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Unknown user: /* Coming late to Maariv */

2022-03-25T03:55:40Z

Coming late to Maariv

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	# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref>		# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref>

	==Coming ~~late~~ to Maariv==		==Coming Late to Maariv==
	# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>		# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>
	# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Kaf Hachaim Palachi 2:2, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>		# However, if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Kaf Hachaim Palachi 2:2, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>
			# If someone came late to a plag hamincha maariv minyan and started Shemona Esrei with them, he should recite the Birchot Kriat Shema and Shema after tzet hakochavim and not immediately after Shemona Esrei.<ref>Mishna Brurah 236:12</reF>
	# If someone answered Barchu and didn't get to finish saying Vehu Rachum he shouldn't say them between Barchu and Birchot Kriyat Shema, rather you should say them after davening.<Ref>Yabia Omer OC 2:5</ref>		# If someone answered Barchu and didn't get to finish saying Vehu Rachum he shouldn't say them between Barchu and Birchot Kriyat Shema, rather you should say them after davening.<Ref>Yabia Omer OC 2:5</ref>

Unknown user: Text replacement - "Birkat HaLevana" to "Birkat Halevana"

2020-08-04T01:41:37Z

Text replacement - "Birkat HaLevana" to "Birkat Halevana"

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	# When we say the [[kedusha]] of viata kadosh we start from there and not uva litzion because the geula will not come at night. <ref> Mishna Brurah 295:2 </ref>		# When we say the [[kedusha]] of viata kadosh we start from there and not uva litzion because the geula will not come at night. <ref> Mishna Brurah 295:2 </ref>
	# One should stand for shuva Hashem and yoshev biseter and then sit for viata kadosh. <ref> Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Mishna Brurah 295:1 also writes that one should stand for viyhi noam </ref>		# One should stand for shuva Hashem and yoshev biseter and then sit for viata kadosh. <ref> Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Mishna Brurah 295:1 also writes that one should stand for viyhi noam </ref>
	# For laws of Birkat Halevana see [[Birkat ~~HaLevana~~]]		# For laws of Birkat Halevana see [[Birkat Halevana]]

	==Questions and Answers==		==Questions and Answers==

Unknown user: /* Sources */

2020-07-12T11:52:59Z

Sources

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	==Sources==		==Sources==
	<references/>		<references/>

			{{Prayers}}
	[[Category:Prayer]]		[[Category:Prayer]]

YitzchakSultan: /* Order of Maariv */

2017-10-17T17:40:20Z

Order of Maariv

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	==Order of Maariv==		==Order of Maariv==
	# The minhag is to say VeHu Rachum before [[Maariv]]. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:1 </ref>		# The minhag is to say VeHu Rachum before [[Maariv]]. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:1 </ref>
	# After one answers [[Barchu]] with Kavana that one is going to daven [[maariv]] now it’s forbidden to talk with others because it’s considered as if one begun the [[Brachot]] of [[Kriyat Shema]]. <ref>Raavan in Hamanhig (Tefillah no. 26), Rama 54:3, Mishna Brurah 236:1, Yabia Omer OC 2:5 </ref>		# After one answers [[Barchu]] with Kavana that one is going to daven [[maariv]] now it’s forbidden to talk with others because it’s considered as if one begun the [[Brachot]] of [[Kriyat Shema]]. <ref>Raavan in Hamanhig (Tefillah no. 26), Rama 54:3, Mishna Brurah 236:1</ref> However, it is permitted to answer amen or look into a sefer to learn without enunciating the words.<ref> Yabia Omer OC 2:5 </ref>
	# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered connected to the previous brachot (Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta). <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>		# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered connected to the previous brachot (Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta). <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>
	# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>		# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>

YitzchakSultan: /* Order of Maariv */

2017-10-17T17:37:43Z

Order of Maariv

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	==Order of Maariv==		==Order of Maariv==
	# The minhag is to say VeHu Rachum before [[Maariv]]. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:1 </ref>		# The minhag is to say VeHu Rachum before [[Maariv]]. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:1 </ref>
	# After one answers [[Barchu]] with Kavana that one is going to daven [[maariv]] now it’s forbidden to talk with others because it’s considered as if one begun the [[Brachot]] of [[Kriyat Shema]]. <ref>Mishna Brurah 236:1 </ref>		# After one answers [[Barchu]] with Kavana that one is going to daven [[maariv]] now it’s forbidden to talk with others because it’s considered as if one begun the [[Brachot]] of [[Kriyat Shema]]. <ref>Raavan in Hamanhig (Tefillah no. 26), Rama 54:3, Mishna Brurah 236:1, Yabia Omer OC 2:5 </ref>
	# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>		# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered connected to the previous brachot (Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta). <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>
	# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>		# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>
	# It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[Shmoneh Esrei]] just like in [[Shacharit]]. However, by [[Maariv]] it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between [[Kaddish]] and [[Maariv]] (which would be forbidden by [[Shacharit]]). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref>		# It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[Shmoneh Esrei]] just like in [[Shacharit]]. However, by [[Maariv]] it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between [[Kaddish]] and [[Maariv]] (which would be forbidden by [[Shacharit]]). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref>

YitzchakSultan: /* Coming late to Maariv */

2017-10-17T17:34:04Z

Coming late to Maariv

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	==Coming late to Maariv==		==Coming late to Maariv==
	# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>~~S”A~~ 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>		# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>
	# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>~~S”A~~ 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Kaf Hachaim Palachi 2:2, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>		# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Kaf Hachaim Palachi 2:2, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>
			# If someone answered Barchu and didn't get to finish saying Vehu Rachum he shouldn't say them between Barchu and Birchot Kriyat Shema, rather you should say them after davening.<Ref>Yabia Omer OC 2:5</ref>

	==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==		==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==

YitzchakSultan: /* Baruch Hashem Liolam */

2017-09-14T04:53:28Z

Baruch Hashem Liolam

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	* The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[Shmoneh Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it.		* The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[Shmoneh Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it.
	* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim.		* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim.
	* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref>		* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref>
			# Sephardim don't have the minhag to say Yiru Aynenu.<ref>Kaf Hachaim 236:12 citing the Arizal</ref>
	# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref>		# The Ashkenazic minhag is to sit while saying Baruch Hashem LeOlam. <Ref>Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 70:4</ref>

Dlhanon: /* Coming late to Maariv */

2016-11-08T00:27:56Z

Coming late to Maariv

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	==Coming late to Maariv==		==Coming late to Maariv==
	# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>		# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>
	# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>		# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Kaf Hachaim Palachi 2:2, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>

	==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==		==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==

YitzchakSultan: Text replacement - "Shemoneh Esrei" to "Shmoneh Esrei"

2015-06-14T15:36:20Z

Text replacement - "Shemoneh Esrei" to "Shmoneh Esrei"

Js: Text replacement - "Berura" to "Brurah"

2015-05-17T20:19:10Z

Text replacement - "Berura" to "Brurah"

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	==Arvit of Motzaei Shabbat==		==Arvit of Motzaei Shabbat==
	# For laws of [[Atta Chonantanu]] see [[Atta Chonantanu]]		# For laws of [[Atta Chonantanu]] see [[Atta Chonantanu]]
	# On Saturday night after the shemoneh esrei, we add viyhi noam and viata kadosh. <ref> Rama 295:1, Mishna ~~Berura~~ 295:2, Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Tur 295 writes that this is because we want to delay the return of the wicked to Gehenom </ref>		# On Saturday night after the shemoneh esrei, we add viyhi noam and viata kadosh. <ref> Rama 295:1, Mishna Brurah 295:2, Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Tur 295 writes that this is because we want to delay the return of the wicked to Gehenom </ref>
	# We repeat the pasuk of orech yamim... twice. <ref> Mishna ~~Berura~~ 295:1 </ref>		# We repeat the pasuk of orech yamim... twice. <ref> Mishna Brurah 295:1 </ref>
	# When we say the [[kedusha]] of viata kadosh we start from there and not uva litzion because the geula will not come at night. <ref> Mishna ~~Berura~~ 295:2 </ref>		# When we say the [[kedusha]] of viata kadosh we start from there and not uva litzion because the geula will not come at night. <ref> Mishna Brurah 295:2 </ref>
	# One should stand for shuva Hashem and yoshev biseter and then sit for viata kadosh. <ref> Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Mishna ~~Berura~~ 295:1 also writes that one should stand for viyhi noam </ref>		# One should stand for shuva Hashem and yoshev biseter and then sit for viata kadosh. <ref> Yalkut Yosef [[Shabbat]] vol. 1 pg. 442. Mishna Brurah 295:1 also writes that one should stand for viyhi noam </ref>
	# For laws of Birkat Halevana see [[Birkat HaLevana]]		# For laws of Birkat Halevana see [[Birkat HaLevana]]

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	# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>		# Of the 4 [[Brachot]] [[Kriyat Shema]] only the first one begins with Baruch the rest don’t begin with Baruch because they are considered Bracha HaSamucha LeChevarta. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:2,3</ref>
	# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>		# Some have minhag to change Bracha of Gaal Yisrael to Melech Tzur Yisrael however it’s preferable not to change the Bracha. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 236:3 </ref>
	# It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] just like in [[Shacharit]]. However, by [[Maariv]] it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between [[Kaddish]] and [[Maariv]] (which would be forbidden by [[Shacharit]]). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref>		# It’s forbidden to interrupt (with speech) between Gaal Yisrael and starting [[Shmoneh Esrei]] just like in [[Shacharit]]. However, by [[Maariv]] it’s permissible to announce [[Rosh Chodesh]] or [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] between [[Kaddish]] and [[Maariv]] (which would be forbidden by [[Shacharit]]). <Ref>S”A 236:2, Mishna Brurah 236:9 </ref>
	# After the amidah at the evening maariv service, one should wait until the chazan reaches Titkabel in kaddish before taking three steps forward. However, if this would involve a long wait then one may step forward after waiting the time it takes to walk four amot (about seven feet). <ref> Sh"t Rivivot Ephraim 1:176 </ref>		# After the amidah at the evening maariv service, one should wait until the chazan reaches Titkabel in kaddish before taking three steps forward. However, if this would involve a long wait then one may step forward after waiting the time it takes to walk four amot (about seven feet). <ref> Sh"t Rivivot Ephraim 1:176 </ref>
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	# Hashkiveinu has different endings for Shabbat/holidays and weekdays. One who uses the wrong ending for that particular day has fulfilled the obligation and need not repeat the blessing. <ref> Sh"t Rivivot Ephraim 1:174 </ref>		# Hashkiveinu has different endings for Shabbat/holidays and weekdays. One who uses the wrong ending for that particular day has fulfilled the obligation and need not repeat the blessing. <ref> Sh"t Rivivot Ephraim 1:174 </ref>
	===Baruch Hashem Liolam===		===Baruch Hashem Liolam===
	# The Ashkenazic Minhag outside [[Israel]] is to say Baruch Hashem LeOlam before [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] of [[Mariv]], however, in [[Israel]] the minhag is not to say these pesukim. If someone who lives outside [[Israel]] visits [[Israel]] he should not say these pesukim and make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur. If someone who lives in [[Israel]] temporarily leaves [[Israel]] he should not say these pesukim unless he is the Shaliach Tzibbur in which case he should. <Ref>		# The Ashkenazic Minhag outside [[Israel]] is to say Baruch Hashem LeOlam before [[Shmoneh Esrei]] of [[Mariv]], however, in [[Israel]] the minhag is not to say these pesukim. If someone who lives outside [[Israel]] visits [[Israel]] he should not say these pesukim and make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur. If someone who lives in [[Israel]] temporarily leaves [[Israel]] he should not say these pesukim unless he is the Shaliach Tzibbur in which case he should. <Ref>
	* The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it.		* The Tur 336 writes that originally when the shuls were in the fields where people were afraid to stay there too late. Therefore instead of [[davening]] a full [[Shmoneh Esrei]] they would recite the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. The Tur writes that nowadays there are two different Minhagim as to whether we should say the 18 Pesukim of Baruch Hashem LeOlam etc. and “Yiru” or not. Mishna Brurah 236:5 also writes that the minhag is to say it but some gedolim had the minhag not to say it.
	* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim.		* In most shuls in Chutz LaAretz the minhag is to say these Pesukim and in Eretz Yisrael the Minhag is not too- what should a person who lives outside [[Israel]] who goes to [[Israel]] do and vice versa? Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe OC 2:102 (pg 294) writes that the Minhag in [[Israel]] not to say it developed from the Talmidei HaGra and Baal HaTanya who both held not to say these Pesukim. Therefore, a person from outside [[Israel]] should not say them when in [[Israel]]. However, he should make sure to lengthen his Kerias HaShema in order to finish Birchos Kerias Shema with the Tzibbur thereby removing himself from a need to say these Pesukim.
	* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref>		* In regards to a ben- Eretz Yisrael who comes to Chutz LaAretz and intends to return, Rav Nevenzhal 336:2 writes he does not need to say it. Piskei Teshuvos 236:7 adds that if he is serving as the Sheliach Tzibbur then he should say it according to the Minhag of the place. </ref>
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	==Coming late to Maariv==		==Coming late to Maariv==
	# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>		# If one comes late to [[Maariv]] and one is able to catch up to the tzibbur by [[Shmoneh Esrei]] if one skips Baruch Hashem LeOlam one should do so and skip Baruch Hashem LeOlam in order to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur. After [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one should say Baruch Hashem LeOlam without a conclusion of the Bracha. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:11 </ref>
	# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[~~Shemoneh~~ Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>		# However if one came too late to catch up just start [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Tzibbur and say Shema with the [[Brachot]] after the last [[Barchu]] after [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. This is all true in a case where one can’t get another [[minyan]] afterwards, because if one is able to do so one should do that. <Ref>S”A 236:3, Mishna Brurah 236:12, Halichot Shlomo 13:13 </ref>

	==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==		==Waiting for someone to finish Arvit==