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		<title>YitzchakSultan1: /* Selichot Without a Minyan */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Selichot Without a Minyan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# If one is praying without a minyan, he should not say the thirteen attributes as a prayer, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Rashba Teshuva 1:211 writes that the 13 middot of Rachamim cannot be said without a minyan since they are considered a devar shebekedusha. This is codified by the Shulchan Aruch O.C. 565:5, Mishna Brurah 581:4, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 and Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11). see also [http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2135 Halachayomit]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# If one is praying without a minyan, he should not say the thirteen attributes as a prayer,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Rashba Teshuva 1:211 writes that the 13 middot of Rachamim cannot be said without a minyan since they are considered a devar shebekedusha. This is codified by the Shulchan Aruch O.C. 565:5, Mishna Brurah 581:4, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 and Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11). see also [http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2135 Halachayomit]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the other hand, see Darkei Moshe O.C. 565:4 where he cites the opinion of the Sefer Haminhagim that even an individual can recite them. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but one can read the Yud Gimmel middot (13 attributes) with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 565:5 based on Shu&amp;quot;t Harashba 1:211, Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Shu&amp;quot;t Yechave Daat 1:47 and Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim 27), Yalkut Yosef Tefilla 2: page 131 [[http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 Halacha Yomit]], Chida in Machazik Beracha 131:6, Ben Ish Chai (Shanah Aleph, Parashat Ki Tisa Halacha 9), Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the other hand, see Darkei Moshe O.C. 565:4 where he cites the opinion of the Sefer Haminhagim that even an individual can recite them. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but one can read the Yud Gimmel middot (13 attributes) with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 565:5 based on Shu&amp;quot;t Harashba 1:211, Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Shu&amp;quot;t Yechave Daat 1:47 and Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim 27), Yalkut Yosef Tefilla 2: page 131 [[http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 Halacha Yomit]], Chida in Machazik Beracha 131:6, Ben Ish Chai (Shanah Aleph, Parashat Ki Tisa Halacha 9), Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Iggerot Moshe YD 3:21 allows them to be recited without a [[minyan]] as long you use any melody other than the one used for [[prayer]] and doesn&amp;#039;t require that it be the same cantillation as the torah.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Iggerot Moshe YD 3:21 allows them to be recited without a [[minyan]] as long you use any melody other than the one used for [[prayer]] and doesn&amp;#039;t require that it be the same cantillation as the torah.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>YitzchakSultan1: /* Sepharadim */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Sepharadim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# At the end of each phrase of עשה למען שמך it is proper to answer Amen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ner Tzion p. 79 writes that it is proper to answer Amen and not Aseh, which sounds like as though one is commanding Hashem. Rabbi Shalom Cohen (Divrei Shalom Moadim p. 10) also writes that they should respond Amen to the Aseh Lemaan Avraham Yitzchak etc. Sidur Kavanat Halev quotes Ish Matzliach also as writing that answering Amen is more correct than Aseh for that piyut. However, Rav Yosef Mashdi (Aliba Dhilchata v. 103 p. 94 fnt. 31 and 101) writes it is better to answer Aseh rather than Amen, which could be said improperly. You should say Aseh with the intent of a request and not a command. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Moroccan custom is not to recite Amen but rather to say it quietly along with the Shaliach Tzibur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Machzor Avoteynu (Yom Kippur p. 399) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# At the end of each phrase of עשה למען שמך it is proper to answer Amen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ner Tzion p. 79 writes that it is proper to answer Amen and not Aseh, which sounds like as though one is commanding Hashem. Rabbi Shalom Cohen (Divrei Shalom Moadim p. 10) also writes that they should respond Amen to the Aseh Lemaan Avraham Yitzchak etc. Sidur Kavanat Halev quotes Ish Matzliach also as writing that answering Amen is more correct than Aseh for that piyut. However, Rav Yosef Mashdi (Aliba Dhilchata v. 103 p. 94 fnt. 31 and 101) writes it is better to answer Aseh rather than Amen, which could be said improperly. You should say Aseh with the intent of a request and not a command. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Moroccan custom is not to recite Amen but rather to say it quietly along with the Shaliach Tzibur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Machzor Avoteynu (Yom Kippur p. 399&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# We don&amp;#039;t add extra anenu&amp;#039;s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chacham Ovadia (Chazon Ovadia p. 17) quoting Rav Eliyahu Mani, Rabbi Lebhar (Moroccan, Magen Avot p. 351&lt;/ins&gt;)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# At the end of each phrase of עשה למען שמך it is proper to answer Amen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ner Tzion p. 79 writes that it is proper to answer Amen and not Aseh, which sounds like as though one is commanding Hashem.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Moroccan custom is not to recite Amen but rather to say it quietly along with the Shaliach Tzibur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Machzor Avoteynu (Yom Kippur p. 399) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# At the end of each phrase of עשה למען שמך it is proper to answer Amen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ner Tzion p. 79 writes that it is proper to answer Amen and not Aseh, which sounds like as though one is commanding Hashem&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. Rabbi Shalom Cohen (Divrei Shalom Moadim p. 10) also writes that they should respond Amen to the Aseh Lemaan Avraham Yitzchak etc. Sidur Kavanat Halev quotes Ish Matzliach also as writing that answering Amen is more correct than Aseh for that piyut. However, Rav Yosef Mashdi (Aliba Dhilchata v. 103 p. 94 fnt. 31 and 101) writes it is better to answer Aseh rather than Amen, which could be said improperly. You should say Aseh with the intent of a request and not a command&lt;/ins&gt;. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Moroccan custom is not to recite Amen but rather to say it quietly along with the Shaliach Tzibur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Machzor Avoteynu (Yom Kippur p. 399) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>YitzchakSultan1: /* Questions about the Text */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Questions about the Text&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l71&quot;&gt;Line 71:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&amp;#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# At the end of each phrase of עשה למען שמך it is proper to answer Amen.&amp;lt;ref&gt;Ner Tzion p. 79 writes that it is proper to answer Amen and not Aseh, which sounds like as though one is commanding Hashem.&amp;lt;/ref&gt; The Moroccan custom is not to recite Amen but rather to say it quietly along with the Shaliach Tzibur.&amp;lt;ref&gt;Machzor Avoteynu (Yom Kippur p. 399) &amp;lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>YitzchakSultan1: /* Sepharadim */</title>
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		<updated>2025-09-25T13:43:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Sepharadim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The proper text is עֲנֵנוּ אֱלָהָא דְמֵאִיר עֲנֵנוּ and not אלקא דרבי מאיר.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Chacham Ovadia Yosef (in Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim) pg. 17 and Halichot Olam 8: pg 53), Rav Chaim Palagi (Shu&amp;quot;t Lev Chaim 2:160), Sdei Chemed Maarechet Eretz Yisrael: 6 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The proper text is עֲנֵנוּ אֱלָהָא דְמֵאִיר עֲנֵנוּ and not אלקא דרבי מאיר.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Chacham Ovadia Yosef (in Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim) pg. 17 and Halichot Olam 8: pg 53), Rav Chaim Palagi (Shu&amp;quot;t Lev Chaim 2:160), Sdei Chemed Maarechet Eretz Yisrael: 6 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Sometimes, in the paragraph of אָתָאנוּ לְחַלּוֹת פָּנֶיךָ people mispronounce the words כַּפָּרָה and בַּצָּרָה to fit the tune by emphasizing the wrong syllable. It is proper to avoid doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim ) pg. 18 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# In Kaddish Taanu Vtitatru at the end of Selichot during aseret yemey teshuva, some say עושה השלום instead of עושה שלום, while others do not.&amp;lt;ref&gt;Kaf HaChayim on Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 56.38.1 writes that there&#039;s source to say hashalom in kaddish even during aseret yemey teshuva. But it is proper to change it for kaddish of titkabel after shemona esrei since it is in place of chazarat hashatz. Ahavat Shalom (Luach Dinim p. 120) quotes that this is also the view of Rav Chaim Palagi 13:61 and Rabbi Eliyahu Mani that we never say oseh hashalom in kaddish. Derech Eretz OC (Miluyim fnt. 91 n. 2) writes that the Syrian custom is to say oseh hashalom for kaddish titakabel at arvit and kaddish taanu vtitatru after selichot. They quote this from Rabbi Yitzchak Zifrani and Rabbi Yitzchak Shehibar. Moroccan Machzor (Machzor Avotanu) also has oseh hashalom for aseret yemey teshuva in selichot, as does Selichot Siddur Kavanat Halev. However, Machzor Bet Yakov (Syrian) does not have oseh hashalom on aseret yemey teshuva for selichot. &amp;lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Selichot Without a Minyan===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>YitzchakSultan1: /* Women */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Women&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====Women====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====Women====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Women are not obligated to recite Selichot, as it is only a [[Minhag]]. If they choose to, they must recite Birkot HaTorah first (especially if they are Sephardi).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Halichot Beitah 7:2, Yalkut Yosef (Otzar Dinim leIshah ulaBat 7:6), Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 59), Nitei Gavriel (Hilchot Rosh HaShana 10:16*), Piskei Shlomo (vol. 4 page 137). See Rav Avraham Yosef&amp;#039;s opening comments [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL7pjgYQhLA here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Women are not obligated to recite Selichot, as it is only a [[Minhag]]. If they choose to, they must recite Birkot HaTorah first (especially if they are Sephardi).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Halichot Beitah 7:2, Yalkut Yosef (Otzar Dinim leIshah ulaBat 7:6), Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 59), Nitei Gavriel (Hilchot Rosh HaShana 10:16*), Piskei Shlomo (vol. 4 page 137). See Rav Avraham Yosef&amp;#039;s opening comments [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL7pjgYQhLA here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In some European communities, it was common for women to attend Selichot,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Magen Avraham 88:3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and, nowadays, some Ashkenazi women try to attend Selichot in the synagogue on the first night or Erev [[Rosh HaShana]] and Erev [[Yom Kippur]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nitei Gavriel (Hilchot Rosh HaShana 10:16*), Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 59), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=53004&amp;amp;st=&amp;amp;pgnum=63 Ratz KaTzvi (BeMoadei HaShana vol. 1 1:3:7 page ח)]. See Aderet Tiferet (vol. 7 page 115) about Sephardi ladies in his community.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# In some European communities, it was common for women to attend Selichot,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Magen Avraham 88:3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and, nowadays, some Ashkenazi women try to attend Selichot in the synagogue on the first night or Erev [[Rosh HaShana]] and Erev [[Yom Kippur]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46450&amp;amp;pgnum=88 &lt;/ins&gt;Nitei Gavriel (Hilchot Rosh HaShana 10:16*)&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/ins&gt;, Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 59), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=53004&amp;amp;st=&amp;amp;pgnum=63 Ratz KaTzvi (BeMoadei HaShana vol. 1 1:3:7 page ח)]. See Aderet Tiferet (vol. 7 page 115) about Sephardi ladies in his community.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====Children====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====Children====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#One should try to initiate his sons in the [[Minhag]] of reciting Selichot but without causing them distress. Since these are auspicious days for prayer, one should at least train them to recite the prayers themselves, if not early in the morning/late at night. Some say Ashkenazim should ensure to bring them on the first night in any case.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 60)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#One should try to initiate his sons in the [[Minhag]] of reciting Selichot but without causing them distress. Since these are auspicious days for prayer, one should at least train them to recite the prayers themselves, if not early in the morning/late at night. Some say Ashkenazim should ensure to bring them on the first night in any case.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mekadesh Yisrael (Yamim Noraim, Selichot 60)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Bchernigoff: Edited grammar</title>
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		<updated>2024-08-09T23:12:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Edited grammar&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Selichot.jpg|300px|right]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Selichot.jpg|300px|right]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The month of Elul is a time for personal reflection and preparation for the Yamim Noraim (High Holy Days). It is a time to repent for one&amp;#039;s sins, to make amends with others, and to focus on one&amp;#039;s relationship with God. There are many practices that are traditionally &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;done &lt;/del&gt;during Elul, such as: Selichot (additional supplications each morning), &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;recite &lt;/del&gt;L&amp;#039;dovid Hashem Ori, and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;blow &lt;/del&gt;the shofar.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The month of Elul is a time for personal reflection and preparation for the Yamim Noraim (High Holy Days). It is a time to repent for one&amp;#039;s sins, to make amends with others, and to focus on one&amp;#039;s relationship with God. There are many practices that are traditionally &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;observed &lt;/ins&gt;during Elul, such as: Selichot (additional supplications &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;said &lt;/ins&gt;each morning), &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the recitation of &lt;/ins&gt;L&amp;#039;dovid Hashem Ori &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(Tehillim 27)&lt;/ins&gt;, and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the blowing of &lt;/ins&gt;the shofar. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Selichot==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Selichot==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===When to Start Reciting Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===When to Start Reciting Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The Sephardic minhag is to begin reciting [[Selichot]] from the day after [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 581:1&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The Sephardic minhag is to begin reciting [[Selichot]] from the day after [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 581:1&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Rosh ([[Rosh Hashana]] 4:14) writes that a number of [[Geonim]] had the minhag of saying [[Selichot]] during the [[Aseret Yemei Teshuva]], while other places said them from [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul]] because that is when Moshe was on Har Sinai receiving the second Luchot. These were days of prayer and begging for mercy for the Jewish people, concluding with Yom Kippur as the day of atonement. Tur Orach Chaim 581 notes that there are three different traditions and adds that the Ashkenaz tradition is to begin on the Saturday Night prior to Rosh Hashanah when Rosh HaShanah begins on Thursday or [[Shabbat]]. If it begins on Monday or Tuesday, [[Selichot]] begin on the Sunday prior to that. While the Rambam ([[Teshuva]] 3:4) follows the minhag of the Geonim, Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 581:1 writes that the Sephardic minhag is to begin reciting [[Selichot]] from [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul]]. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Rosh ([[Rosh Hashana]] 4:14) writes that a number of [[Geonim]] had the minhag of saying [[Selichot]] during the [[Aseret Yemei Teshuva]], while other places said them from [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;|Elul,&lt;/ins&gt;]] because that is when Moshe was on Har Sinai receiving the second Luchot. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/ins&gt;These were days of prayer and begging for mercy for the Jewish people, concluding with Yom Kippur as the day of atonement. Tur Orach Chaim 581 notes that there are three different traditions and adds that the Ashkenaz tradition is to begin on the Saturday Night prior to Rosh Hashanah when Rosh HaShanah begins on Thursday or [[Shabbat]]. If it begins on Monday or Tuesday, [[Selichot]] begin on the Sunday prior to that. While the Rambam ([[Teshuva]] 3:4) follows the minhag of the Geonim, Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 581:1 writes that the Sephardic minhag is to begin reciting [[Selichot]] from [[Rosh Chodesh]] [[Elul]]. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:1, Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 9, Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim page 1 agree that such is the Sephardic minhag.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:1, Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 9, Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim page 1 agree that such is the Sephardic minhag.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* This is also quoted by the Arizal in Shaar Hakavanot 89:4, Ravyah 542, Machzor Vitri 323, Kol Bo 65. Meiri Chibur Hateshuva Page 207 says this is what should be done, and adds that [[selichot]] is a partial fulfillment of learning the laws of each [[holidays]] 30 days prior.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*This is also quoted by the Arizal in Shaar Hakavanot 89:4, Ravyah 542, Machzor Vitri 323, Kol Bo 65. Meiri Chibur Hateshuva Page 207 says this is what should be done, and adds that [[selichot]] is a partial fulfillment of learning the laws of each [[holidays]] 30 days prior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Magen Avraham 581:2 explains that Shulchan Aruch means from after [[Rosh Chodesh]] and not on [[Rosh Chodesh]] itself. Mishna Brura 581:1 and Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim pg. 2) agree.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*Magen Avraham 581:2 explains that Shulchan Aruch means from after [[Rosh Chodesh]] and not on [[Rosh Chodesh]] itself. Mishna Brura 581:1 and Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim pg. 2) agree.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* see also Sefer HaManhig Hilchot [[Rosh Hashana]] 1:25 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*see also Sefer HaManhig Hilchot [[Rosh Hashana]] 1:25&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The Ashkenazic custom is to start reciting [[Selichot]] from the Sunday before [[Rosh HaShana]], unless [[Rosh HaShana]] falls out on Monday or Tuesday, in which case, Ashkenazim start from two Sundays before [[Rosh HaShana]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See previous footnote. Rama Orach Chaim 581:1 writes that the minhag Ashekenaz is to start saying [[Selichot]] from the Sunday before [[Rosh HaShana]] unless [[Rosh HaShana]] falls out on Monday or Tuesday, in which case, Ashkenazim start from two Sundays before [[Rosh HaShana]]. Mishna Brurah 581:6 explains that the reason that the preparation is no less than four days is because some had the custom to fast for ten days prior to [[Yom Kippur]], however, since one can’t fast on the two days of Rosh Hashana, [[Shabbat]] Shuvah, or Erev [[Yom Kippur]], one had to begin fasting four days prior to [[Rosh HaShana]] (see there for other reasons). &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# The Ashkenazic custom is to start reciting [[Selichot]] from the Sunday before [[Rosh HaShana]], unless [[Rosh HaShana]] falls out on Monday or Tuesday, in which case, Ashkenazim start from two Sundays before [[Rosh HaShana]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See previous footnote. Rama Orach Chaim 581:1 writes that the minhag Ashekenaz is to start saying [[Selichot]] from the Sunday before [[Rosh HaShana]] unless [[Rosh HaShana]] falls out on Monday or Tuesday, in which case, Ashkenazim start from two Sundays before [[Rosh HaShana]]. Mishna Brurah 581:6 explains that the reason that the preparation is no less than four days is because some had the custom to fast for ten days prior to [[Yom Kippur]], however, since one can’t fast on the two days of Rosh Hashana, [[Shabbat]] Shuvah, or Erev [[Yom Kippur]], one had to begin fasting four days prior to [[Rosh HaShana]] (see there for other reasons). &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;There are no &lt;/del&gt;[[Selichot]] on [[Shabbat]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:2 writes that there are no [[Selichot]] on [[Shabbat]]. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# [[Selichot]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are not recited &lt;/ins&gt;on [[Shabbat]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:2 writes that there are no [[Selichot]] on [[Shabbat]]. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Who is Obligated in Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Who is Obligated in Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the other hand, see Darkei Moshe O.C. 565:4 where he cites the opinion of the Sefer Haminhagim that even an individual can recite them. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but one can read the Yud Gimmel middot (13 attributes) with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 565:5 based on Shu&amp;quot;t Harashba 1:211, Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Shu&amp;quot;t Yechave Daat 1:47 and Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim 27), Yalkut Yosef Tefilla 2: page 131 [[http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 Halacha Yomit]], Chida in Machazik Beracha 131:6, Ben Ish Chai (Shanah Aleph, Parashat Ki Tisa Halacha 9), Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* On the other hand, see Darkei Moshe O.C. 565:4 where he cites the opinion of the Sefer Haminhagim that even an individual can recite them. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but one can read the Yud Gimmel middot (13 attributes) with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 565:5 based on Shu&amp;quot;t Harashba 1:211, Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Shu&amp;quot;t Yechave Daat 1:47 and Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim 27), Yalkut Yosef Tefilla 2: page 131 [[http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 Halacha Yomit]], Chida in Machazik Beracha 131:6, Ben Ish Chai (Shanah Aleph, Parashat Ki Tisa Halacha 9), Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9 &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Iggerot Moshe YD 3:21 allows them to be recited without a [[minyan]] as long you use any melody other than the one used for [[prayer]] and doesn&amp;#039;t require that it be the same cantillation as the torah.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Iggerot Moshe YD 3:21 allows them to be recited without a [[minyan]] as long you use any melody other than the one used for [[prayer]] and doesn&amp;#039;t require that it be the same cantillation as the torah.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* see also [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/963227/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-saying-13-middos-harachamim-b-yechidus/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In such a scenario one can conclude with the word ונקה, even though that is technically in the middle of the actual pasuk in the Torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim pg. 30 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Others argue that it should be omitted entirely.&amp;lt;Ref&amp;gt;Taz 565:5. This is the practice of [&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[Chabadhttps&lt;/del&gt;://shulchanaruchharav.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/13-attributes-Saying-with-Taamim-without-Minyan-Website.pdf|Chabad]&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;] &lt;/del&gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* see also [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/963227/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-saying-13-middos-harachamim-b-yechidus/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In such a scenario one can conclude with the word ונקה, even though that is technically in the middle of the actual pasuk in the Torah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Chazon Ovadia Yamim Noraim pg. 30 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Others argue that it should be omitted entirely.&amp;lt;Ref&amp;gt;Taz 565:5. This is the practice of [&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;https&lt;/ins&gt;://shulchanaruchharav.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/13-attributes-Saying-with-Taamim-without-Minyan-Website.pdf| Chabad]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Without a [[minyan]], one cannot recite the paragraphs that are in Aramaic (such as רַחֲמָנָא אִדְכַּר לָן..., דְּעָנֵי לַעֲנִיֵּי. עֲנֵינָן..., מַחֵי וּמַסֵּי.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eliya Rabba 581:9 writes that we do not recite the prayers that are in Aramaic without a Minyan because the angels do not understand Aramaic (see Gemara Shabbat 12b). Mateh Efraim 581:21, Yabia Omer 10:footnotes to Rav Pealim OC 3:41, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9, Mishna Brura 581:4, Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim pg. 11) and [http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2135 Halachayomit]all agree &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Without a [[minyan]], one cannot recite the paragraphs that are in Aramaic (such as רַחֲמָנָא אִדְכַּר לָן..., דְּעָנֵי לַעֲנִיֵּי. עֲנֵינָן..., מַחֵי וּמַסֵּי.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eliya Rabba 581:9 writes that we do not recite the prayers that are in Aramaic without a Minyan because the angels do not understand Aramaic (see Gemara Shabbat 12b). Mateh Efraim 581:21, Yabia Omer 10:footnotes to Rav Pealim OC 3:41, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 128:9, Mishna Brura 581:4, Chazon Ovadia (Yamim Noraim pg. 11) and [http://halachayomit.co.il/en/default.aspx?HalachaID=2135 Halachayomit]all agree &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On the other hand, Rav Mordechai Lebhar writes (Magen Avot, Orach Chaim 581:1) that in Morocco and Djerba the Aramaic portions were not skipped; however, Amen was said instead of &amp;quot;Bedil Vayaavor.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On the other hand, Rav Mordechai Lebhar writes (Magen Avot, Orach Chaim 581:1) that in Morocco and Djerba the Aramaic portions were not skipped; however, Amen was said instead of &amp;quot;Bedil Vayaavor.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>YitzchakSultan1 at 22:15, 11 July 2023</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Selichot.jpg|300px|right]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[File:Selichot.jpg|300px|right]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The month of Elul is a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;month in which everyone has &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;opportunity &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;prepare himself &lt;/del&gt;for &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the day of Judgement &lt;/del&gt;and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the new year&lt;/del&gt;. There are &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;various &lt;/del&gt;practices that &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;we do &lt;/del&gt;during &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this month in order to further that goal&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The month of Elul is a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;time for personal reflection and preparation for &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Yamim Noraim (High Holy Days). It is a time &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;repent &lt;/ins&gt;for &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;one&amp;#039;s sins, to make amends with others, &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to focus on one&amp;#039;s relationship with God&lt;/ins&gt;. There are &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;many &lt;/ins&gt;practices that &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are traditionally done &lt;/ins&gt;during &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Elul, such as: Selichot (additional supplications each morning), recite L&amp;#039;dovid Hashem Ori, and blow the shofar&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Selichot==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Selichot==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===When to Start Reciting Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===When to Start Reciting Selichot===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Other practices==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Other practices==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Some pious individuals have the minhag of checking their [[Tefillin]] and [[Mezuzot]] during [[Elul]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mateh Efraim 581:10 writes that as part of being introspective during [[Elul]], some pious individuals check their [[Tefillin]] and [[Mezuzot]] during [[Elul]]. He concludes that it is a good minhag. This is quoted by the Kitzur S”A 128:3, Chazon Ovadyah (p. 26), and Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 18. Also see Yechave Daat 1:49. It is noteworthy that S”A 39:10 rules that [[Tefillin]] that were established as being kosher do not have to be checked if they are used frequently. Additionally, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;S”A &lt;/del&gt;Y.D. 291:1 rules that [[Mezuzot]] should be checked twice every seven years. see also  [https://itorah.com/lecture/audio/rabbi-eli-mansour/elul-wishing-le-shana-toba-in-written-correspondence-checking-tefillin-and-mezuzot/356/6 Rabbi Eli Mansour&amp;#039;s Daily Halacha] and [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/763468/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-checking-tefillin-and-mezuzos/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Some pious individuals have the minhag of checking their [[Tefillin]] and [[Mezuzot]] during [[Elul]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mateh Efraim 581:10 writes that as part of being introspective during [[Elul]], some pious individuals check their [[Tefillin]] and [[Mezuzot]] during [[Elul]]. He concludes that it is a good minhag. This is quoted by the Kitzur S”A 128:3, Chazon Ovadyah (p. 26), and Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 18. Also see Yechave Daat 1:49. It is noteworthy that S”A 39:10 rules that [[Tefillin]] that were established as being kosher do not have to be checked if they are used frequently. Additionally, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Shulchan Aruch &lt;/ins&gt;Y.D. 291:1 rules that [[Mezuzot]] should be checked twice every seven years. see also  [https://itorah.com/lecture/audio/rabbi-eli-mansour/elul-wishing-le-shana-toba-in-written-correspondence-checking-tefillin-and-mezuzot/356/6 Rabbi Eli Mansour&amp;#039;s Daily Halacha] and [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/763468/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-checking-tefillin-and-mezuzos/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Getting Married during Elul}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Getting Married during Elul}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====The Latest Time for Selichot====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;====The Latest Time for Selichot====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Preferably, [[Selichot]] should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mishna Brurah (Introduction to 581), Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:5 write that preferably, [[Selichot]] should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but if one delayed one can say it after [[Olot HaShachar]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ma&amp;#039;amar Mordechai 34:5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Those who are unable to rise early to say [[Selichot]], should nonetheless say [[Selichot]], either in the morning before [[Shacharit]] or even in the afternoon before [[Mincha]]. The morning is better than the afternoon&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 6-7), Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 10, Yechave Daat 1:46. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;see &lt;/del&gt;[https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/966109/rabbi-chaim-jachter/selihot-before-minha/ Rabbi Chaim Jachter ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;# Preferably, [[Selichot]] should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mishna Brurah (Introduction to 581), Maamar Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:5 write that preferably, [[Selichot]] should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14215&amp;amp;pgnum=10 Imrei Noam of Gra on Brachot 3a s.v. yesh omrim] interprets the gemara that the shifts of the night (heb. אשומורות הלילה; trans. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;ashmurot haleyla&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) do not end at olot like the Tosfot and Magen Avraham understood. Rather they end at Netz like the Rambam. See Rav Moshe Feinstein (2:105) who relates the time of selichot to the shifts of the night&lt;/ins&gt;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but if one delayed one can say it after [[Olot HaShachar]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ma&amp;#039;amar Mordechai 34:5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Those who are unable to rise early to say [[Selichot]], should nonetheless say [[Selichot]], either in the morning before [[Shacharit]] or even in the afternoon before [[Mincha]]. The morning is better than the afternoon&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 6-7), Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 10, Yechave Daat 1:46. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;See &lt;/ins&gt;[https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/966109/rabbi-chaim-jachter/selihot-before-minha/ Rabbi Chaim Jachter]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#The minhag is to say selichot before Shacharit even when it is after Olot even though Tadir would demand that it is said afterwards.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mekor Neeman 1:520 explains that we say selichot first so that it is as close to Olot as possible. Rivevot Efraim 8:234:6 notes that seemingly we should say shacharit first but such is the minhag.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#The minhag is to say selichot before Shacharit even when it is after Olot even though Tadir would demand that it is said afterwards.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mekor Neeman 1:520 explains that we say selichot first so that it is as close to Olot as possible. Rivevot Efraim 8:234:6 notes that seemingly we should say shacharit first but such is the minhag.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#If someone missed selichot and could either daven with a minyan or say selichot first and then daven by himself he should daven with the minyan and then say selichot by himself.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rivevot Efraim 8:234:6&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;#If someone missed selichot and could either daven with a minyan or say selichot first and then daven by himself he should daven with the minyan and then say selichot by himself.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rivevot Efraim 8:234:6&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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