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	==Practical Examples==		==Practical Examples==
	# It is absolutely forbidden to strike a match or use a cigarette lighter on [[Shabbat]]. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197)</ref># It is forbidden to add oil to a Chanukia which is lit. <ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197)</ref>		# It is absolutely forbidden to strike a match or use a cigarette lighter on [[Shabbat]].<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197)</ref># It is forbidden to add oil to a Chanukia which is lit.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197)</ref>
	===Electricity===		===Electricity===
	see [[Electricity on Shabbat]]		see [[Electricity on Shabbat]]

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	One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. ~~'''Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.'''~~		One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]].
	==Definition==		==Definition==
	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>

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	One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. ~~<font color=red>~~Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.~~</font>~~		One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. '''Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.'''
	==Definition==		==Definition==
	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>

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	One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.		One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. <font color=red>Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.</font>
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	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>

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	One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]].		One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]]. Regarding the Shabbos App, see [[The Shabbos App]] section.
	==Definition==		==Definition==
	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>

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	One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]].		One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]].
	==Definition==		==Definition==

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			One of the 39 Melachos of Shabbos is lighting a fire or adding fuel to an already existing flame. A closely related issue is [[Electricity on Shabbat]].
	==Definition==		==Definition==
	~~Please note that the Shabbos App is absolutely forbidden.~~
	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>
	# One is only obligated for Mavir if it is done in a productive fashion, even though it is essentially a destructive act of the item being burnt. The Gemara provides the case of burning wood for the produced ash, but the Poskim extend the cases of obligation to any productive use of the fire including using it for light, heat, or other purposes.<ref> See Gemara Shabbos 106a, Rashi, Tosfos and other Rishonim there. Rambam paskins like R. Yehudah that even mavir requires a tikkun, but includes other tikkunim in 12:1. </ref>		# One is only obligated for Mavir if it is done in a productive fashion, even though it is essentially a destructive act of the item being burnt. The Gemara provides the case of burning wood for the produced ash, but the Poskim extend the cases of obligation to any productive use of the fire including using it for light, heat, or other purposes.<ref> See Gemara Shabbos 106a, Rashi, Tosfos and other Rishonim there. Rambam paskins like R. Yehudah that even mavir requires a tikkun, but includes other tikkunim in 12:1. </ref>
	==In the Mishkan==		==In the Mishkan==
	# Mavir was performed in the Mishkan when lighting a fire under a vat of spices in order to cook them in the preparation of dyes used for the cloth structures of the Mishkan.<ref> See Mishna 73a and Rashi there, s.v. Mechabeh UMavir.</ref> Alternatively, it may have been done in the process of refining and smelting metal.<ref> See Tosfos 94a s.v. R. Shimon, 39 Melachos, Rabbi Ribiat page 1195, footnote 1. See Rambam 12:1 who considers this a Toldah of Mavir, but not an Av.</ref>		# Mavir was performed in the Mishkan when lighting a fire under a vat of spices in order to cook them in the preparation of dyes used for the cloth structures of the Mishkan.<ref> See Mishna 73a and Rashi there, s.v. Mechabeh UMavir.</ref> Alternatively, it may have been done in the process of refining and smelting metal.<ref> See Tosfos 94a s.v. R. Shimon, 39 Melachos, Rabbi Ribiat page 1195, footnote 1. See Rambam 12:1 who considers this a Toldah of Mavir, but not an Av.</ref>

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			Please note that the Shabbos App is absolutely forbidden.
	# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>		# The Melacha of [[Mavir]] includes kindling a fire, adding fuel to a fire, or spreading a fire.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 4, p. 1197). See Gemara Krisos 20a, Beitzah 22a, Shabbos 120b about opening a door for the wind to enhance a torch or flame.</ref>
	# One is only obligated for Mavir if it is done in a productive fashion, even though it is essentially a destructive act of the item being burnt. The Gemara provides the case of burning wood for the produced ash, but the Poskim extend the cases of obligation to any productive use of the fire including using it for light, heat, or other purposes.<ref> See Gemara Shabbos 106a, Rashi, Tosfos and other Rishonim there. Rambam paskins like R. Yehudah that even mavir requires a tikkun, but includes other tikkunim in 12:1. </ref>		# One is only obligated for Mavir if it is done in a productive fashion, even though it is essentially a destructive act of the item being burnt. The Gemara provides the case of burning wood for the produced ash, but the Poskim extend the cases of obligation to any productive use of the fire including using it for light, heat, or other purposes.<ref> See Gemara Shabbos 106a, Rashi, Tosfos and other Rishonim there. Rambam paskins like R. Yehudah that even mavir requires a tikkun, but includes other tikkunim in 12:1. </ref>