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	#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Bal Yiraeh and Bal Yimatzeh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>*The Gra 443:11 writes that if someone has chametz of another Jew in your property you violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. He proves it from Rashi Pesachim 5b. Peni Yehoshua there and 4a agrees. See Or Chadash 4a who disagrees and argues based on Rashi Pesachim 46b. Rav Soloveitchik in Mesorah v. 3 p. 7 answers this proof of the Or Chadash. The fnt. on Maharam Chalavah (Pesachim 4a fnt. 26) cites also the Bet Meir 443, Torat Chaim 4a, and Tzlach 5b who hold like the Gra.		#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Bal Yiraeh and Bal Yimatzeh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>*The Gra 443:11 writes that if someone has chametz of another Jew in your property you violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. He proves it from Rashi Pesachim 5b. Peni Yehoshua there and 4a agrees. See Or Chadash 4a who disagrees and argues based on Rashi Pesachim 46b. Rav Soloveitchik in Mesorah v. 3 p. 7 answers this proof of the Or Chadash. The fnt. on Maharam Chalavah (Pesachim 4a fnt. 26) cites also the Bet Meir 443, Torat Chaim 4a, and Tzlach 5b who hold like the Gra.
	*The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.		*The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.
	*The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.</ref>		*The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Mishna Brurah 443:14 quotes both Magen Avraham and Gra. He adds that Bet Meir and Tzlach agree with Gra.</ref>
	#Similarly, someone who has a deposit of another Jew's chametz in his property on Pesach must get rid of it and there is a discussion if he would violate Bal Yiraeh and Bal Yimatzeh.<ref>Bach 443:5 and Magen Avraham 443:5 state that the one who has the chametz deposited by him wouldn't violate Baal Yiraeh but the owner would violate Baal Yiraeh, while the Gra 443:11 disagrees. Meiri Pesachim 4a s.v. vkol implies that in fact neither the owner or the one who it is deposited by would violate Baal Yiraeh.</ref>		#Similarly, someone who has a deposit of another Jew's chametz in his property on Pesach must get rid of it and there is a discussion if he would violate Bal Yiraeh and Bal Yimatzeh.<ref>Bach 443:5 and Magen Avraham 443:5 state that the one who has the chametz deposited by him wouldn't violate Baal Yiraeh but the owner would violate Baal Yiraeh, while the Gra 443:11 disagrees. Meiri Pesachim 4a s.v. vkol implies that in fact neither the owner or the one who it is deposited by would violate Baal Yiraeh.</ref>

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	==Pet Food==		==Pet Food==
	# Bread which spoiled and is still edible to dogs is forbidden to eat, benefit from, and may not be owned on Pesach since it could be used to leaven other doughs.<Ref>Pesachim 45b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:9. Ran Pesachim 13b s.v. vnisrefet explains that just like the Torah forbids sourdough (Heb. שאור; trans. se'or) since it is a leavening agent even though it isn't edible, so too spoiled bread is forbidden even though it is inedible since it is a leavening agent. Nonetheless, if the spoiled bread is so spoiled that it isn't even edible to dogs it is permitted since it is like dust as the Rif 14a writes.</ref>		# Bread which spoiled and is still edible to dogs is forbidden to eat, benefit from, and may not be owned on Pesach since it could be used to leaven other doughs.<Ref>Pesachim 45b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:9. Ran Pesachim 13b s.v. vnisrefet explains that just like the Torah forbids sourdough (Heb. שאור; trans. se'or) since it is a leavening agent even though it isn't edible, so too spoiled bread is forbidden even though it is inedible since it is a leavening agent. Nonetheless, if the spoiled bread is so spoiled that it isn't even edible to dogs it is permitted since it is like dust as the Rif 14a writes.</ref>
	# A chametz mixture which does not have the ability to leaven other foods and is inedible to people is permitted to own and benefit from on Pesach.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:4 clarifies that a chametz mixture is permitted if it isn't human-edible and can't be used to leaven other foods. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&pgnum=342 Chazon Ish OC 116:7] notes that the Rambam Chametz Umazah 4:12 clearly holds that the standard that chametz is forbidden unless it is inedible to dogs only applies to foods which are used to leaven other foods such as spoiled bread. However, other medicines or tanner's liquids which aren't used to leaven other foods are permitted as long as they are human-inedible. Mishna Brurah 442:12 seems to not distinguish. The Dirshu footnotes (note 20) explain that the Mishna Brurah fundamentally agrees with the Chazon Ish and is only strict on something that can be used to leaven other foods and people wouldn't do it because it is disgusting.</ref> Therefore, using tropical fish food that has chametz as an ingredient may be owned on Pesach and may be fed to fish on Pesach since it is edible to people.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef and Or Letzion v. 3 p. 92 that it is permissible to have and use tropical fish food with chametz in it since it is human-inedible.</ref> However, other pet foods such as dog, cat, and bird food potentially could be edible to people and therefore are forbidden if they contain chametz.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] writes that dog, cat, and bird foods with chametz are forbidden since they could be human-edible. Even though generally people would not eat them that is only because of convention and the fact that better foods are available. Similarly, Minchat Shlomo 1:17 proves that the standard of human-edible doesn't depend on what most people would want to eat as the gemara considered urine to be human-edible. [https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/chametz-mixtures-and-pet-food-a-bold-and-controversial-approach-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rabbi Avihud Schwartz (Techumin v. 35 pp. 47-54) that the dog food for army dogs is not human-edible and would be permitted if it isn't majority chametz or used to leaven other foods. Rabbi Jachter concludes that the standard Orthodox halacha pronounced by the OU, Star-K, and CRC is that pet foods with chametz are an issue and should be replaced with kosher for passover alternatives.</ref>		# A chametz mixture which does not have the ability to leaven other foods and is inedible to people is permitted to own and benefit from on Pesach.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:4 clarifies that a chametz mixture is permitted if it isn't human-edible and can't be used to leaven other foods. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&pgnum=342 Chazon Ish OC 116:7] notes that the Rambam Chametz Umazah 4:12 clearly holds that the standard that chametz is forbidden unless it is inedible to dogs only applies to foods which are used to leaven other foods such as spoiled bread. However, other medicines or tanner's liquids which aren't used to leaven other foods are permitted as long as they are human-inedible. Mishna Brurah 442:12 seems to not distinguish. The Dirshu footnotes (note 20) explain that the Mishna Brurah fundamentally agrees with the Chazon Ish and is only strict on something that can be used to leaven other foods and people wouldn't do it because it is disgusting.</ref> Therefore, using tropical fish food that has chametz as an ingredient may be owned on Pesach and may be fed to fish on Pesach since it is edible to people.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef and Or Letzion v. 3 p. 92 that it is permissible to have and use tropical fish food with chametz in it since it is human-inedible.</ref> However, other pet foods such as dog, cat, and bird food potentially could be edible to people and therefore are forbidden if they contain chametz.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] writes that dog, cat, and bird foods with chametz are forbidden since they could be human-edible. Even though generally people would not eat them that is only because of convention and the fact that better foods are available. Similarly, Minchat Shlomo 1:17 proves that the standard of human-edible doesn't depend on what most people would want to eat as the gemara considered urine to be human-edible. [https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/chametz-mixtures-and-pet-food-a-bold-and-controversial-approach-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rabbi Avihud Schwartz (Techumin v. 35 pp. 47-54) that the dog food for army dogs is not human-edible and would be permitted if it isn't majority chametz or used to leaven other foods. Rabbi Jachter concludes that the standard Orthodox halacha pronounced by the OU, Star-K, and CRC is that pet foods with chametz are an issue and should be replaced with kosher for passover alternatives.</ref> The standard approach in the Orthodox community has been that one should not serve one’s animals pet food that contain Chametz on Pesach. <ref>[https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/chametz-mixtures-and-pet-food-a-bold-and-controversial-approach-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Chaim Jachter]</ref>

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	# Bread which spoiled and is still edible to dogs is forbidden to eat, benefit from, and may not be owned on Pesach since it could be used to leaven other doughs.<Ref>Pesachim 45b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:9. Ran Pesachim 13b s.v. vnisrefet explains that just like the Torah forbids sourdough (Heb. שאור; trans. se'or) since it is a leavening agent even though it isn't edible, so too spoiled bread is forbidden even though it is inedible since it is a leavening agent. Nonetheless, if the spoiled bread is so spoiled that it isn't even edible to dogs it is permitted since it is like dust as the Rif 14a writes.</ref>		# Bread which spoiled and is still edible to dogs is forbidden to eat, benefit from, and may not be owned on Pesach since it could be used to leaven other doughs.<Ref>Pesachim 45b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:9. Ran Pesachim 13b s.v. vnisrefet explains that just like the Torah forbids sourdough (Heb. שאור; trans. se'or) since it is a leavening agent even though it isn't edible, so too spoiled bread is forbidden even though it is inedible since it is a leavening agent. Nonetheless, if the spoiled bread is so spoiled that it isn't even edible to dogs it is permitted since it is like dust as the Rif 14a writes.</ref>
	# A chametz mixture which do not have the ability to leaven other foods and is inedible to people is permitted to own and benefit from on Pesach.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:4 clarifies that a chametz mixture is permitted if it isn't human edible and can't be used to leaven other foods. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&pgnum=342 Chazon Ish OC 116:7] notes that the Rambam Chametz Umazah 4:12 clearly holds that the standard that chametz is forbidden unless it is inedible to dogs only applies to foods which are used to leaven other foods such as spoiled bread. However, other medicines or tanner's liquids which aren't used to leaven other foods are permitted as long as they human inedible. Mishna Brurah 442:12 seems not to distinguish. Dirshu ~~442:~~20 ~~explains~~ that the Mishna Brurah fundamentally agrees with the Chazon Ish and is only strict on something that can be used to leaven other foods and people wouldn't do it because it is disgusting.</ref> Therefore, using tropical fish food that has chametz as an ingredient may be owned on Pesach and may be fed to fish on Pesach since it is edible to people.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef and Or Letzion v. 3 p. 92 that it is permissible to have and use tropical fish food ~~which~~ chametz in it since it is human inedible.</ref> However, other pet foods such as dog, cat, and bird food potentially could be edible to people and therefore are forbidden if they contain chametz.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] writes that dog, cat, and bird foods ~~which~~ chametz are forbidden since they could be human edible. Even though generally people would ~~never~~ eat them that is only because of convention and the fact that better foods are available. ~~For example~~, Minchat Shlomo 1:17 proves that the standard of human edible doesn't depend on what most people would want to eat as the gemara considered urine to be human edible. [https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/chametz-mixtures-and-pet-food-a-bold-and-controversial-approach-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rabbi Avihud Schwartz (Techumin v. 35 pp. 47-54) ~~who in discussing the Israeli army dogs~~ that the dog food is not human edible and would be permitted if it isn't majority chametz or used to leaven other foods. Rabbi Jachter concludes that the standard Orthodox halacha pronounced by the OU, Star-K, and CRC is that pet foods with chametz are an issue and should be replaced with kosher for passover alternatives.</ref>		# A chametz mixture which does not have the ability to leaven other foods and is inedible to people is permitted to own and benefit from on Pesach.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:4 clarifies that a chametz mixture is permitted if it isn't human-edible and can't be used to leaven other foods. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&pgnum=342 Chazon Ish OC 116:7] notes that the Rambam Chametz Umazah 4:12 clearly holds that the standard that chametz is forbidden unless it is inedible to dogs only applies to foods which are used to leaven other foods such as spoiled bread. However, other medicines or tanner's liquids which aren't used to leaven other foods are permitted as long as they are human-inedible. Mishna Brurah 442:12 seems to not distinguish. The Dirshu footnotes (note 20) explain that the Mishna Brurah fundamentally agrees with the Chazon Ish and is only strict on something that can be used to leaven other foods and people wouldn't do it because it is disgusting.</ref> Therefore, using tropical fish food that has chametz as an ingredient may be owned on Pesach and may be fed to fish on Pesach since it is edible to people.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef and Or Letzion v. 3 p. 92 that it is permissible to have and use tropical fish food with chametz in it since it is human-inedible.</ref> However, other pet foods such as dog, cat, and bird food potentially could be edible to people and therefore are forbidden if they contain chametz.<ref>[http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2470 Rav Yaakov Sasson on halachayomit.co.il] writes that dog, cat, and bird foods with chametz are forbidden since they could be human-edible. Even though generally people would not eat them that is only because of convention and the fact that better foods are available. Similarly, Minchat Shlomo 1:17 proves that the standard of human-edible doesn't depend on what most people would want to eat as the gemara considered urine to be human-edible. [https://www.koltorah.org/halachah/chametz-mixtures-and-pet-food-a-bold-and-controversial-approach-by-rabbi-chaim-jachter Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rabbi Avihud Schwartz (Techumin v. 35 pp. 47-54) that the dog food for army dogs is not human-edible and would be permitted if it isn't majority chametz or used to leaven other foods. Rabbi Jachter concludes that the standard Orthodox halacha pronounced by the OU, Star-K, and CRC is that pet foods with chametz are an issue and should be replaced with kosher for passover alternatives.</ref>

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	==Chametz Mixtures==		==Chametz Mixtures==
	# There is a biblical prohibition of baal yiraeh and baal yimaseah to own a mixture of chametz on Pesach even if there is less than the proportion of a kezayit within a pras (1/6 or 1/8).<ref>		# There is a biblical prohibition of baal yiraeh and baal yimaseah to own a mixture of chametz on Pesach even if there is less than the proportion of a kezayit within a pras (1/6 or 1/8).<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
	# Something that has chametz in it and is nullified one in sixty there is a rabbinic mitzvah to get rid of them. If someone didn't get rid of them and didn't realize until after Pesach it is permitted to be eaten.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>		# Something that has chametz in it and is nullified one in sixty there is a rabbinic mitzvah to get rid of them. If someone didn't get rid of them and didn't realize until after Pesach it is permitted to be eaten.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
	# Something that has the taste of chametz in it, like a potato cooked in a chametz chullent, there is a dispute if there is a biblical or rabbinic obligation to remove it. If one didn't do so, after Pesach it is forbidden to eat. In a case of a large loss it is permitted for benefit.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>		# Something that has the taste of chametz in it, like a potato cooked in a chametz chullent, there is a dispute if there is a biblical or rabbinic obligation to remove it. If one didn't do so, after Pesach it is forbidden to eat. In a case of a large loss it is permitted for benefit.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
	# Something cooked in a chametz pot before Pesach, even though it is forbidden to eat on Pesach, may be kept over Pesach and eaten afterwards. This is true even if the chametz pot was used within 24 hours for chametz. Nonetheless, if it is a liquid it shouldn't be left in a chametz pot over pesach.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>		# Something cooked in a chametz pot before Pesach, even though it is forbidden to eat on Pesach, may be kept over Pesach and eaten afterwards. This is true even if the chametz pot was used within 24 hours for chametz. Nonetheless, if it is a liquid it shouldn't be left in a chametz pot over pesach.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
	# Something cooked in a chametz pot on Pesach is forbidden and must be gotten rid of, even if the pot wasn't used in 24 hours for chametz.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>		# Something cooked in a chametz pot on Pesach is forbidden and must be gotten rid of, even if the pot wasn't used in 24 hours for chametz.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>

	==Rentals and Deposits==		==Rentals and Deposits==
	#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>		#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>

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	It is forbidden to own chametz on Pesach and one who does violates the biblical commandment of Baal Yiraeh<ref>Shemot 13:7, Devarim 16:4</ref> and Baal Yimaseh,<ref>Shemot 12:19</ref> not owning or having chametz in your possession that is possible to be seen.<Ref>Pesachim 5b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:1</ref>		It is forbidden to own chametz on Pesach and one who does violates the biblical commandment of Baal Yiraeh<ref>Shemot 13:7, Devarim 16:4</ref> and Baal Yimaseh,<ref>Shemot 12:19</ref> not owning or having chametz in your possession that is possible to be seen.<Ref>Pesachim 5b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:1</ref>

			==Chametz Mixtures==
			# There is a biblical prohibition of baal yiraeh and baal yimaseah to own a mixture of chametz on Pesach even if there is less than the proportion of a kezayit within a pras (1/6 or 1/8).<ref>
			# Something that has chametz in it and is nullified one in sixty there is a rabbinic mitzvah to get rid of them. If someone didn't get rid of them and didn't realize until after Pesach it is permitted to be eaten.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
			# Something that has the taste of chametz in it, like a potato cooked in a chametz chullent, there is a dispute if there is a biblical or rabbinic obligation to remove it. If one didn't do so, after Pesach it is forbidden to eat. In a case of a large loss it is permitted for benefit.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
			# Something cooked in a chametz pot before Pesach, even though it is forbidden to eat on Pesach, may be kept over Pesach and eaten afterwards. This is true even if the chametz pot was used within 24 hours for chametz. Nonetheless, if it is a liquid it shouldn't be left in a chametz pot over pesach.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
			# Something cooked in a chametz pot on Pesach is forbidden and must be gotten rid of, even if the pot wasn't used in 24 hours for chametz.<ref>Mishna Brurah 442:1</ref>
	==Rentals and Deposits==		==Rentals and Deposits==
	#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>		#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>
	* The Gra 443:11 writes that if someone has chametz of another Jew in your property you violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. He proves it from Rashi Pesachim 5b. Peni Yehoshua there and 4a agrees. See Or Chadash 4a who disagrees and argues based on Rashi Pesachim 46b. Rav Soloveitchik in Mesorah v. 3 p. 7 answers this proof of the Or Chadash. The fnt. on Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 4a fnt. 26 cites also the Bet Meir 443, Torat Chaim 4a, and Tzlach 5b who hold like the Gra.		* The Gra 443:11 writes that if someone has chametz of another Jew in your property you violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. He proves it from Rashi Pesachim 5b. Peni Yehoshua there and 4a agrees. See Or Chadash 4a who disagrees and argues based on Rashi Pesachim 46b. Rav Soloveitchik in Mesorah v. 3 p. 7 answers this proof of the Or Chadash. The fnt. on Maharam Chalavah (Pesachim 4a fnt. 26) cites also the Bet Meir 443, Torat Chaim 4a, and Tzlach 5b who hold like the Gra.
	* The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.		* The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.
	* The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.</ref>		* The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.</ref>

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	==Less than a Kezayit==		==Less than a Kezayit==
	#Is there is baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit? Maharam Chalavah 45a s.v. amar and Rabbenu Dovid 6b s.v. iylayma explicitly hold that there is a biblical violation of baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit like every other prohibition that is prohibited with less than the requisite measure (Yoma 74a). It is possible to argue that based on Rashi, Tosfot, and other rishonim on 45a baal yiraeh biblically does not apply to less than a kezayit though it isn't explicit in their conclusions. Taz 442:5, Magen Avraham 442:10 in understanding Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:11 and Smak, Shagat Aryeh 81 hold that there's no biblical violation of baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit. See [[Bedikat_Chametz#What]].		# One must get rid of even less than a kezayit of chametz.<ref>Mishna Brurah 438:12, 444:33</ref>
			#Is there is baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit? Some rishonim hold that there is a biblical violation of baal yiraeh for less than a kezayit of chametz, others disagree and hold it is only a rabbinic obligation.<ref>Maharam Chalavah 45a s.v. amar and Rabbenu Dovid 6b s.v. iylayma explicitly hold that there is a biblical violation of baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit like every other prohibition that is prohibited with less than the requisite measure (Yoma 74a). It is possible to argue that based on Rashi, Tosfot, and other rishonim on 45a baal yiraeh biblically does not apply to less than a kezayit though it isn't explicit in their conclusions. Taz 442:5, Magen Avraham 442:10 in understanding Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:11 and Smak, and Shagat Aryeh 81 hold that there's no biblical violation of baal yiraeh on less than a kezayit.</ref> See [[Bedikat_Chametz#What]].

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	* The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.		* The Maharam Chalavah 4a s.v. hamaskir and Meiri 4a s.v. vkol hold that both the renter and owner don't violate Baal Yiraeh since the chametz isn't both entirely in their property as well as belong to either of them. Nonetheless, there is a rabbinic obligation to get rid of the chametz. Tosfot Chachmei Engliya 4a is explicit that the Jew who has Chametz of another Jew in his property doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and that Rashi 5b isn't conclusive. Fnt. to Maharam Chalavah cites the Rabbenu Dovid, and Ran who agree.
	* The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.</ref>		* The Bach 443:5 writes that someone who has a deposit of someone else's chametz doesn't violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Magen Avraham 443:5 agrees. However, they do state that the one who has the chametz in his property should get rid of the chametz of his fellow to protect him from violating Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.</ref>
	# Similarly, if someone has a deposit of another Jew's chametz in his property on Pesach he must get rid of it and there is a discussion if ~~the one who has it deposited by~~ would violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.<ref>Bach 443:5 and Magen Avraham 443:5 state that the one who has the chametz deposited by him wouldn't violate Baal Yiraeh but the owner would violate Baal Yiraeh, while the Gra 443:11 disagrees. Meiri Pesachim 4a s.v. vkol implies that in fact neither the owner or the one who it is deposited by would violate Baal Yiraeh.</ref>		# Similarly, someone who has a deposit of another Jew's chametz in his property on Pesach must get rid of it and there is a discussion if he would violate Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh.<ref>Bach 443:5 and Magen Avraham 443:5 state that the one who has the chametz deposited by him wouldn't violate Baal Yiraeh but the owner would violate Baal Yiraeh, while the Gra 443:11 disagrees. Meiri Pesachim 4a s.v. vkol implies that in fact neither the owner or the one who it is deposited by would violate Baal Yiraeh.</ref>

	==Storing Chametz in a Non-Jew's Property==		==Storing Chametz in a Non-Jew's Property==
	# A Jew who owns Chametz may not give it to a non-Jew to keep as a deposit even if it is stored in the non-Jew's property. If he does so he will violate owning Chametz on Pesach since in essence it is still his property.<ref>Rosh Pesachim 1:4 cites the Geonim who permitted giving his Chametz to a non-Jew as a deposit since it is physically outside his property. Their proof is a Mechilta. The Rosh disputed their position and quotes Rabbenu Yonah who also rejected the Geonim for other reasons. See Taz 440:4 for an explanation of Rabbenu Yonah. Rambam Chametz Umatza 4:3 and Tosfot Chachmei Angliya Pesachim 5b agree with the Rosh. The Rambam is absolutely explicit that this is a biblical prohibition. Ran Pesachim 2b s.v. umiyhu wonders as to the source for the Rambam. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 440:4 follows the Rosh and Rambam. However, the Ramban Pesachim 6a s.v. vnireh accepts the Geonim and only thinks that there is a rabbinic prohibition to get rid of one's chametz and not simply deposit it in a non-Jew's property. Ran Pesachim 2b s.v. umeyhu agrees.</ref>		# A Jew who owns Chametz may not give it to a non-Jew to keep as a deposit even if it is stored in the non-Jew's property. If he does so he will violate owning Chametz on Pesach since in essence it is still his property.<ref>Rosh Pesachim 1:4 cites the Geonim who permitted giving his Chametz to a non-Jew as a deposit since it is physically outside his property. Their proof is a Mechilta. The Rosh disputed their position and quotes Rabbenu Yonah who also rejected the Geonim for other reasons. See Taz 440:4 for an explanation of Rabbenu Yonah. Rambam Chametz Umatza 4:3 and Tosfot Chachmei Angliya Pesachim 5b agree with the Rosh. The Rambam is absolutely explicit that this is a biblical prohibition. Ran Pesachim 2b s.v. umiyhu wonders as to the source for the Rambam. Shulchan Aruch O.C. 440:4 follows the Rosh and Rambam. However, the Ramban Pesachim 6a s.v. vnireh accepts the Geonim and only thinks that there is a rabbinic prohibition to get rid of one's chametz and not simply deposit it in a non-Jew's property. Ran Pesachim 2b s.v. umeyhu agrees.</ref>

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	It is forbidden to own chametz on Pesach and one who does violates the biblical commandment of Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh, not owning or having chametz in your possession that is possible to be seen.		It is forbidden to own chametz on Pesach and one who does violates the biblical commandment of Baal Yiraeh<ref>Shemot 13:7, Devarim 16:4</ref> and Baal Yimaseh,<ref>Shemot 12:19</ref> not owning or having chametz in your possession that is possible to be seen.<Ref>Pesachim 5b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 442:1</ref>

	==Rentals and Deposits==		==Rentals and Deposits==
	#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>		#If someone rents their house to another Jew on Pesach and no one does bedika or bitul chametz, there is a dispute whether the owner violates Baal Yiraeh and Baal Yimaseh. Additionally, there is a dispute whether the renter violates those prohibitions. Certainly, the one who has it in his property should get rid of it before Pesach.<ref>