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	==Practical Examples==		==Practical Examples==
	# It is biblically forbidden to tear off a piece of aluminum foil, plastic wrap, or toilet paper from a long roll to a desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 340:41 </ref>		# It is biblically forbidden to tear off a piece of aluminum foil, plastic wrap, or toilet paper from a long roll to a desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 340:41 </ref> Ripping not to a specific size is still forbidden under [[Kore'ah]].<ref>39 Melachos p. 938 writes that cutting foil or plastic wrap to a measured size is Mechataich and when it is done without measuring it is [[Kore'ah]]. See Tiferet Mishna Brurah 322:15 citing Minchat Chinuch (Mosach Shabbat n. 33) who seems to be lenient.</ref>
	# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>		# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>
	# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> ~~Shmiras~~ Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are ~~brought~~. </ref>		# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shemiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are quoted. </ref>
	# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shulchan Shlomo 314:13:3), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30). Dor Hamelaktim v. 5 p. 3015 quoting Or Letzion 2:27:7, Halichot Olam v. 4 p. 254, and Nishmat Shabbat 322:354 who are lenient and Rav Elyashiv (Meor Shabbat v. 2 p. 551), Shevet Halevi (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), and Chut Shani v. 1 p. 128 who are strict.</ref>		# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shulchan Shlomo 314:13:3), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30). Dor Hamelaktim v. 5 p. 3015 quoting Or Letzion 2:27:7, Halichot Olam v. 4 p. 254, and Nishmat Shabbat 322:354 who are lenient and Rav Elyashiv (Meor Shabbat v. 2 p. 551), Shevet Halevi (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), and Chut Shani v. 1 p. 128 who are strict.</ref>
	# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>		# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>
	# Ripping not to a specific size can be permitted<ref>Tiferet 322:15 citing Minchat Chinuch (Mosach Shabbat n. 33)</ref> or forbidden under [[Kore'ah]].<ref>39 Melachos p. 938 writes that cutting foil or plastic wrap to a measured size is Mechataich and when it is done without measuring it is [[Kore'ah]].</ref>

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	# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>		# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>
	# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>		# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>
	# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>		# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shulchan Shlomo 314:13:3), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30). Dor Hamelaktim v. 5 p. 3015 quoting Or Letzion 2:27:7, Halichot Olam v. 4 p. 254, and Nishmat Shabbat 322:354 who are lenient and Rav Elyashiv (Meor Shabbat v. 2 p. 551), Shevet Halevi (Kovetz Mbet Levi v. 6 p. 45), and Chut Shani v. 1 p. 128 who are strict.</ref>
	# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>		# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>
	# Ripping not to a specific size can be permitted<ref>Tiferet 322:15 citing Minchat Chinuch (Mosach Shabbat n. 33)</ref> or forbidden under [[Kore'ah]].<ref>39 Melachos p. 938 writes that cutting foil or plastic wrap to a measured size is Mechataich and when it is done without measuring it is [[Kore'ah]].</ref>		# Ripping not to a specific size can be permitted<ref>Tiferet 322:15 citing Minchat Chinuch (Mosach Shabbat n. 33)</ref> or forbidden under [[Kore'ah]].<ref>39 Melachos p. 938 writes that cutting foil or plastic wrap to a measured size is Mechataich and when it is done without measuring it is [[Kore'ah]].</ref>

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	==Practical Examples==		==Practical Examples==
	# ~~One~~ is ~~chayav for tearing~~ off a piece of aluminum foil, plastic wrap, or toilet paper from a long roll to a desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 340:41 </ref>		# It is biblically forbidden to tear off a piece of aluminum foil, plastic wrap, or toilet paper from a long roll to a desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 340:41 </ref>
	# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>		# One violates this melacha by sharpening a pencil<ref> See Shabbos 75b where it states that one who drags the end of poles on the ground to sharpen them to a desired size is chayav for Mechateich. See also 39 Melachos (p. 935, note 3). </ref> or by cutting one’s hair or nails to a desired length when using the appropriate tool.<ref> 39 Melachos (p. 936, note 12). This is also a problem of gozez. The Minchat Chinuch in Musach Ha’Shabbos is quoted there stating that nonetheless Brit Mila is not a problem of Mechateich because the only reason we remove the orla is to fulfill Hashem’s commandment. </ref> Biting one’s nails or cutting them off by hand would only be a violation derabanan.<ref> See Mishna Brurah 532:1 where he states that biting and cutting one’s nails is irregular. </ref>
	# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>		# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>

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	==Definition==		==Definition==
	# Mechateich is defined as cutting any item to a specific, desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18 </ref>		# Mechateich is defined as cutting any item to a specific, desired size.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18 </ref>
	# Mechateich applies to all materials. Nonetheless, Mechateich does not apply to foods.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18 </ref>		# Mechateich applies to all materials. Nonetheless, Mechateich does not apply to foods.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18, Menuchat Ahava 3:21:5 </ref>
	# In order to be chayav for Mechateich, one must perform the cutting in the usual manner, so if the cutting typically involves a tool, one will be patur if he performs the cutting with his hand.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18 </ref>		# In order to be chayav for Mechateich, one must perform the cutting in the usual manner, so if the cutting typically involves a tool, one will be patur if he performs the cutting with his hand.<ref> Mishna Brurah 322:18 </ref>
			# Some say that it doesn't apply to cutting a utensil or a part of a functional utensil. Nonetheless it can be a violation of [[Makeh Bpatish]] or [[Kore'ah]].<ref>Menuchat Ahava 2:21:5</ref>

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	# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>		# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>
	# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>		# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>
			# Ripping not to a specific size can be permitted<ref>Tiferet 322:15 citing Minchat Chinuch (Mosach Shabbat n. 33)</ref> or forbidden under [[Kore'ah]].<ref>39 Melachos p. 938 writes that cutting foil or plastic wrap to a measured size is Mechataich and when it is done without measuring it is [[Kore'ah]].</ref>

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	# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>		# One may tear along the perforated lines of small packets of sugar, salt, ketchup, etc., even though one is cutting to a specific size, because the true purpose of the cutting is to create an opening, and one tears on these lines simply because it makes it easier to open the package. When one cuts along the perforations, he merely intends that the contents from the package should not spill out, not to cut the packet to a particular size.<ref> Shmiras Shabbos Ke’hilchata 9:14 note 25, quoting R’ Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, and note 16. See also Rabbi Dovid Ribiat “39 Melachos” p. 937, note 16, where both reasons discussed in the above paragraph are brought. </ref>
	# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>		# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>
			# Some Sephardic poskim allow ripping the toilet paper off of the perforated lines since one isn't cutting it to a specific size. It is best to rip it with one's elbow or another [[shinuy]]. Obviously one should prepare before Shabbat and not get into this situation.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (340:49, Shabbat v. 5 p. 146, 388)</ref>

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	* [[Mechatech]] by Rabbi Yaakov Neuburger		* [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/706525/Rabbi_Yaakov_B_Neuburger/Mechatech Mechatech] by Rabbi Yaakov Neuburger

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	# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>		# Some say that it is permitted to separate yogurt containers that are attached together and it isn't considered Mechataich or Metaken. Nonetheless, one who separates them before [[Shabbat]] will be blessed.<Ref>Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] v. 2, 314:30)</ref>