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	#Many poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 181, 307:31), Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5, Avnei Yakar Shabbat p. 545 </ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. </ref>		#Many poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 181, 307:31), Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5, Avnei Yakar Shabbat p. 545. Halacha Brurah quotes many poskim who are lenient on this question including Betzel Chachma 4:79, Chazon Ovadia (v. 3 p. 427), Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Shulchan Shlomo 307:22:2), Or Letzion 1:14, Shevet Halevi 3:172, Yashiv Moshe p. 24 quoting Rav Elyashiv. </ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. </ref>
	#Some poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to have a non-Jew who is in a location where it is not Shabbat to do melacha for him since it isn't Shabbat where the non-Jew is going to do the melacha. The Jew must make these instructions before it is his Shabbat.<ref>Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 182, 307:31), Avnei Yakar (Shabbat p. 545), Sh"t Zera Yakov OC 35. Zera Yakov quotes Shraga Hameir 2:65 and Chelkat Yakov 3:27-28 as being lenient.</ref> However, other poskim forbid this since when the melacha is occurring it is Shabbat for the Jew.<ref>Hilchot Chag B'chag (34:2, v. 2 p. 595), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question.</ref>		#Some poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to have a non-Jew who is in a location where it is not Shabbat to do melacha for him since it isn't Shabbat where the non-Jew is going to do the melacha. The Jew must make these instructions before it is his Shabbat.<ref>Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 182, 307:31), Avnei Yakar (Shabbat p. 545), Sh"t Zera Yakov OC 35. Zera Yakov quotes Shraga Hameir 2:65 and Chelkat Yakov 3:27-28 as being lenient. Halacha Brurah quotes Chazon Ovadia v. 3 p. 428, Minchat Shlomo 1:19:3 s.v. umishum, Chelkat Yakov OC 85, and Shraga Hameir 4:112 as lenient on this question.</ref> However, other poskim forbid this since when the melacha is occurring it is Shabbat for the Jew.<ref>Hilchot Chag B'chag (34:2, v. 2 p. 595), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question.</ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

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	#Many poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5, Avnei Yakar Shabbat p. 545 </ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. </ref>		#Many poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 181, 307:31), Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5, Avnei Yakar Shabbat p. 545 </ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. </ref>
	#Some poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to have a non-Jew who is in a location where it is not Shabbat to do melacha for him since it isn't Shabbat where the non-Jew is going to do the melacha. The Jew must make these instructions before it is his Shabbat.<ref>Avnei Yakar (Shabbat p. 545), Sh"t Zera Yakov OC 35. Zera Yakov quotes Shraga Hameir 2:65 and Chelkat Yakov 3:27-28 as being lenient.</ref> However, other poskim forbid this since when the melacha is occurring it is Shabbat for the Jew.<ref>Hilchot Chag B'chag (34:2, v. 2 p. 595), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question.</ref>		#Some poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to have a non-Jew who is in a location where it is not Shabbat to do melacha for him since it isn't Shabbat where the non-Jew is going to do the melacha. The Jew must make these instructions before it is his Shabbat.<ref>Halacha Brurah (Amira Lnochri v. 1 p. 182, 307:31), Avnei Yakar (Shabbat p. 545), Sh"t Zera Yakov OC 35. Zera Yakov quotes Shraga Hameir 2:65 and Chelkat Yakov 3:27-28 as being lenient.</ref> However, other poskim forbid this since when the melacha is occurring it is Shabbat for the Jew.<ref>Hilchot Chag B'chag (34:2, v. 2 p. 595), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question.</ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

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	#~~Some say~~ that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. He quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question. </ref>		#Many poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5, Avnei Yakar Shabbat p. 545 </ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. </ref>
			#Some poskim hold that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to have a non-Jew who is in a location where it is not Shabbat to do melacha for him since it isn't Shabbat where the non-Jew is going to do the melacha. The Jew must make these instructions before it is his Shabbat.<ref>Avnei Yakar (Shabbat p. 545), Sh"t Zera Yakov OC 35. Zera Yakov quotes Shraga Hameir 2:65 and Chelkat Yakov 3:27-28 as being lenient.</ref> However, other poskim forbid this since when the melacha is occurring it is Shabbat for the Jew.<ref>Hilchot Chag B'chag (34:2, v. 2 p. 595), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question.</ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

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	#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. He quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question. </ref>		#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106, Yashiv Yitzchak 3:5</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. He quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question. </ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

YitzchakSultan1: /* Different Time Zones */

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	#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency. </ref>		#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency of the Chelkat Yakov. He explains that the fact that the non-Jew is working on Shabbat where the non-Jew is, is still called a desecration of Shabbat (see Shulchan Aruch O.C. 298) and a Jew may not cause that to occur. He quotes the Betzel Chachma 3:125 writes that it is proper to be strict about this question. </ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

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	#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, if a Jew in California ~~calls~~ a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York.<ref>Yalkut Yosef Shabbat ~~5752~~ v. 2 p. 243 307:3:9</ref>		#Some say that it is permitted for a Jew who is in a location where it isn't Shabbat to ask a non-Jew who is in a location where it is Shabbat to do melacha for them since we follow the location of the Jew. This is relevant to a Jew in Israel asking a non-Jew in America to do melacha after Shabbat for the next 7 hours. Alternatively, this applies to a Jew in California calling a non-Jew in New York before Shabbat starts in California but it already started in New York. Alternatively, the same applies to a Jew in New York asking a non-Jew in Philippines to do melacha when it is Friday in New York and Shabbat there.<ref>Yalkut Yosef (5752 edition, Shabbat v. 2 p. 243, 307:3:9), [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102)] quoting Chelkat Yakov 3:106</ref> However, some disagree and forbid this.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=49108&pgnum=102 Rav Yitzchak Zilberman (Melachim Umanayich p. 102 fnt. 15)] questions this leniency. </ref>

	==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==		==Requesting one non-Jew to tell another==

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	#It’s permitted to hint to a goy not in a commanding way like “it’s too dark in here”, or “I can’t read with this lighting”. One can benefit from the goy’s action only if beforehand one could have read under that light with difficulty (the room was dimly lit).<ref>Mishna Brurah 307:76, Magen Avraham, and Knesset Hagedolah in name of the Maharmat. Pri Megadim explains that it’s not real benefit since one could have read beforehand anyway and the light is just improved. This is codified in 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1 pg 66). </ref>		#It’s permitted to hint to a goy not in a commanding way like “it’s too dark in here”, or “I can’t read with this lighting”. One can benefit from the goy’s action only if beforehand one could have read under that light with difficulty (the room was dimly lit).<ref>Mishna Brurah 307:76, Magen Avraham, and Knesset Hagedolah in name of the Maharmat. Pri Megadim explains that it’s not real benefit since one could have read beforehand anyway and the light is just improved. This is codified in 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1 pg 66). </ref>
	#If a non-Jew turns on a light (on his own initiative) in a room which was totally dark and one was unable to read, it’s nonetheless forbidden for the Jew to benefit from the light that the non-Jew turned on.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>		#If a non-Jew turns on a light (on his own initiative) in a room which was totally dark and one was unable to read, it’s nonetheless forbidden for the Jew to benefit from the light that the non-Jew turned on.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>
	#One may benefit from the action of a non-Jew which improved a situation but didn’t altogether make something unusable into something useable. For example, it’s permissible to benefit if a non-Jew tightens a already working but wobbly doorknob, chair, or table.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 67) </ref>		#One may benefit from the action of a non-Jew which improved a situation but didn’t altogether make something unusable into something useable. For example, it’s permissible to benefit if a non-Jew tightens an already working but wobbly doorknob, chair, or table.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 67) </ref>
	#If, on [[Shabbat]], a non-Jew cleaned clothes which were soiled or stained (on his own initiative) it’s forbidden to benefit from the cleaned clothing on [[Shabbat]].<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>		#If, on [[Shabbat]], a non-Jew cleaned clothes which were soiled or stained (on his own initiative) it’s forbidden to benefit from the cleaned clothing on [[Shabbat]].<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>
	#If, on [[Shabbat]], the fire underneath the blech went out, and the non-Jew relit the fire (on his own initiative) it’s forbidden to benefit from the warmed food on [[Shabbat]].<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>		#If, on [[Shabbat]], the fire underneath the blech went out, and the non-Jew relit the fire (on his own initiative) it’s forbidden to benefit from the warmed food on [[Shabbat]].<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 65) </ref>
	#Removing an obstacle or annoyance is not considered causing direct benefit and so it’s permissible to benefit from the action of a non-Jew who turned off a light or an alarm when one wanted to go to sleep.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 66) </ref> Additionally it’s permissible to benefit from the act of a non-Jew who turns off the headlights to a car (which were left on).		#Removing an obstacle or annoyance is not considered causing direct benefit and so it’s permissible to benefit from the action of a non-Jew who turned off a light or an alarm when one wanted to go to sleep.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 66) </ref> Additionally it’s permissible to benefit from the act of a non-Jew who turns off the headlights to a car (which were left on).
	#One may benefit from the action of a non-Jew which improved a situation but didn’t altogether make something unusable into something useable. For example, it’s permissible to benefit if a non-Jew tightens a already working but wobbly doorknob, chair, or table.<ref>39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat; vol 1, pg 69) </ref>

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	#It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to do an activity on Shabbat that is for after Shabbat even it is with non-melacha activities since a Jew that would certainly be forbidden to do so as it is preparing ([[hachana]]) for after Shabbat. For example, one may not ask a non-Jew to clean dishes on Shabbat for after Shabbat.<ref>Melachim Emuncha (Rabbi Zilberstein, 1:11, p. 40) concludes with many proofs that it is forbidden to do [[hachana]] through amirah lenochri. The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, v. 1 fnt. 314) discusses if the entire concept of amirah lenochri only applies to melachot and not to the neglect of positive mitzvot of Shabbat. His conclusion is unclear and seems to be strict. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21547&st=&pgnum=205 Mechezeh Eliyahu 63:35 p. 180] cites the Magen Avraham 321:7 who implies clearly that there is amirah lenochri for [[hachana]], while the Eliyah Rabba 252:12 clearly seems to permit it, he also cites a Pri Megadim who seems to be in doubt on the matter, however, his conclusion is that it is forbidden based on numerous Mishna Brurah's unless there is a financial loss.</ref>		#It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to do an activity on Shabbat that is for after Shabbat even it is with non-melacha activities since a Jew that would certainly be forbidden to do so as it is preparing ([[hachana]]) for after Shabbat. For example, one may not ask a non-Jew to clean dishes on Shabbat for after Shabbat.<ref>Melachim Emuncha (Rabbi Zilberstein, 1:11, p. 40) concludes with many proofs that it is forbidden to do [[hachana]] through amirah lenochri. The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, v. 1 fnt. 314) discusses if the entire concept of amirah lenochri only applies to melachot and not to the neglect of positive mitzvot of Shabbat. His conclusion is unclear and seems to be strict. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21547&st=&pgnum=205 Mechezeh Eliyahu 63:35 p. 180] cites the Magen Avraham 321:7 who implies clearly that there is amirah lenochri for [[hachana]], while the Eliyah Rabba 252:12 clearly seems to permit it, he also cites a Pri Megadim who seems to be in doubt on the matter, however, his conclusion is that it is forbidden based on numerous Mishna Brurah's unless there is a financial loss. Mishna Brurah 319:62 is clear that there is amira lenochri for hachana.</ref>
	##Practically, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish custodian in shul to clean up from Seudat Shelishit while it is still Shabbat since it is preparing. Similarly, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish caterer clean up from an event on Shabbat since it is preparing for after Shabbat. However, if they prefer to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to afterwards it is permitted to let them do so.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/874130/rabbi-yaakov-b-neuburger/amira-lnachri-and-pikuach-nefesh-shiur-6/ Rabbi Neuberger in Amirah Lnachri Shiur 6 (min 32-6)] says that generally it is forbidden because of amirah lenochri on hachana. However, if the non-Jew is working on his own schedule and he prefers to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to after Shabbat that is permitted. Nonetheless, on a regular basis it is a problem to let the non-Jew clean up on Shabbat is a problem since it is a zilzul Shabbat.</ref>		##Practically, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish custodian in shul to clean up from Seudat Shelishit while it is still Shabbat since it is preparing. Similarly, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish caterer clean up from an event on Shabbat since it is preparing for after Shabbat. However, if they prefer to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to afterwards it is permitted to let them do so.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/874130/rabbi-yaakov-b-neuburger/amira-lnachri-and-pikuach-nefesh-shiur-6/ Rabbi Neuberger in Amirah Lnachri Shiur 6 (min 32-6)] says that generally it is forbidden because of amirah lenochri on hachana. However, if the non-Jew is working on his own schedule and he prefers to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to after Shabbat that is permitted. Nonetheless, on a regular basis it is a problem to let the non-Jew clean up on Shabbat is a problem since it is a zilzul Shabbat.</ref>

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	#It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to do an activity on Shabbat that is for after Shabbat even it is with non-melacha activities since a Jew that would certainly be forbidden to do so as it is preparing ([[hachana]]) for after Shabbat. For example, one may not ask a non-Jew to clean dishes on Shabbat for after Shabbat.<ref>Melachim Emuncha (Rabbi Zilberstein, 1:11, p. 40) concludes with many proofs that it is forbidden to do [[hachana]] through amirah lenochri. The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, v. 1 fnt. 314) discusses if the entire concept of amirah lenochri only applies to melachot and not to the neglect of positive mitzvot of Shabbat. His conclusion is unclear and seems to be strict. [www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21547&st=&pgnum=205 Mechezeh Eliyahu 63:35 p. 180] cites the Magen Avraham 321:7 who implies clearly that there is amirah lenochri for [[hachana]], while the Eliyah Rabba 252:12 clearly seems to permit it, he also cites a Pri Megadim who seems to be in doubt on the matter, however, his conclusion is that it is forbidden based on numerous Mishna Brurah's unless there is a financial loss.</ref>		#It is forbidden to ask a non-Jew to do an activity on Shabbat that is for after Shabbat even it is with non-melacha activities since a Jew that would certainly be forbidden to do so as it is preparing ([[hachana]]) for after Shabbat. For example, one may not ask a non-Jew to clean dishes on Shabbat for after Shabbat.<ref>Melachim Emuncha (Rabbi Zilberstein, 1:11, p. 40) concludes with many proofs that it is forbidden to do [[hachana]] through amirah lenochri. The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, v. 1 fnt. 314) discusses if the entire concept of amirah lenochri only applies to melachot and not to the neglect of positive mitzvot of Shabbat. His conclusion is unclear and seems to be strict. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21547&st=&pgnum=205 Mechezeh Eliyahu 63:35 p. 180] cites the Magen Avraham 321:7 who implies clearly that there is amirah lenochri for [[hachana]], while the Eliyah Rabba 252:12 clearly seems to permit it, he also cites a Pri Megadim who seems to be in doubt on the matter, however, his conclusion is that it is forbidden based on numerous Mishna Brurah's unless there is a financial loss.</ref>
	##Practically, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish custodian in shul to clean up from Seudat Shelishit while it is still Shabbat since it is preparing. Similarly, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish caterer clean up from an event on Shabbat since it is preparing for after Shabbat. However, if they prefer to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to afterwards it is permitted to let them do so.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/874130/rabbi-yaakov-b-neuburger/amira-lnachri-and-pikuach-nefesh-shiur-6/ Rabbi Neuberger in Amirah Lnachri Shiur 6 (min 32-6)] says that generally it is forbidden because of amirah lenochri on hachana. However, if the non-Jew is working on his own schedule and he prefers to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to after Shabbat that is permitted. Nonetheless, on a regular basis it is a problem to let the non-Jew clean up on Shabbat is a problem since it is a zilzul Shabbat.</ref>		##Practically, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish custodian in shul to clean up from Seudat Shelishit while it is still Shabbat since it is preparing. Similarly, it is forbidden to ask a non-Jewish caterer clean up from an event on Shabbat since it is preparing for after Shabbat. However, if they prefer to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to afterwards it is permitted to let them do so.<ref>[http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/874130/rabbi-yaakov-b-neuburger/amira-lnachri-and-pikuach-nefesh-shiur-6/ Rabbi Neuberger in Amirah Lnachri Shiur 6 (min 32-6)] says that generally it is forbidden because of amirah lenochri on hachana. However, if the non-Jew is working on his own schedule and he prefers to do the cleanup on Shabbat as opposed to after Shabbat that is permitted. Nonetheless, on a regular basis it is a problem to let the non-Jew clean up on Shabbat is a problem since it is a zilzul Shabbat.</ref>