beginning of the night, and the employee must be paid by dawn. Conversely, if the employee works at night, the obligation commences at the beginning of the morning, and the employee must be paid by sunset.<ref> Shulchan Arukh 339:3</ref> However, if the employee who works during the day finishes before the day ends, the employee must be paid by sunset, meaning we always follow when the work was completed, irrespective of when it was begun. <ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:2, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 102. While Shulchan Aruch 339:3 writes that one who works during the day can be paid all night, the Rama there clarifies that this is only if his work continues into the night. This is clear from Shulchan Aruch 339:4 who states that if someone only worked a few hours during the night, he must be paid by dawn.<br>
	The Gemara Baba Metzia 111a says he has until the end of the night, and Rashi there (D"H Sechir Shaot) explains that this means until dawn, Amud Hashachar </ref>		The Gemara Baba Metzia 111a says he has until the end of the night, and Rashi there (D"H Sechir Shaot) explains that this means until dawn, Amud Hashachar </ref>
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	==Exceptions==		==Exceptions==
	# If the task has been completed, but the item has not been given to the employer/client, the obligation to pay is not yet in effect until the item is turned over to the employer/client.<ref> Shulchan ~~Arukh~~ Choshen Mishpat 339:6.</ref>		===Item Being Repaired is Still with the Craftsman===
			# If the task has been completed, but the item has not been given to the employer/client, the obligation to pay is not yet in effect until the item is turned over to the employer/client.<ref> Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 339:6 based on Baba Metzia 112a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref> Once the item is given, the rule of Bal talin are in full effect.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Aruch Hashulchan 339:8, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref> For example, if a jeweler informs the customer that his watch is ready to be picked up, but the customer does not go get it or pay for it until after sunset, he has not violated Bal talin because the jeweler was still holding his watch. Once the jeweler returns the watch, he must be paid by sunset<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref>

	===Payment is not Requested===		===Payment is not Requested===
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	# If the worker consents to wait for his payment, there is no bal talin.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 112-113. see note 61 there where he proves that this is the case even if the work was already completed and the time to pay has arrived</ref> Even if the worker is simply too embarrassed to press, and agrees to wait, there is no bal talin. But he must clearly express this consent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg</ref>		# If the worker consents to wait for his payment, there is no bal talin.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 112-113. see note 61 there where he proves that this is the case even if the work was already completed and the time to pay has arrived</ref> Even if the worker is simply too embarrassed to press, and agrees to wait, there is no bal talin. But he must clearly express this consent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Zalman Nechemia Goldberg</ref>
	# If a worker takes a job where he knows the employer doesn't pay on time, it is as if he agreed beforehand to accept late payment and there is no issue of bal talin.<Ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:9 based on Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113</ref>		# If a worker takes a job where he knows the employer doesn't pay on time, it is as if he agreed beforehand to accept late payment and there is no issue of bal talin.<Ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:9 based on Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 113</ref>
			# In some areas of service, the accepted practice is that the provider does not expect payment until he sends an invoice. If that is the case, one would not be obligated to pay until the invoice is provided.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 121 gives the example of a dental office.</ref> Once one receives the bill, he should pay within the normal amount of time according to the standards of that profession. Although if he delays he is not technically in violation of Bal talin, it is still rabbinically forbidden to delay the payment. <ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 in the name of Rav Elyashiv and Rav Scheinberg. see there where he writes that if one receives a medical bill, he should typically pay within 30 days. If he doesn't pay within that time, he would be in violation of the rabbinic prohibition of delaying. He adds that if they call to remind you, additional delay would certainly be forbidden.</ref>
			# Workers who provide a service on a steady basis, usually do not object if payment is deferred until the next time of service. Therefore, unless he specifically asks to be paid after each session, one may presume that he agrees to work in accordance with the customary practice and there would be no issue of bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 122 gives the example of a baby-sitter who comes to babysit on a regular basis</ref>

	===Employer Doesn't Have the Money===		===Employer Doesn't Have the Money===
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	===Corporations===		===Corporations===
	# Corporations are not subject to the prohibitions of delaying payment.<ref>Business Halacha, p.184.</ref> Managers are also not subject to this prohibition unless the wage is being withheld for personal purposes.<ref>Business Halacha, p. 185, based on Mishnas R’ Aharon (Volume 2, Responsa 73:3). Rabbi Marburger notes, though, that a manager is responsible so long as he or she has the ability to pay; the manager need not use personal money if the company funds are not available.</ref>		# Corporations are not subject to the prohibitions of delaying payment.<ref>Business Halacha, p.184.</ref> Managers are also not subject to this prohibition unless the wage is being withheld for personal purposes.<ref>Business Halacha, p. 185, based on Mishnas R’ Aharon (Volume 2, Responsa 73:3). Rabbi Marburger notes, though, that a manager is responsible so long as he or she has the ability to pay; the manager need not use personal money if the company funds are not available.</ref>

			===Sale===
			# Bal Talin does not apply to a sale. If somebody delays paying for an item that he is purchasing, he is not in violation of bal talin.<ref> Gilyon Rabbi Akiva Eiger on Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref> For example, if somebody buys a suit from a tailor who provides the fabric and makes custom suits, he is not in violation of bal talin because the charge is for the suit and not for the labor.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>

	==Precedence==		==Precedence==

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	===Timing===		===Timing===
	====At ~~what point would one~~ be in ~~violation~~====		====At What Point Would One be in Violation====
	# The obligation to pay an employee who works during the day, commences at the beginning of the night, and the employee must be paid by dawn. Conversely, if the employee works at night, the obligation commences at the beginning of the morning, and the employee must be paid by sunset.<ref> Shulchan Arukh 339:3</ref> However, if the employee who works during the day finishes before the day ends, the employee must be paid by sunset, meaning we always follow when the work was completed, irrespective of when it was begun. <ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:2, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 102. While Shulchan Aruch 339:3 writes that one who works during the day can be paid all night, the Rama there clarifies that this is only if his work continues into the night. This is clear from Shulchan Aruch 339:4 who states that if someone only worked a few hours during the night, he must be paid by dawn.<br>		# The obligation to pay an employee who works during the day, commences at the beginning of the night, and the employee must be paid by dawn. Conversely, if the employee works at night, the obligation commences at the beginning of the morning, and the employee must be paid by sunset.<ref> Shulchan Arukh 339:3</ref> However, if the employee who works during the day finishes before the day ends, the employee must be paid by sunset, meaning we always follow when the work was completed, irrespective of when it was begun. <ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:2, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 102. While Shulchan Aruch 339:3 writes that one who works during the day can be paid all night, the Rama there clarifies that this is only if his work continues into the night. This is clear from Shulchan Aruch 339:4 who states that if someone only worked a few hours during the night, he must be paid by dawn.<br>
	The Gemara Baba Metzia 111a says he has until the end of the night, and Rashi there (D"H Sechir Shaot) explains that this means until dawn, Amud Hashachar </ref>		The Gemara Baba Metzia 111a says he has until the end of the night, and Rashi there (D"H Sechir Shaot) explains that this means until dawn, Amud Hashachar </ref>
	# Although the technical obligation is to pay by dark, since it is not precisely clear when it first gets dark halakhically, it is best to pay by sunset <ref>Rabbi Ari Marburger, Business Halacha, p. 176). see Ahavat Chesed 9:1 who writes that since status of the time between sunset and tzet hakovachim is unclear, we should be strict and be sure to pay before sunset </ref>		# Although the technical obligation is to pay by dark, since it is not precisely clear when it first gets dark halakhically, it is best to pay by sunset <ref>Rabbi Ari Marburger, Business Halacha, p. 176). see Ahavat Chesed 9:1 who writes that since status of the time between sunset and tzet hakovachim is unclear, we should be strict and be sure to pay before sunset </ref>
	# When the employee earns a salary at the end of agreed upon periods, the employer must pay by that date.<ref>Business Halacha, p. 176.</ref>		# When the employee earns a salary at the end of agreed upon periods, the employer must pay by that date. Therefore, even if someone is hired for a long-term contract, if the agreement was that he would be paid weekly or bi-weekly, each of those paydays would be subject to bal talin<ref>Tashbetz 1:64, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120, Business Halacha, p. 176.</ref> This is true even if the pay day is not the time that the work period is completed, such as if he is paid on a Thursday and the work week ends on Friday.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 121 in the name of Rav Elyashiv</ref>

	====Payment in Advance====		====Payment in Advance====
	# If one pays in advance of the work being complete, one is not in violation of bal talin. According to some poskim, he would then be losing out on fulfilling the mitzva of paying on time. He can stipulate at the time that he gives the money that he is not technically transferring the money until it is due, in order to get this mitzva of paying on time.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 108. see note 46 there where he quotes from Shu"T Teshuvot Vihanhagot that the Chofetz Chaim would be sure to only pay the carriage driver at the end of the trip because he wanted to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time</ref>		# If one pays in advance of the work being complete, one is not in violation of bal talin. According to some poskim, he would then be losing out on fulfilling the mitzva of paying on time. He can stipulate at the time that he gives the money that he is not technically transferring the money until it is due, in order to get this mitzva of paying on time.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 108. see note 46 there where he quotes from Shu"T Teshuvot Vihanhagot that the Chofetz Chaim would be sure to only pay the carriage driver at the end of the trip because he wanted to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time</ref>

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	==Guidelines==		==Guidelines==
	# To avoid this prohibition, it is highly recommended that that before hiring any worker one should make sure to have cash at hand in order to pay his worker on time.<ref> Sefer Hachinuch Mitzva ~~585~~</ref>		# To avoid this prohibition, it is highly recommended that that before hiring any worker one should make sure to have cash at hand in order to pay his worker on time.<ref> Sefer Hachinuch Mitzva 588</ref>
	# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>		# No distinction is made between wages owed to a penniless worker who depends on his employer or a wealthy worker who is financially independent.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 96 </ref>
	# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>		# No distinction is made between small and large amounts of money owed to a worker<ref>Ahavat Chesed introduction to Perek 9, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 97. see there pg. 104 where he writes that some poskim rule that it applies to even less than a perutah</ref> or the amount of work that it takes.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:3 based on Baba Metzia 111b, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104</ref>
	# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref>		# Partial payments are subject to the prohibition of delaying payment, meaning payments must be made in full when due. Otherwise one would be in violation of Bal Talin<ref> Ahavat Chesed, 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> Even if the amount is in dispute and they plan to go to Beit Din, the employer must pay the amount that is agreed upon by both.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 105</ref> It would be advisable to settle on a price before the work is done so that it doesn't have to be brought for a din torah.<ref>[https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ]</ref>
	# After the work is completed, one may not use some pretext to bargain down the amount he owes or squeeze the worker for a reduction, unless the worker agrees wholeheartedly.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 130 in the name of Rav Pam, as even if you pay one peruta less than you owe him, you would be in violation of bal talin. </ref>		# After the work is completed, one may not use some pretext to bargain down the amount he owes or squeeze the worker for a reduction, unless the worker agrees wholeheartedly.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 130 in the name of Rav Pam, as even if you pay one peruta less than you owe him, you would be in violation of bal talin. </ref>
	# If one forgot to pay the worker and it is difficult for him to go back and pay, he may call the worker and ask if he can pay later. If the worker allows, then he avoids bal talin but still misses out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 134</ref>		# If one forgot to pay the worker and it is difficult for him to go back and pay, he may call the worker and ask if he can pay later. If the worker allows, then he avoids bal talin but still misses out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 134</ref>

	===Type of Work/Worker===		===Type of Work/Worker===
	# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a</ref>		# This prohibition can apply to different types of workers: a salaried employee, a service provider, or a craftsman.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 based on Baba Metzia 112a, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ]</ref>
	# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119 and 129</ref>		# The prohibition applies whether the worker is a man, woman or child.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:5, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119 and 129, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ]</ref>
	# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>		# Bal Talin does not apply to an akum, nor to an apikores or Jewish idolater.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 119. see note 86 there regarding the opinion of the Rambam on this issue</ref> However, although the technical mitzva does not apply, if delaying payment will cause a chilul Hashem, it is obvious that it would be forbidden to do so.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 120.</ref>
	# A subcontractor does not typically expect payment from a contractor immediately upon completing his work. Therefore, there is no Bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref>		# A subcontractor does not typically expect payment from a contractor immediately upon completing his work. Therefore, there is no Bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref>

	===Rental===		===Rental===
	====Item====		====Item====
	# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126. see also pg. 133 for specific examples </ref>		# The prohibition can apply to payment for the use of an item.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:1 based on Mishna Baba Metzia 111a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 104 and 126. see also pg. 133 for specific examples </ref>
	# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>		# In the case of a rental, bal talin would only apply for rent charged at the end of the rental, not rent charged in advance.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126.</ref>

	====Renting a Building Space====		====Renting a Building Space====
	# There is a disagreement amongst the poskim regarding the rental of space in a building. Some poskim say that rent due for space in a building is subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127. see Shulchan Aruch CM 339:1 who quotes that there are those who say that land cannot be subject to bal talin. Ahavat Chesed 9:6 recommends being strict and assume that bal talin does apply, as does Aruch Hashulchan 339:2.<br>		# There is a disagreement amongst the poskim regarding the rental of space in a building. Some poskim say that rent due for space in a building is subject to bal talin.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127. see Shulchan Aruch CM 339:1 who quotes that there are those who say that land cannot be subject to bal talin. Ahavat Chesed 9:6 recommends being strict and assume that bal talin does apply, as does Aruch Hashulchan 339:2.<br>
	see Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127 note 14 who quotes from Rav Avraham Pam that usually rent is paid in advance, and therefore bal talin would not apply</ref>		see Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 127 note 14 who quotes from Rav Avraham Pam that usually rent is paid in advance, and therefore bal talin would not apply. [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ] quotes others who say similarly</ref>
	# According to the poskim that using a building is subject to bal talin, the rental fees for using a mikveh would be subject to that prohibition. However, this only applies if the mikveh has a policy of no credit. In many cases though, the people in charge consent to the use paying at a later time when necessary. Accordingly, this would not be subject to bal talin, but one who doesn't pay then would be missing out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 131 in the name of Rav Scheinberg</ref>		# According to the poskim that using a building is subject to bal talin, the rental fees for using a mikveh would be subject to that prohibition. However, this only applies if the mikveh has a policy of no credit. In many cases though, the people in charge consent to the use paying at a later time when necessary. Accordingly, this would not be subject to bal talin, but one who doesn't pay then would be missing out on the positive mitzva of paying on time.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 131 in the name of Rav Scheinberg</ref>

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	===Form of Payment===		===Form of Payment===
	# Paying by check would not subject one to any violations, unless the employer stipulates payment by cash and that is the norm in that profession.<ref> Business Halacha, p. 186-187. There is a discussion among poskim about whether or not the bank has to be open in order for the prohibition of delaying payment to not be in effect (see Rabbi Moishe Dovid Lebovits, Halachically Speaking, Volume 4, p. 373-374). <br>		# Paying by check would not subject one to any violations, unless the employer stipulates payment by cash and that is the norm in that profession.<ref> Business Halacha, p. 186-187. There is a discussion among poskim about whether or not the bank has to be open in order for the prohibition of delaying payment to not be in effect (see Rabbi Moishe Dovid Lebovits, Halachically Speaking, Volume 4, p. 373-374, as well as Pitchei Choshen Hilchos Sechirus 9, note 36. <br>
	see also Halachos of Other of Other People's Money pg. 106-107 who distinguishes between Eretz Yisrael where a check can more easily be exchanged for cash and America where it can only be brought to a bank, although he acknowledges that in many circumstances the accepted practice is to pay by check and therefore bal talin wouldn't apply.</ref>		see also Halachos of Other of Other People's Money pg. 106-107 who distinguishes between Eretz Yisrael where a check can more easily be exchanged for cash and America where it can only be brought to a bank, although he acknowledges that in many circumstances the accepted practice is to pay by check and therefore bal talin wouldn't apply.</ref>
	# Payment with a post-dated check or credit card is not considered valid to avoid bal talin. If the employee consents to this form of payment, one would not be in violation of bal talin, but would still lose out on the mitzva of paying on time. <Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 107-108</ref>		# Payment with a post-dated check or credit card is not considered valid to avoid bal talin. If the employee consents to this form of payment, one would not be in violation of bal talin, but would still lose out on the mitzva of paying on time. <Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 107-108</ref>
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	===Item Being Repaired is Still with the Craftsman===		===Item Being Repaired is Still with the Craftsman===
	# If the task has been completed, but the item has not been given to the employer/client, the obligation to pay is not yet in effect until the item is turned over to the employer/client.<ref> Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 339:6 based on Baba Metzia 112a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref> Once the item is given, the ~~rule~~ of Bal talin are in full effect.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Aruch Hashulchan 339:8, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref> For example, if a jeweler informs the customer that his watch is ready to be picked up, but the customer does not go get it or pay for it until after sunset, he has not violated Bal talin because the jeweler was still holding his watch. Once the jeweler returns the watch, he must be paid by sunset<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref>		# If the task has been completed, but the item has not been given to the employer/client, the obligation to pay is not yet in effect until the item is turned over to the employer/client.<ref> Shulchan Aruch Choshen Mishpat 339:6 based on Baba Metzia 112a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ]</ref> Once the item is given, the rules of Bal talin are in full effect.<ref>Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Aruch Hashulchan 339:8, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 124</ref> For example, if a jeweler informs the customer that his watch is ready to be picked up, but the customer does not go get it or pay for it until after sunset, he has not violated Bal talin because the jeweler was still holding his watch. Once the jeweler returns the watch, he must be paid by sunset<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref>

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	===Employer Doesn't Have the Money===		===Employer Doesn't Have the Money===
	# If the employer does not have the money to pay his worker when the payment is due, there is no issue of bal talin.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:10 based on Baba Metzia 112a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 114</ref> This means that he doesn't have cash, or money available in a bank account. He would not be obligated to sell his assets.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 114. see there where he does qualify this statement, that if he has marketable assets that can be sold without a loss, he must do so to pay this worker </ref>		# If the employer does not have the money to pay his worker when the payment is due, there is no issue of bal talin.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 339:10 based on Baba Metzia 112a, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 114, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ]</ref> This means that he doesn't have cash, or money available in a bank account. He would not be obligated to sell his assets.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 114. see there where he does qualify this statement, that if he has marketable assets that can be sold without a loss, he must do so to pay this worker </ref>
	# If one only has a large bill, he must go get change and pay the worker.<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115 </ref>		# If one only has a large bill, he must go get change and pay the worker. Not having change is not an excuse not to pay<Ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt ] </ref>
	# If he doesn't have the full amount, but can pay a partial amount, he must do so. If he doesn't use all the money that he has available, he is in violation of bal talin.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115</ref>Even if he is left with a choice of paying this worker or buying food for Shabbat, he must choose paying the worker.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115, Biur Halacha OC 242: Lichavod</ref>		# If he doesn't have the full amount, but can pay a partial amount, he must do so. If he doesn't use all the money that he has available, he is in violation of bal talin.<Ref>Ahavat Chesed 9:10, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115</ref>Even if he is left with a choice of paying this worker or buying food for Shabbat, he must choose paying the worker.<ref> Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 115, Biur Halacha OC 242: Lichavod</ref>
	# If he can borrow the money easily and be able to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time, this is advisable.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116, Aruch Hashulchan 339:14</ref>		# If he can borrow the money easily and be able to fulfill the mitzva of paying on time, this is advisable.<Ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 116, Aruch Hashulchan 339:14</ref>
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	===Sale===		===Sale===
	# Bal Talin does not apply to a sale. If somebody delays paying for an item that he is purchasing, he is not in violation of bal talin.<ref> Gilyon Rabbi Akiva Eiger on Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref> For example, if somebody buys a suit from a tailor who provides the fabric and makes custom suits, he is not in violation of bal talin because the charge is for the suit and not for the labor.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126</ref>		# Bal Talin does not apply to a sale. If somebody delays paying for an item that he is purchasing, he is not in violation of bal talin.<ref> Gilyon Rabbi Akiva Eiger on Shulchan Aruch 339:6, Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 125</ref>
			# For example, if somebody buys a suit from a tailor who provides the fabric and makes custom suits, he is not in violation of bal talin because the charge is for the suit and not for the labor.<ref>Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 126, [https://torah.org/torah-portion/weekly-halacha-5771-kiseitzei/ Weekly Halacha by By Rabbi Doniel Neustadt] based on Ketzos ha-Choshen, C.M. 339:3 and Aruch ha-Shulchan, C.M. 339:7</ref>

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