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	~~==General prohibition==~~		#REDIRECT [[Dosh]]
	# ~~Dash includes removing any earth-grown food from its natural shell or attachment.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 317) </ref>~~
	~~==Sechita (squeezing)==~~
	#It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2. Squeezing a liquid out of a solid (Sechita) is Mefarek which is a Toldah of the Melacha of Dash (Iglei Tal, Dash #8, Mishna Brurah 320:1).
	* S"A 320:1 writes that it's forbidden to squeeze olives and grapes and the juice which flows from them by itself is forbidden for consumption, however, berries and pomegranates even though they are forbidden to be squeezed the juices from them that flow by itself are permissible if the fruit was meant to be eaten and not be squeezed for the juice, lastly, all other fruit is permissible to squeeze. The Rama 320:1 explains that in places where it's normal to squeeze certain fruits for it's juices it is also forbidden to squeeze like berries and pomegranates. Mishna Brurah 320:5 explains that squeezing berries and pomegranates is forbidden rabbinically because some people squeeze them for the juice like grapes and olives. However, all other fruit in the days of Shulchan Aruch weren't squeezed for juice but rather were eaten and so it would be permissible because the fruit if considered like a solid and extracting one solid from another is permissible.
	* Therefore, the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (chap 5 note 4) writes that nowadays that it is common to squeeze all fruit for the juice it's forbidden to squeeze any fruit on Shabbat. On the other hand, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 3, 343 and 491) delineates certain fruits which are squeezed for the juices in some places such as grapes, olives, berries, pomegranates, apples, grapefruits, pears, mangoes, tangerines, and pineapples would be forbidden to squeeze on Shabbat, however, fruits which are not squeezed anywhere such as quince or watermelon one may squeeze it on Shabbat. Yalkut Yosef (pg 344) adds that even when it's permissible to squeeze a fruit it may only be done by hand and not with a juicer (tool).</ref> One may not squeeze a fruit into an empty vessel with intent to put solid food in afterwards. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5 </ref>
	# It’s permitted to squeeze a fruit with one’s hand onto a solid food if either the food absorbs the liquid or the liquid is meant to improve the flavor of the food. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:3,7 </ref>
	~~===liquids that oozed out themselves===~~
	~~# Juice that oozed (by itself) out of fruit, which is specifically designated to be eaten, is permitted to drink. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:11 </ref>~~
	~~===Squeezing a lemon===~~
	# For example, it’s permitted to squeeze a lemon on sugar even if one’s intent is to put the sugar in a liquid afterwards, however, there are authorities who are strict on this issue. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5,6 </ref>
	~~# It’s permissible to cut a slice of lemon and put it into a drink. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:2 </ref>~~
	~~===Squeezing out excess liquid===~~
	# It’s permitted to squeeze out excess liquid in a food to improve it’s taste if it’s done immediately prior to eating. For example it’s permitted to squeeze a pickled cucumber to remove some of it’s vinegar. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:8 </ref>
	~~===Sucking out a liquid===~~
	# One may hold onto a fruit and suck on it (extracting the liquid) while it’s in one’s mouth. However, one shouldn’t squeeze the fruit with one’s hand. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:10 </ref>
	~~# It’s permitted to dip bread in a soup or other dip and then suck off the liquid, but it’s preferable to eat a little of the bread with it. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:9 </ref>~~
	~~===Cutting a grapefruit or watermelon===~~
	# It’s permitted to cut a grapefruit (or watermelon) even if liquids will ooze out as long as one doesn’t intend specifically to drink the juices rather to eat the fruit and that one doesn’t intentionally doesn’t squeeze the fruit. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:12, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 3, pg 345) </ref>
	~~===On Yom Tov===~~
	~~# It’s permitted to soak matzah and squeeze out the liquid in preparation to cooking. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:14 </ref>~~
	~~===Squeezing Grapes===~~
	~~# It’s preferable not to squeeze grapes even onto solid foods that will absorb the liquid or be improved. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:4 </ref>~~
	# One shouldn’t suck on grapes while holding them in one’s hand, rather one should put the entire grape in one’s mouth, eat (or suck on it) and take out what’s left. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:10 </ref>
	~~# Juice that oozed out of grapes by itself, is forbidden to drink. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:11 </ref>~~

	~~==References==~~
	~~<references/>~~

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-==Introduction==
+==General prohibition==
-# Included in the prohibition of grinding are chopping up finely, grating, crushing, mashing, shredding, or breaking something into small pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:1 </ref>
+# Dash includes removing any earth-grown food from its natural shell or attachment.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 317) </ref>
 ==Sechita (squeezing)==
 #It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2. Squeezing a liquid out of a solid (Sechita) is Mefarek which is a Toldah of the Melacha of Dash (Iglei Tal, Dash #8, Mishna Brurah 320:1).

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Sechita (squeezing)

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	# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>		# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>
	==Sechita (squeezing)==		==Sechita (squeezing)==
	#It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2. Squeezing a liquid out of a solid (Sechita) is Mefarek which is a Toldah of the Melacha of Dash (Iglei Tal, Dash #8). </ref> One may not squeeze a fruit into an empty vessel with intent to put solid food in afterwards. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5 </ref>		#It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2. Squeezing a liquid out of a solid (Sechita) is Mefarek which is a Toldah of the Melacha of Dash (Iglei Tal, Dash #8, Mishna Brurah 320:1).
			* S"A 320:1 writes that it's forbidden to squeeze olives and grapes and the juice which flows from them by itself is forbidden for consumption, however, berries and pomegranates even though they are forbidden to be squeezed the juices from them that flow by itself are permissible if the fruit was meant to be eaten and not be squeezed for the juice, lastly, all other fruit is permissible to squeeze. The Rama 320:1 explains that in places where it's normal to squeeze certain fruits for it's juices it is also forbidden to squeeze like berries and pomegranates. Mishna Brurah 320:5 explains that squeezing berries and pomegranates is forbidden rabbinically because some people squeeze them for the juice like grapes and olives. However, all other fruit in the days of Shulchan Aruch weren't squeezed for juice but rather were eaten and so it would be permissible because the fruit if considered like a solid and extracting one solid from another is permissible.
			* Therefore, the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (chap 5 note 4) writes that nowadays that it is common to squeeze all fruit for the juice it's forbidden to squeeze any fruit on Shabbat. On the other hand, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 3, 343 and 491) delineates certain fruits which are squeezed for the juices in some places such as grapes, olives, berries, pomegranates, apples, grapefruits, pears, mangoes, tangerines, and pineapples would be forbidden to squeeze on Shabbat, however, fruits which are not squeezed anywhere such as quince or watermelon one may squeeze it on Shabbat. Yalkut Yosef (pg 344) adds that even when it's permissible to squeeze a fruit it may only be done by hand and not with a juicer (tool).</ref> One may not squeeze a fruit into an empty vessel with intent to put solid food in afterwards. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5 </ref>
	# It’s permitted to squeeze a fruit with one’s hand onto a solid food if either the food absorbs the liquid or the liquid is meant to improve the flavor of the food. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:3,7 </ref>		# It’s permitted to squeeze a fruit with one’s hand onto a solid food if either the food absorbs the liquid or the liquid is meant to improve the flavor of the food. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:3,7 </ref>
	===liquids that oozed out themselves===		===liquids that oozed out themselves===
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	# It’s permitted to dip bread in a soup or other dip and then suck off the liquid, but it’s preferable to eat a little of the bread with it. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:9 </ref>		# It’s permitted to dip bread in a soup or other dip and then suck off the liquid, but it’s preferable to eat a little of the bread with it. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:9 </ref>
	===Cutting a grapefruit or watermelon===		===Cutting a grapefruit or watermelon===
	# It’s permitted to cut a grapefruit (or watermelon) even if liquids will ooze out as long as one doesn’t intend specifically to drink the juices rather to eat the fruit and that one doesn’t intentionally doesn’t squeeze the fruit. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:12 </ref>		# It’s permitted to cut a grapefruit (or watermelon) even if liquids will ooze out as long as one doesn’t intend specifically to drink the juices rather to eat the fruit and that one doesn’t intentionally doesn’t squeeze the fruit. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:12, Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat, vol 3, pg 345) </ref>
	===On Yom Tov===		===On Yom Tov===
	# It’s permitted to soak matzah and squeeze out the liquid in preparation to cooking. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:14 </ref>		# It’s permitted to soak matzah and squeeze out the liquid in preparation to cooking. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:14 </ref>

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	# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>		# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>
	==Sechita (squeezing)==		==Sechita (squeezing)==
	#It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2 </ref> One may not squeeze a fruit into an empty vessel with intent to put solid food in afterwards. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5 </ref>		#It’s forbidden to squeeze a fruit in order to extract it’s liquid if one squeezes the fruit into a liquid or empty vessel. The prohibition is violated whether it’s done with one’s hand or a utensil. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:1,2. Squeezing a liquid out of a solid (Sechita) is Mefarek which is a Toldah of the Melacha of Dash (Iglei Tal, Dash #8). </ref> One may not squeeze a fruit into an empty vessel with intent to put solid food in afterwards. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:5 </ref>
	# It’s permitted to squeeze a fruit with one’s hand onto a solid food if either the food absorbs the liquid or the liquid is meant to improve the flavor of the food. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:3,7 </ref>		# It’s permitted to squeeze a fruit with one’s hand onto a solid food if either the food absorbs the liquid or the liquid is meant to improve the flavor of the food. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 5:3,7 </ref>
	===liquids that oozed out themselves===		===liquids that oozed out themselves===

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 # One can be lenient to cut a food very small for a small child to eat so long as it’s immediately prior to the meal. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:6 </ref>
 # It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>
 ==References==
 <references/>

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	==Grinding for a small child==		==Grinding for a small child==
	# One can be lenient to cut a food very small for a small child to eat so long as it’s immediately prior to the meal. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:6 </ref>		# One can be lenient to cut a food very small for a small child to eat so long as it’s immediately prior to the meal. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:6 </ref>
	# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a ~~furit~~ or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>		# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a fruit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>

	==References==		==References==
	<references/>		<references/>

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==Introduction==
# Included in the prohibition of grinding are chopping up finely, grating, crushing, mashing, shredding, or breaking something into small pieces. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:1 </ref>
# This prohibition applies to non-foods as well, for example crushing a clod of dirt, chopping a piece of wood into small chips, sawing to make sawdust. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:1 </ref>
==Utensils designated for grinding==
# Under all circumstances, it’s forbidden to use a utensil designated for grinding such as a grater, mincer, mortar and knife used specifically to chop finely. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:2 </ref>
# A vegetable chopper (with blades fitted with springs on a axis) is forbidden since it chops vegetables thinly. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:3 </ref>
# An egg slicer (with equally spaced wires that slice the egg when pressed) is permitted. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:3 </ref>
# A special cheese knife isn’t a utensil designated to be used for chopping finely. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:11 </ref>
==Foods that grow from the ground==
# One may not chop, shred, mash, or grate a food that grows from the ground such as fruits and vegetables. It’s permissible to cut the food as long as the resulting pieces aren’t too small and it’s done right before the meal. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:6 </ref>
# One may not spread a soft fruit such as a banana or avocado. However, this prohibiton wouldn’t apply to food that’s so soft that when pulled the part one is holding comes away in one’s fingers. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:7 </ref>
==Cooked fruits and vegetables==
# There’s no prohibition of grinding concerning fruit or vegetables cooked to the extent that it’s soft and easy to mash such as jam. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:9 </ref>
# One shouldn’t use a fork to mash a cooked fruit or vegetable unless it was partly crushed out of shape before or during the cooking and is easily mashed. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:10. orchot Shabbat 1:5:9 </ref>
# One shouldn’t use a strainer to puree or cream a cooked fruit or vegetable since the strainer has a designated purpose of being used to mash. <Ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:10 </ref>
==Foods that don’t grow from the ground==
# It’s permissible to grind foods that don’t grow from the ground including fish, meat, eggs, and cheese. However, one may not use a utensil designated for grinding. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:11 </ref>
==Grinding for a small child==
# One can be lenient to cut a food very small for a small child to eat so long as it’s immediately prior to the meal. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:6 </ref>
# It’s forbidden to mash or squash a furit or vegetable such as a banana or tomato. If one has to mash a banana for a small child one should do it with a variation such as using the handle of a fork or a spoon. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 6:8 </ref>

==References==
<references/>